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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#81 » by andre316 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:00 pm

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andre316 wrote:If Dwight can improve his free throw shooting and SVG doesn't use Vinsanity so much, then I'll worry about the Magic.

He'll prolly never be a good FT-shooter, but I think he can still improve to 70% (which of course wouldn't be enough to stop fouling him ..)

And about Vince, Vince is prolly gone in February and Otis Smith's not gonna pay JJ Redick that much to keep the bench warm .. But we all know Stan so, he likes to not-use good players :D

A 10% jump would be big, especially for his confidence in crunch-time. But I think the biggest thing he needs is a good, consistent form. Personally I experiment with my foul shooting whenever I hit a slump, but if you're getting paid millions and are a franchise superstar who gets put on the line so regularly, I don't understand how your coaches can let you go out there and put your team and fanbase through that kind of "adventure" every night. He's not Chuck Hayes, he's D12, he's got funny VitaminWater commercials and makes movies. Learn to shoot free throws, damn it!

Or don't, I wouldn't complain.

As for Redick, yeah, it boggles my mind that despite all-around better play than VC in the playoffs, he was crucified for that bad timeout in Game 2 or whatever. Well, at least he was helping you guys undo the damage caused by Carter in the first place...
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#82 » by Ripp » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:11 pm

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Ripp wrote:Dwight cannot guard CB. I mean, you've watched Raps/Magic games over the past few years right, and thus are aware of this? Also, him being pulled out of the paint means nobody to protect the rim. Also, on one end he is guarding CB, but on the other end being guarded by whoever is playing C for the Heat. That is a lot of energy expended on both ends of the floor.

Well, he didn't guard Bosh all the time, LewRich did some time on Bosh too .. I don't think Dwight did a bad job guarding him, Lewis on the other hand :-? .. But we'll see, even though you're prolly gonna beat us, I'm gonna enjoy those games :)

Heh, I'm not really a Heat fan, actually a Raps fan. But CB and LBJ are two of my favorite players in the league, so I want to see them and the Heat do well :)
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#83 » by BelgianMagic » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:28 pm

andre316 wrote:A 10% jump would be big, especially for his confidence in crunch-time. But I think the biggest thing he needs is a good, consistent form. Personally I experiment with my foul shooting whenever I hit a slump, but if you're getting paid millions and are a franchise superstar who gets put on the line so regularly, I don't understand how your coaches can let you go out there and put your team and fanbase through that kind of "adventure" every night. He's not Chuck Hayes, he's D12, he's got funny VitaminWater commercials and makes movies. Learn to shoot free throws, damn it!

Or don't, I wouldn't complain.

As for Redick, yeah, it boggles my mind that despite all-around better play than VC in the playoffs, he was crucified for that bad timeout in Game 2 or whatever. Well, at least he was helping you guys undo the damage caused by Carter in the first place...

Yeah, confidence is a huge problem for Dwight. He worked out with Hakeem and he immediatly said that Dwight hasn't used half of offensive skills in real games, it's all bout having confidence in himself, and he doesn't have it enough. Same with FTs, I've seen clips of him knocking down alot of FTs, and then you watch a Magic game and you see the backboard nearly break from the ball being slammed into it with a FT :lol:

I'm also a big fan of Redick, he did a great job against the C's and he's very consistent. Curious how good he's gonna play with Vince's minutes .. Though he's gonna have a nightmare defensively guarding DWade ..

Ripp wrote:Heh, I'm not really a Heat fan, actually a Raps fan. But CB and LBJ are two of my favorite players in the league, so I want to see them and the Heat do well :)

Yeah, I'm a Magic fan, but most of all a basketball fan. I watch lotta games of other teams too, and I'm pretty sure, no matter what team you root for, the Heat are gonna be nice to watch ..
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#84 » by DWadeno3 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:37 pm

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Ripp wrote:Dwight cannot guard CB. I mean, you've watched Raps/Magic games over the past few years right, and thus are aware of this? Also, him being pulled out of the paint means nobody to protect the rim. Also, on one end he is guarding CB, but on the other end being guarded by whoever is playing C for the Heat. That is a lot of energy expended on both ends of the floor.

Well, he didn't guard Bosh all the time, LewRich did some time on Bosh too .. I don't think Dwight did a bad job guarding him, Lewis on the other hand :-? .. But we'll see, even though you're prolly gonna beat us, I'm gonna enjoy those games :)

Heh, I'm not really a Heat fan, actually a Raps fan. But CB and LBJ are two of my favorite players in the league, so I want to see them and the Heat do well :)


Screw you for not liking Dwyane! Kidding. :D

I honestly think the Bulls are probably tougher to beat than the Magic but I guess only time will tell.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#85 » by BelgianMagic » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:20 pm

Dunno bout the bulls against you guys, wade or bron can shut down Rose, so what's the problem? Deng? Bosh is also better than Booz IMO ..

