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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#201 » by Eating a Book » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:05 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:
Inception wrote:Most of the best players ever go their entire careers without missing a significant stretch of games.


Since when? The greatest player of all time missed almost an entire season.


Rasho has not missed an entire season.

Rasho does not miss games. Games miss Rasho.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#202 » by LittleOzzy » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:14 pm

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Inception wrote:Most of the best players ever go their entire careers without missing a significant stretch of games.


Since when? The greatest player of all time missed almost an entire season.


Rasho has not missed an entire season.

Rasho does not miss games. Games miss Rasho.


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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#203 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:20 pm

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Inception wrote:I haven't seen anyone suggest that it's serious. People are just pointing out that Davis seems to be injury prone and based on his history thus far, that seems to be a fair assumption.


How is breaking your wrist being injury prone? How is tweaking your knee once in your life as far as we know being injury prone?


2 injuries in less than 1 yr could lead someone to believe that said person is prone to injuries imo. Its a fair assumption. I would hold off on giving him that title ri now buh I am lil worried.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#204 » by Peteros » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:39 pm

Off all the bad luck and misfortunes that have happened to this organization over the years, I've come to the conclusion that this organization is jinxed.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#205 » by RocLaFamilia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:42 pm

Peteros wrote:Off all the bad luck and misfortunes that have happened to this organization over the years, I've come to the conclusion that this organization is jinxed.


You know what your right, I am going to become a Clippers fan now, they get way more luck than the unlucky Raptors... :lol:
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#206 » by RonaldArtest » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:54 pm

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Peteros wrote:Off all the bad luck and misfortunes that have happened to this organization over the years, I've come to the conclusion that this organization is jinxed.


You know what your right, I am going to become a Clippers fan now, they get way more luck than the unlucky Raptors... :lol:

The Clips are finally going to break out this year I think. A healthy Griffin, adding Bledsoe and Aminu through the draft, Kaman when healthy has proved to be top-25 or so as far as big men are concerned. Gordon had a nice showing at the Worlds, and Baron is still quite the talent. Even role players like Randy Foye, Ryan Gomes and Craig Smith I like. If some of the young kids they snagged in the second round like Willie Warren and DeAndre Jordan pan out to their potential, this could be a very solid team in a few years.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#207 » by YogiStewart » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:45 pm

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Same here, tore my meniscus playing for the Varsity Blues (UofT) and was out for about 3 weeks before I started working out again. That's why I was curious to know if you can actually sprain a meniscus, figured tears were pretty much standard since we're talking about a real thin piece of cartilege. Shouldn't be too much of an issue unless it detiorates to the point of no return where the cartilege isn't separating one bone from another. But even then, microfacture surgery has gotten to the point where it'll be a normal procedure in the future.

My only issue now (age 33) is that my knee retains fluid but that's to be expected since I'm not in peak physical shape like these animals.


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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#208 » by Cassius » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:53 pm

Michael Jordan had a "Love of the Game" clause put into his contracts so he could play whenever and wherever he wants.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#209 » by A roc 23 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:05 pm

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But the Raptors strength and conditioning coach Francesco Cuzzolin is from Italy. So you could always make the substitution! :lol:
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#210 » by Lionel Messi » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:07 pm

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Lionel Messi wrote:Oh come on. This isn't high school, where there has to be a teacher around to use the gym.

What are they going to say "No playing basketball unless we're there to watch you"? That's ridiculous.

While I don't think the league has to make rules, you have a point here: they aren't in high school. They are assets of a professional organization worth millions of dollars. The S&C and development staff should be around these guys all the time. I'm not overly impressed by these guys flying all over the place all summer long with nary a second of supervision and direction and guidance by the staff of this franchise. I understand guys want to go home in the summer - sometimes for tax reasons - but who is teaching these guys about proper technique and method in their offseason workouts? Who is going through all the steps of teaching: explanation of the method, demonstrating the method, getting the player to imitate the method, correcting the imitation, and then perfect repetition?

The Raptors have shown (prior to this year) a very low level of commitment to player development and proper training. They need to really elevate that level of commitment if they want to be successful and part of that is both educating the players as to proper workouts, and also holding them accountable.


I'm all for telling them they can't ride motorcycles or any sort of dangerous vehicle. But telling them they can't play pickup basketball in the summer is just silly.
Maybe if they're just coming off of a significant injury (i.e. Greg Oden) then you don't want them participating in any unnecessary physical activity unless it's set up or approved by the team.

I also agree that our young guys need some kind of personal coach or trainer making sure they aren't forgetting any techniques or important fundamentals or even helping them improve their game. I get the feeling that most of these guys have a personal trainer anyways though, but that's just for conditioning and working on their body.

It'd be pretty damn expensive having a coach with all these young guys during the summer though, and it's not like they're training 24/7. These guys need some freedom too.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#211 » by And1Skip » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:59 pm

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I also agree that our young guys need some kind of personal coach or trainer making sure they aren't forgetting any techniques or important fundamentals or even helping them improve their game. I get the feeling that most of these guys have a personal trainer anyways though, but that's just for conditioning and working on their body.

