Randolph should not be traded for anybody

[falcindor]

Hes the one guy who should not be moved. To me he has more value than Gallo. Gallo is a guy you may want to keep put of curiosites sake because we wonder where his ceiling is. Randolph however is a guy we can pretty much predict how his game will mesh with Amare's. Amare made the Matrix the star he was and Randolph should fit into that role quite nicely. Randolph bring a similar energy and hustle. But a few inches taller than Amares old conterpart and that should be an advantage. If were talking Melo the shooter we can spare the shooting Gallo before the board crashing Randolph. If Melo would take a hard stance publicly about the Knicks. I think the Knicks would wait and try to bring everybody together. I think adding Melo in the offseason make us a championship contending team. Trading big assets for him this season makes us a good team in the east with a chance at grabbing a big catch this summer.

[Marty McFly]

i'd trade him for a number of players actually. i think the knicks will have a lot of options depending on how all of the melo talk pans out. I'm on record as saying that i would deal stat for another young stud or 2 if melo as an option falls through. it makes zero sense to me to hold onto him if we aren't going to get him that second star to run with.

the reason I have that opinion is because of what i think randolph can be.

[wwtsm]

i'd trade him for a number of players actually. i think the knicks will have a lot of options depending on how all of the melo talk pans out. I'm on record as saying that i would deal stat for another young stud or 2 if melo as an option falls through. it makes zero sense to me to hold onto him if we aren't going to get him that second star to run with.

the reason I have that opinion is because of what i think randolph can be.

STAT can't be moved now for a number of reasons, but I'd rather have a young prospect at PG/SG/C than Amare at this point. The success of the Amare signing COMPLETELY depends on whether or not his presence in NY lures another superstar here during his tenure here...

[Marty McFly]

I'm not talking about moving him now obviously.

[falcindor]

Having Randoph and Amare should be the only players written in pen. The rest pencil. I ultimately would like to see mext season:

Amare Stoudamire
Anthony Randolph
Carmelo Anthony
JR Smith - Next year free agent for midlevel
Jason Kidd - via trade

[DocZaius]

You either trade Randolph right now or when he proves to be less than advertised.

I have some belief in the kid but he is not untouchable as of right now.

[stuporman]

Amar'e made Marion? So while Marion was putting together a nearly 20-10 season in 01-02, where was Amar'e? High school!

Check facts before spewing trash....FALSEndor is now your name.

[Ron1]

Hes the one guy who should not be moved. To me he has more value than Gallo. Gallo is a guy you may want to keep put of curiosites sake because we wonder where his ceiling is. Randolph however is a guy we can pretty much predict how his game will mesh with Amare's. Amare made the Matrix the star he was and Randolph should fit into that role quite nicely. Randolph bring a similar energy and hustle. But a few inches taller than Amares old conterpart and that should be an advantage. If were talking Melo the shooter we can spare the shooting Gallo before the board crashing Randolph. If Melo would take a hard stance publicly about the Knicks. I think the Knicks would wait and try to bring everybody together. I think adding Melo in the offseason make us a championship contending team. Trading big assets for him this season makes us a good team in the east with a chance at grabbing a big catch this summer.

You are forgetting two important fact concerning Melo:

Melo = 3 All-Star appearances
Randolph = 0 All-Star appearances.

Melo = Playoffs all 7 years of his career
Randolph = Playoffs 0 years of his career

My point is you trade Randolph and anyone else on this roster for a once in a life time player like Melo. You are a fool if you don't think he should be traded.

[GotItNow]

Hes the one guy who should not be moved. To me he has more value than Gallo. Gallo is a guy you may want to keep put of curiosites sake because we wonder where his ceiling is. Randolph however is a guy we can pretty much predict how his game will mesh with Amare's. Amare made the Matrix the star he was and Randolph should fit into that role quite nicely. Randolph bring a similar energy and hustle. But a few inches taller than Amares old conterpart and that should be an advantage. If were talking Melo the shooter we can spare the shooting Gallo before the board crashing Randolph. If Melo would take a hard stance publicly about the Knicks. I think the Knicks would wait and try to bring everybody together. I think adding Melo in the offseason make us a championship contending team. Trading big assets for him this season makes us a good team in the east with a chance at grabbing a big catch this summer.

LMAO at thinking "we can pretty much predict" much of anything about Randolph except he will be intense. The dude throws himself out there and cares and I love that about him, he's willing to give up his body. Probably toning it down a bit would be helpful to staying healthy but you can't teach that heart. I've read what Warriors fans thought of him and there were plenty who loved his talents and thought he should be on the floor more. There were also plenty who said he didn't have any idea what was going on out there and could frig something up as easily as make a highlight play.

That sounds nothing like something you can predict.

Gallo is the more valuable player, more likely to reach his potential which while lower than Anthony's is plenty high itself. But I'm really looking to see what Randolph can do with us, I'm not slighting him at all...I just think that much of Gallo. In a year I may feel differently.