Bout the Magic, let's wait till after the deadline, think it's pretty sure Vince won't be wearing a blue jersey in March .. But no matter who Orlando brings in, you guys are always gonna be the favorite
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#86 » by DWadeno3 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:51 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:Dunno bout the bulls against you guys, wade or bron can shut down Rose, so what's the problem? Deng? Bosh is also better than Booz IMO ..

Bout the Magic, let's wait till after the deadline, think it's pretty sure Vince won't be wearing a blue jersey in March .. But no matter who Orlando brings in, you guys are always gonna be the favorite


They just seem to have a good mix of players which makes them very versatile. Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, Luol Deng and Keith Bogans all bring different intangibles to the table on the wing and C.J. Watson is a more than solid backup for Rose. Don't understimate their frontline of Noah-Boozer-K.Thomas-T.Gibson either. They have depth and a variety of player types which allows them adapt to whatever situation comes up.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#87 » by BelgianMagic » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:25 pm

Well I agree with all of that, but in any injury-free situation, the wing won't be a problem for you guys .. Frontline, maybe. Noah can get under any big man's skin and Booz can score 30, but I don't see Chicago beating Miami, Boston or Orlando in a 7-game series. Winning 1 or 2 games is prolly realistic ..
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Post#88 » by rendezvousness » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:09 pm

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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#89 » by Heat11114 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:59 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:Well I agree with all of that, but in any injury-free situation, the wing won't be a problem for you guys .. Frontline, maybe. Noah can get under any big man's skin and Booz can score 30, but I don't see Chicago beating Miami, Boston or Orlando in a 7-game series. Winning 1 or 2 games is prolly realistic ..


Boozer had all of 5 30 point games last season. Bosh had 15...
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#90 » by Lord Leoshes » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:09 pm

I will repeat for the new guys, that this Heat team will lead the league in offensive, & defensive FG%, as well as FTA, & FTM.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#91 » by DWadeno3 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:37 pm

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BelgianMagic wrote:Well I agree with all of that, but in any injury-free situation, the wing won't be a problem for you guys .. Frontline, maybe. Noah can get under any big man's skin and Booz can score 30, but I don't see Chicago beating Miami, Boston or Orlando in a 7-game series. Winning 1 or 2 games is prolly realistic ..


Boozer had all of 5 30 point games last season. Bosh had 15...


He just said Boozer can go off for 30 at any time which is very true. He's a very versatile forward on offense and can cause a ton of damage, even against us. This is where I count on Dwyane and LeBron to carry most of the scoring load so that Bosh can focus on keeping Boozer in check. The big advantage we have over basically every team is that we have three superstars who can all take over games. So wherever we need defense, the guy can focus on that part and let the other two take care of the offense.

A lot of fans underestimate how good the teamplay of this squad will be. Team USA has shown how well they mesh. LeBron can take full advantage of his great court vision at his size, Dwyane can use his versatility on offense in different plays just like CB1 can. Spo really shouldn't have problems to design multiple plays with many finishing options in each play. I expect a lot of pick and rolls and pick and pops between Dwyane/LeBron and our center with the other wing player cutting to the hole while Miller or House park on the perimeter and Bosh somewhere in the midrange area to open up the paint. This is exactly why we don't need a good PG. Having two superstars with great playmaking abilities is something no other team in this league has. I'm really really excited to see what our plays will look like! :D
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#92 » by BelgianMagic » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:19 pm

Yeah I wasn't very clear in that post, I meant that Boozer could score 30 if he'd get lotta shots, Bosh is better, and it's not even close .. But although people say Bosh is a bad defender, Boozer won't score 30 on Bosh. With D-Will yes, but Rose, nah ..

I think everyone's excited to see how your plays will look like :)
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Post#93 » by Lord Leoshes » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:29 pm

Bosh will only guard Boozer for a small part of the game, most of the time it will be Anthony/Haslem, or even Howard.


Chi is not a threat. Bos, & LA are the only two.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#94 » by twix2500 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:19 pm

We should run through a lot of teams like the original dream team. The Lakers do have a chance of beating us, and it all depends on Bynum fullfilling some of his potential and Artest figuring out the Triangle offense. If Lakers can keep Bynum and Gasol on the floor to protect the paint, it will allow Artest and Kobe to pressure the ball. Most teams are going to try to throw different looks. You dont want to leave James, Wade and Bosh open, they will knock down open jumpers. Its going to get real ugly for a lot of teams, especially if this idiotic hate has really motivated this team. If this team has truely taken a proffesional approach, then we should come out of the gates like a monster. Im curious how the Bron, DWade and CB will effect the developement of Chalmers and Pittman.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#95 » by radikalBaller » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:33 pm

