Melo staying in Denver for the season... good news?

[Meatcookie]

Since Melo is staying in Denver for the season (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69307/20100927/melo_im_leaving_options_open_until_end_of_season/), that is good news for the Rockets for swapping picks with NY.

But that is also bad news for the Rockets because it means that Denver will still be a strong playoff team.

Would you rather have the Knicks like they are and swap picks with them (of course we will have the better record). Or would you rather Denver be out of the playoffs and the Rockets move up one spot and not trade picks with NY (possibly)?

[MaxRider]

who cares about where Denver is in the west
we are not good enough to compete for title anyway

[bubba]

i agree i dont think denver will be a threat. wherever he goes that team wont compete. new york? new jersey? both teams will either have a gutted roster or not enough talent to get into playoffs. i used to care abt melo coming here but now im content with this team.

[PocketRockets]

you are gonna see a Nuggets team that will play half hearted bc they know melo won't be there next year. Everyone will be even more selfish and that team will be floundering at the all star break. There is only one real threat to anyone in the West and that's the lakers. The next 7 spots are up for grabs.

If kobe is hurt and gimp during the playoffs, every team that makes the playoffs will get a shot at the title.

[x-]

No way he stays in Denver for the season. They'll get a deal done sooner or later.

For the Rockets it's probably best if he doesn't get traded to NY, because the value of the New York picks would likely decrease.

[texasholdem]

Can't believe he's trying to play it off by saying he never requested a trade.

[Ribalding]

No way he stays in Denver for the season. They'll get a deal done sooner or later.

For the Rockets it's probably best if he doesn't get traded to NY, because the value of the New York picks would likely decrease.

Quite the opposite, I think. NY having to give the Rockets more assets for their own picks would literally make my whole September.

[x-]

Can't believe he's trying to play it off by saying he never requested a trade.

He has nothing to gain really by admitting it, other than getting fined.

No way he stays in Denver for the season. They'll get a deal done sooner or later.

For the Rockets it's probably best if he doesn't get traded to NY, because the value of the New York picks would likely decrease.

Quite the opposite, I think. NY having to give the Rockets more assets for their own picks would literally make my whole September.

There sure are a few scenarios in which the Rockets could/would benifit from a Melo to NY trade, but they don't seem very likely to me.

[Ribalding]

There sure are a few scenarios in which the Rockets could/would benifit from a Melo to NY trade, but they don't seem very likely to me.

Denver wants picks and young talent for 'Melo. Houston has so many of NY's picks that NY can't trade (via the CBA) another 1st rounder for a loong time.

So if NY wants Melo, they have to come crawling back to Morey so he can hurt them in the butt again.

All for the wizened corpse of T-Mac. Not bad.

[Moreyball]

Trade NY back the 2012 pick and Jordan Hill for Anthony Randolph.

Scola/Randolph/Patterson
Yao/Miller/Hayes

Best frontcourt in the NBA.

[bubba]

Trade NY back the 2012 pick and Jordan Hill for Anthony Randolph.

Scola/Randolph/Patterson
Yao/Miller/Hayes

Best frontcourt in the NBA.

i say if walsh wants that 1st rd pick that bad hell give us randolph for a 1st. if not he can buy a melo nets jersey and watch nets games in his home with the lights off crying.

[CanufeelThabeet]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4734 ... y-randolph

[texasholdem]

I'd rather trade for Kevin Love if he's available. Seems more like an Adelman type of big man.

[Ribalding]

I'd rather trade for Kevin Love if he's available. Seems more like an Adelman type of big man.

There has to be a way to get Khan to give away Kevin Love. Has to be.

I bet if he got another point guard in the deal...

[texasholdem]

I'd rather trade for Kevin Love if he's available. Seems more like an Adelman type of big man.

There has to be a way to get Khan to give away Kevin Love. Has to be.

I bet if he got another point guard in the deal...

Knicks 2012 pick, Jordan Hill and the rights to Sergio Llull for Kevin Love?
(wonder who would get to the Wolves first, Llull or Rubio)

[aznkillabeezZz]

Kevin love is overrated. The guy is very stiff at defense. Yeah I think he's a decent offensive player, but he can't even get a start at Minnesota, and they only got 16 wins with him there. I hope he doesn't come to the Rockets. He's due for a breakout season in his 3rd season? So he should showcase his effectiveness this season. But I doubt he'll be the "fit" for the Rockets need. He isn't as agile as other star big men, part of the reason they left him on the bench.