It'd be pretty damn expensive having a coach with all these young guys during the summer though, and it's not like they're training 24/7. These guys need some freedom too.


Eric Hughes has been following the kids (or rather the kids have been following him) throughout the summer for formal workouts. That's why you see DeMar and Sonny throughout the summer tweet that they're going to these random places like Vegas (after summer league) or Oakland..they were working out with Eric. Eric is known for doing workouts with young players like Durant, and now he's the assistant coach for the Raptors, its his job to work these kids out. But he can't be with them and babysit them all the time.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#212 » by Lionel Messi » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:16 pm

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Lionel Messi wrote:
I also agree that our young guys need some kind of personal coach or trainer making sure they aren't forgetting any techniques or important fundamentals or even helping them improve their game. I get the feeling that most of these guys have a personal trainer anyways though, but that's just for conditioning and working on their body.

It'd be pretty damn expensive having a coach with all these young guys during the summer though, and it's not like they're training 24/7. These guys need some freedom too.


Eric Hughes has been following the kids (or rather the kids have been following him) throughout the summer for formal workouts. That's why you see DeMar and Sonny throughout the summer tweet that they're going to these random places like Vegas (after summer league) or Oakland..they were working out with Eric. Eric is known for doing workouts with young players like Durant, and now he's the assistant coach for the Raptors, its his job to work these kids out. But he can't be with them and babysit them all the time.


I guess that's all we can ask for really. We don't need to be babysitting these guys.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#213 » by Mattd97 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:55 pm

there are also strict rules about how much coaches can be around these kids in the offseason
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Re: Ed Davis update: Yes, he "tweaked" his knee 

Post#214 » by Riiizla » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:44 am

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Re: Ed Davis update: Yes, he "tweaked" his knee 

Post#215 » by Riiizla » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:44 am

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sump wrote:Dude I am 24 and I have more money than you will ever see in a lifetime. I don't need anything because I have everything that I want. I am just closing my account on this gay site. You guys are all internet fagz and you know it.


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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#216 » by Laowai » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:02 am

Yawn really boring if he had the injuries that Oden had I would be concerned he hasn't end of story.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#217 » by BorisDK1 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:00 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:I'm all for telling them they can't ride motorcycles or any sort of dangerous vehicle. But telling them they can't play pickup basketball in the summer is just silly.
Maybe if they're just coming off of a significant injury (i.e. Greg Oden) then you don't want them participating in any unnecessary physical activity unless it's set up or approved by the team.

I also agree that our young guys need some kind of personal coach or trainer making sure they aren't forgetting any techniques or important fundamentals or even helping them improve their game. I get the feeling that most of these guys have a personal trainer anyways though, but that's just for conditioning and working on their body.

It'd be pretty damn expensive having a coach with all these young guys during the summer though, and it's not like they're training 24/7. These guys need some freedom too.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be playing basketball in the summer: they not only shouldn't be forbidden from doing so, they probably should do so. But these kids (and that's what they are: kids, for the most part) aren't necessarily clued in to what is the best use of their time. They need instruction, they need supervision.

Nobody's saying we need to have a coach for everybody on the roster, either. But the players in their summer debriefing should have an extended meeting with the S&C staff and player development staff and a comprehensive summer regimen (diet, offseason physical development, skill development) should be presented to them and they should be held accountable for reaching their targets. The S&C staff should be in contact with them and should be advising them in proper places and forae for playing during the summer.

I think the organization has treated kids like they're adults far too often.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#218 » by gerrit4 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:48 pm

BorisDK1 wrote:I'm not saying they shouldn't be playing basketball in the summer: they not only shouldn't be forbidden from doing so, they probably should do so. But these kids (and that's what they are: kids, for the most part) aren't necessarily clued in to what is the best use of their time. They need instruction, they need supervision.

Nobody's saying we need to have a coach for everybody on the roster, either. But the players in their summer debriefing should have an extended meeting with the S&C staff and player development staff and a comprehensive summer regimen (diet, offseason physical development, skill development) should be presented to them and they should be held accountable for reaching their targets. The S&C staff should be in contact with them and should be advising them in proper places and forae for playing during the summer.

I think the organization has treated kids like they're adults far too often.


They're legally adults. They're not kids. You can't control adults, nor should you. This is typical fan babble - rules that are not allowed with the players union (nor should they be).

I agree that players shouldn't be playing pick-up games against guys like you or I - the potential for injury caused by carelessness is just too high. But this whole idea of controlling everything they do sounds a little too much like "1984" to me.
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#219 » by HomieOmey » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:51 pm

Just hire Clifford Ray to help Davis in practise, and I'm sure he'll start playing smarter
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Re: Ed Davis update (p. 10) meniscal injury 

Post#220 » by C_Money » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:54 pm

Ok its been like 3-4 days since the injury and we still don't know if he's out for a week or the whole season.

BTW Ed Davis is 21 years old. He's a grown a$$ man.
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