what to expect from brewer

F1uxCapacit0r · Post #1 » by **F1uxCapacit0r** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:35 pm

is he still gonna get 30+min or is the SG / SF too crowded???

Foye · Post #2 » by **Foye** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:18 pm

Him, Webster, Hayward, Ellington and Wesley Johnson will have a brutal fight for minutes this season.

Right now, expect Beasley to be the SF starter. Means he's at least getting 20 minutes there (and like 10-12 minutes as a PF).

You've got 96 minutes at SG/SF - 20. That's 76 minutes for 5 players. Wesley Johnson the no. 4 pick and newly acquired Martell Webster will probably each get at least 20 minutes. (Maybe even more)

So that's 36 minutes for Brewer, Hayward and Ellington if all of them are healthy. I guess it's safe to say he won't get 30 minutes again. More like 16-18 minutes when everyone is healthy.

I gotta say I love our depth this year. Last season we had to play guys who were clearly not talented enough for the nba or not even in shape like Nate Jawai. This season we've got a more talented group of guys and I think our bench is going to be one of our strength's this upcoming season.

Pekovic/Koufos
Tolliver
Johnson/Hayward
Brewer/Ellington
Ridnour (when Flynn is healthy)/Bassy

Only position where we don't have two nba caliber players as reserves is PF but Beasley and Pekovic both should be doing just fine as PF if Kevin Love is out.
I think we went from having the worst bench of the league to having a bench that can hold their own against top benches in the nba once they develop chemistry.
Last season we had guys like Pavlobitch, Cardinal, Jawai, Hollins, Wilkins or Pecherov getting a lot of minutes. This season we got a talented group of guys who are hungry and want to come in and win. Honestly, I think our bench is the part of the team that has improved the most this offseason.

TyKixx · Post #3 » by **TyKixx** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:25 pm

Ellington, Hayward, Tolliver, Koufos are going to have a hard time finding minutes despite being a more talented group collectively than Hollins, Wilkins, Gomes, Pecherov who spent most of last season either starting and/or receiving consistent minutes in our rotation. Those people who don't believe our roster is improved are truely clueless Kahn bashers.

Biff Cooper · Post #4 » by **Biff Cooper** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:14 pm

TyKixx wrote:Ellington, Hayward, Tolliver, Koufos are going to have a hard time finding minutes despite being a more talented group collectively than Hollins, Wilkins, Gomes, Pecherov who spent most of last season either starting and/or receiving consistent minutes in our rotation. Those people who don't believe our roster is improved are truely clueless Kahn bashers.

Wasn't it Kahn who brought in Hollins, Wilkins and Pecherov last year? I believe our roster will be improved this year, but if you think all of Kahn's deals have been unquestionably good, I think you are wrong.

Ice32 · Post #5 » by **Ice32** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:07 pm

I think with a year under the "Triangle System" Brewer will easily average 25-30 minutes, why wouldnt he? He can play SG and SF and was one of the leagues MIPs last season. I dont think Coach Rambis is gonna all of the sudden give quality minutes to Webster and a Rookie for the hell of it, these guys have to earn minutes - and Brewer already has the upper hand, he will be the starting SG to begin the season.

I also feel that Brewer still thinks he has something to prove, his last season wasnt a fluke but he knows he can do better. I would expect his game to involve alot more jumpers this year, more three point shots and better decision making. His FT% was pretty poor last season at 64%, so hopefully hes been working on those, which will keep him on the floor longer and during 4th quarters.

This season, I could see him averaging 30mpg, 45% FG, 38% 3PT, 70% FT, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1.5 stls and 14.5ppg.

Only Brewer can stop himself from playing minutes on the court, I think hes in for another quality season.

Dewey · Post #6 » by **Dewey** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:55 am

^^^ I mostly agree ^^^

Plus Kahn and Rambis have talked alot about length and athleticism ... well at 6'9", Brewer also has some run. It would be a slap in the face if it's not his to lose. If others perform better then so be it

wolfbourne · Post #7 » by **wolfbourne** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:55 am

I think Brewer will be a sure starter at SG for at least the first 20 games of the season. At this current point, i don't think the talent difference between the players able to play that position is great enough to overthrow Brewers experience in the offence. I think Brewer's biggest threat to minutes early in the season will be Webster, being the only other player on the team fit for the SG position with any NBA age and knowledge. I also think he will be a threat due to the fact i think Kahn and Rambis are eager to give him some solid minutes early to see what HE can do. Webster will probably be the quickest to come accustomed to the Timberwolves offensive SG position, and may take some starts away from Brewer early depending on matchups? I would expect around 28MPG starting out and by the end of the season, finding himself as the 6th man for SG/SF and playing a flexible 15-20MPG.

Brewer also has to show noticeable improvement as well this season, that may not necessarily transfer over into stats. Someone can clarify as i'm not sure, but i have the feeling he is coming close to having his future NBA cards dealt at the end of this season or next? I don't think he has anything higher than a solid 6th man ceiling in the NBA, but i think he needs an improved season to define himself as that solid 6th man type of player, not just someone that is decently average. I would like to see him moved to a permanent 6th man position maybe around the 30-40 game mark, and from that point i'd really like to see him work on his 'spark' he brings to the players around him and be a great tempo guy to bring in off the bench and make himself look good, and everyone else better. Hopefully by doing so, he will either bring himself to be a definitive solid piece in the Wolves future, or make himself appealing enough to be a valuable trade asset to us and good enough to be wanted on a good team!

slinky · Post #8 » by **slinky** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:23 pm

I think it is to difficult right now to predict how many minutes Brewer is going to average for the season. To me having depth means that Rambis will play the hot hand. If Brewer has an off night, there are 3-4 choices to step up and take his minutes. And if Brewer has several off-nights in a row, than he will get fewer minutes because we now have some better alternative than last year. But if Brewer works hard, plays smart, and contributes some solid basketball, he will get his minutes.

It also depends on how the game is going. If the Wolves need scoring maybe Martell and Wes prove to be more instant offense than Brewer. If Brewer proves to be the defensive stud that he could be(and despite popular belief, has not consistently proven yet), than he is going to see a lot of time this year.

Also, I hate the talk about capping anybody's ceiling as a 6th man. Brewer has starting POTENTIAL on any team. I like what he brings to the starting 5 much more than someone like Webster at this point. I think Brewer's floor is as a 6th-8th man. But I still think he has good potential.

TyKixx · Post #9 » by **TyKixx** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:48 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
TyKixx wrote:Ellington, Hayward, Tolliver, Koufos are going to have a hard time finding minutes despite being a more talented group collectively than Hollins, Wilkins, Gomes, Pecherov who spent most of last season either starting and/or receiving consistent minutes in our rotation. Those people who don't believe our roster is improved are truely clueless Kahn bashers.

Wasn't it Kahn who brought in Hollins, Wilkins and Pecherov last year? I believe our roster will be improved this year, but if you think all of Kahn's deals have been unquestionably good, I think you are wrong.

I can't be wrong if I actually never said it.