[aznkillabeezZz]

As for Melo. He's going to have a tough season with fans questioning where his heart is. The guy is a bigger drama queen than Lebron. At least lebron made THE decision. Melo probably wears high heels when he's at home. LALA tells him what to do and where to go.

It won't affect the Rockets. Rockets still got 2 knick draft picks, that the knicks desperately want back. Imagine how the knick players are feeling. Half the team was being shopped for LALA's Melo, they probably will continue sucking, who knows.

[Ribalding]

Kevin love is overrated. The guy is very stiff at defense. Yeah I think he's a decent offensive player, but he can't even get a start at Minnesota, and they only got 16 wins with him there. I hope he doesn't come to the Rockets. He's due for a breakout season in his 3rd season? So he should showcase his effectiveness this season. But I doubt he'll be the "fit" for the Rockets need. He isn't as agile as other star big men, part of the reason they left him on the bench.

I thought the same stuff, but after seeing him at the WC in Turkey, I'm a believer. Kevin Love is Luis Scola with a better jumper and 6 more inches on his vert (bringing him up to an astonishing 9 inch vertical). Plus he throws outlet passes like Otis Thorpe. He was the 2nd best player on the team in Turkey. And like Scola, he doesn't light the house on fire. He just gets it done.

Send 'em Llull or however many consonants he has in his name. Kahn will bite.

[moofs]

Kevin love is overrated.

I find it hard to overrated 14/11 in 28 mpg, but that's me.

As for Melo. He's going to have a tough season with fans questioning where his heart is. The guy is a bigger drama queen than Lebron. At least lebron made THE decision. Melo probably wears high heels when he's at home. LALA tells him what to do and where to go.

Truth is, Melo still just isn't that good, so who cares? (Silly, question. Plenty of delusional people do, I'm sure)
Looks like it's time to hope that Kevin Martin gets back to his old levels of effectiveness.

[red96]

No way he stays in Denver for the season. They'll get a deal done sooner or later.

For the Rockets it's probably best if he doesn't get traded to NY, because the value of the New York picks would likely decrease.

Quite the opposite, I think. NY having to give the Rockets more assets for their own picks would literally make my whole September.

But what assets would they be able to give us after Denver gets the assets they want? I doubt the Nuggets would be happy with Gallo, Curry, and a late pick (2011 NY 1st) for Melo. At the very least it would be Gallo and Randolph + whatever. As of now that 2011 NY pick looks like it will be in the 11-17 range, but they’re most likely to get a 7th or 8th seed in the East. Randolph is worth more than a pick like that and every GM’s knows it. Denver will want Gallo, Randolph and the pick. After those 2 the only asset NY will have left to give us for the pick is Chandler. I do not want. Rockets do not need.

Now if the reported Melo NJ trade happens, I think they’d most likely miss the playoffs. Then I’d see the Knicks pick in the 9-15 range or maybe top 8 with some lottery luck. That’s what most Knicks fans realize and that’s why I had hoped it happened over last weekend. With Melo gone, the Knicks will have to wait until next offseason to get another star to team with Amare. But who’s really left for them to choose from?

Potential 2011 FA

Billups? ETO so he’d have to turn down 14 mill with the new CBA in effect. Is old and alone still won’t make them a contender.
Parker? ETO (same situation a Billups). May stay in SA and still wouldn’t make them a contender.
Yao? Ain’t happening.
Duncan? ETO and yeah right.
Randolph? Bridge burnt to a crisp.
D. West? ETO. Plays same position as Amare and Randolph. Would fail.
C. Butler? Why would they?
J-Rich?
Crawford? More LOLZ.
Big Baby? See West


Not a lot to pick from and the best ones have to opt out with the new CBA. Randolph and Gallo won’t ever become superstars and won’t make NY a contender themselves. Most smart NY fans know this already. That’s why they want Melo so badly. Because with Melo, they feel they also have a shot at CP3 and form a big 3. Without Melo, they know that they’ll never have much more than a .500 team (for years) and all of those years of sucking, clearing space, and giving away assets would’ve be all for nothing.

Moral of the story: We won’t get Randolph. Knicks suck= 2 really good picks (lottery) for HOU= better assets to bring in better players to make HOU a contender.
I want the Knicks to have a season and chemistry so bad that is explodes like an a-bomb in the MSG locker room. Well not too bad, those 2 picks have some protection.