I think we stand a chance against any top team

Vs Lakers

Wade vs Fisher Chalmers vs Blake Aroyo vs Brown

Lebron vs Kobe House vs Vujacic Butler vs Ebanks

Miller vs Artest Jones vs Barnes Howard vs Walton

Bosh vs Gasol Haslem vs Odom Anthony vs Character

Dampier vs Bynum Ilgauskas vs Ratlif Pittman vs Mbenga


Vs Boston

Wade vs Rondo Chalmers vs Robinson Aroyo vs Bradley

Miller vs Allen House vs West Butler vs Von Wafer

Lebron vs Pierce Jones vs Daniels Howard vs Scalabrini

Bosh vs Garnett Haslem vs Davis Anthony vs JON

Dampier vs Shaq Ilgauskas vs Perkins Pittman vs Erden


Vs orlando

Wade vs Nelson Chalmers vs Duhon Aroyo vs J-will

Miller vs Qrich House vs Redick Butler vs Stanley robinson

Lebron vs Carter Jones vs Pietrus Howard vs Malik allen

Bosh vs Lewis Haslem vs Anderson Anthony vs Bass

Dampier vs Howard Ilgauskas vs Gortat Pittman vs Orton



Vs Chicago

Wade vs Rose Chalmers vs CJ watson Aroyo vs Pargo

Miller vs Brewer House vs Bogans Butler vs Murray

Lebron vs Deng Jones vs Korver Howard vs Devin brown

Bosh vs Boozer Haslem vs Gibson Anthony vs Joe aleksander

Dampier vs Noah Ilgauskas vs Asik Pittman vs Kurt Thomas



Observations :

We have a slight better starting 5 than LA but they have a slight better bench. Should be an interresting battle.

We have a better starting 5 than Boston but they are very deep especially with bigs. Nevertheless one of Shaq, Perkins, JON or Bigbaby definitively won't be happy with his touches and minutes. Chemistry ?

Orlando is very strong at the center position and can shoot from deep but they will have a lot of difficuc
lties containing our wings. That could lead their bigs into foul trouble plus they will again live and die by the 3.

Chicago's make up is similar to ours exept a lil less talented. They should shoot the ball better than last year but hey don't have a lot of bigs.

Concerning our team i still think we could use a guy like stackhouse as insurance.

Most importantly all these top teams are strong at the center position. Getting Dampier could be a huge boost trying to contain these monsters as he got the size strenght and ability to do so.
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Re: How are they going to stop us 

Post#96 » by Chosen01 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:50 pm

Wade won't be the starting PG, so you'll need to revamp your matchups.
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Post#97 » by radikalBaller » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:54 pm

Chosen01 wrote:Wade won't be the starting PG, so you'll need to revamp your matchups.



I know, that was assuming we could get Dampier and we had to play the line up that'd give us the best chance of wining defensively and ofensively against any team. Otherwise against these top teams, we'll have to change lineups every night depending on matchup. Not sure if it's the best solution.
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Post#98 » by DWadeno3 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:00 pm

JON will certainly not be Boston's third-string PF either. :lol:
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Post#99 » by radikalBaller » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:07 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:JON will certainly not be Boston's third-string PF either. :lol:


I agree but when Perks comes back what do they do with Garnett, Davis, Perkins, Shaq and JON ? Knowing that Garnett has to log the at least 2/3 of the minutes at PF and that except for Davis none of the other bigs are quick enough to guard the Bosh, Odom, Lewis of this league ? I think they clearly overdid it at the center position. Not to mention that some Boston's fans still expect Rasheed to come back. All these guys got big egos and 1 or 2 of them won't be playing much if not at all.


IMO for JON it's either third string C or third string PF. I agree that he won't like it but i doubt neither Shaq nor Davis would agree to play third string instead. One of these guys is getting the shaft for sure. What is a worst cancer, a malcontent Shaq, Davis or JON, pick your poison.
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Post#100 » by DWadeno3 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:31 pm

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DWadeno3 wrote:JON will certainly not be Boston's third-string PF either. :lol:


I agree but when Perks comes back what do they do with Garnett, Davis, Perkins, Shaq and JON ? Knowing that Garnett has to log the at least 2/3 of the minutes at PF and that except for Davis none of the other bigs are quick enough to guard the Bosh, Odom, Lewis of this league ? I think they clearly overdid it at the center position. Not to mention that some Boston's fans still expect Rasheed to come back. All these guys got big egos and 1 or 2 of them won't be playing much if not at all.


IMO for JON it's either third string C or third string PF. I agree that he won't like it but i doubt neither Shaq nor Davis would agree to play third string instead. One of these guys is getting the shaft for sure. What is a worst cancer, a malcontent Shaq, Davis or JON, pick your poison.


I guess it depends on the opponent. Sometimes Shaq's big body can help but sometimes JO's finesse game and defensive abilities will be helpful. I doubt Shaq will cause any drama though. He accepted a lesser role in Cleveland already and knew what was going to happen when he signed with the Celtics. They'll just have a deep rotation. Getting Perkins back to a 100% will take a while and they can certainly take that time with the depth they have. Once he's back, it's all about the matchups and who's performing well and who's not.
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