[Subway Token]

To be quite honest, a part of the Knicks failure this past however many years (yep, lost track) is caused, in part, by our 'banking' on players to become ultra-stars. Sometimes you gotta get proven talent and risk trading your potential talent.

50% chance of having a superstar (either he does or doesn't) <<<<<<<<< 100% chance of being an all-star (already an all-star)

[rammagen]

BY Anthony it has been a nice summer. don't let the door hit on the way out and please stay healthy till we play you. If you are willing to trade Gallo then you are willing to trade Anthony. To me health wise, shot wise, basket ball knowledge wise, Gallo is the better prospect. Anthony is the better athlete and re-bounder but he is not the the better player. Gallo's game opens the floor for Amare and for Carmello while Anthony's game is driving towards the basket making easier for other teams to defend

[method]

I'm not talking about moving him now obviously.

That girl is sooo cute in your sig,I find myself in a trance everytime you post.

[NoLayupRule]

Hes a shiny new object.

Even though hes a Knick its too soon to undervalue him so he will be treated like a member of another team for now and therefor is better than anything we have.

His potential value outstrips any real world value of a player like Anthony simply by the fact that hes never played for us before

fixed!

[moocow007]

Hes the one guy who should not be moved. To me he has more value than Gallo. Gallo is a guy you may want to keep put of curiosites sake because we wonder where his ceiling is. Randolph however is a guy we can pretty much predict how his game will mesh with Amare's. Amare made the Matrix the star he was and Randolph should fit into that role quite nicely. Randolph bring a similar energy and hustle. But a few inches taller than Amares old conterpart and that should be an advantage. If were talking Melo the shooter we can spare the shooting Gallo before the board crashing Randolph. If Melo would take a hard stance publicly about the Knicks. I think the Knicks would wait and try to bring everybody together. I think adding Melo in the offseason make us a championship contending team. Trading big assets for him this season makes us a good team in the east with a chance at grabbing a big catch this summer.

You are forgetting two important fact concerning Melo:

Melo = 3 All-Star appearances
Randolph = 0 All-Star appearances.

Melo = Playoffs all 7 years of his career
Randolph = Playoffs 0 years of his career

My point is you trade Randolph and anyone else on this roster for a once in a life time player like Melo. You are a fool if you don't think he should be traded.

I don't think anyone is (or should be) disagreeing with you that Melo is clearly the best player being discussed. But the issue is (or should be) fair value. Before Walsh just tells Ujiri and Kroenke "take whomever you want" there's needs to be an agreement on what is fair value. Had Melo been in more of a Chris Paul situation then obviously you'd have to give more. But the factors working against the Nuggets in terms of getting ideal value for him are in full play right now. They are limited by the number of teams that Melo would resign with (apparently now back down to 2) as well as the potential that he walks at seasons end. Unless there are new factors that come into play there's no reason to offer both Randolph and Gallinari.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'd much rather trade AR than Gallo. Is falcindor the same guy who is obsessed with Lamar Odom?

[I_Love_NYK]

Anthony Randolph makes this fast break so deadly with him and Amare running down the field. His pure athleticism is a must in today's league. Flys through the court swatting shots and makes montserous dunks. He has more upside than Gallo and him gaining weight in the offseason showed his determination.

[Jstarks3]

jr smith and jason kidd? lol.

[NBAonNBC]

For the 100th time Melo is not a SHOOTING GUARD!!!..if you keep Gallo then where the hell are you going to play Melo?? I don't understand this obsession with Gallo..Yeah he's a nice solid player but he isn't a once in a decade player and who knows if he even makes the Allstar team with Melo and Amare on the team..Atleast Randolph plays defense and rebounds and once his body matures he can easily be a DYNAMIC CENTER..Randolph is a better fit with Amare and Melo than Gallo is. I'm not hating on Gallo but if you want Melo you can't have him play out of position at the 2. It's going to expose him defensively.

[NBA Fan 1234]

For the 100th time Melo is not a SHOOTING GUARD!!!..if you keep Gallo then where the hell are you going to play Melo?? I don't understand this obsession with Gallo..Yeah he's a nice solid player but he isn't a once in a decade player and who knows if he even makes the Allstar team with Melo and Amare on the team..Atleast Randolph plays defense and rebounds and once his body matures he can easily be a DYNAMIC CENTER..Randolph is a better fit with Amare and Melo than Gallo is. I'm not hating on Gallo but if you want Melo you can't have him play out of position at the 2. It's going to expose him defensively.

Lol what? Gallo plays defense too...one could make the argument that Gallo is the better man to man defender and AR is the better help defender, although Gallo is a solid help defender also.

AR's frame might not let him put on a lot more weight to become a center...he has a different body type. If you continue to put weight on him, trying to make him into a center, he might lose his explosiveness and athleticism.

Personally, I'd much rather keep Gallo than AR.

I'm not surprised to see this from Falcindor (if he is the same one who is obsessed with Lamar Odom).

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

Melo > Randolph. So if Denver wants AR over Gallo, we should still do it. I'm not in favor of trading both of them together though.