If you don't think that Granger is the Pacers vocal leader..

DWCP2 · Post #1 » by **DWCP2** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:42 am

He made an impact to his two troubled teammates, the first man to contact both Rush and Stephenson wasn't management after the incidents, it was Granger.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2010092 ... -to-change

Echoed loud and clear after reading the article in my mind!

Clangus · Post #2 » by **Clangus** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:45 am

That was a good move by Danny. Management may not have wanted to seem "soft" on off court issues, so the teams best player reaching out is a good way to make players feel like they are still wanted.

On a side note I think (and hope) that the Worlds experience and being able to learn and play from some really good players and leaders(Billups, Odom etc) will help Granger's game alot.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #3 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:54 am

So who's gonna be cut or traded? It said we signed Magnum to a two year deal. Burrd and Morway probly looking for a trade.

DWCP2 · Post #4 » by **DWCP2** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:58 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:So who's gonna be cut or traded? It said we signed Magnum to a two year deal. Burrd and Morway probly looking for a trade.

I think Well hinted to it. They are pushing a Ford/D. Jones combo in return for something, whether it be a PF or a higher quality guard, IDK.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #5 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:03 am

Hope it ain't Diaw. I could live with it, but I'd rather get an expiring and a 2nd tho.

DWCP2 · Post #6 » by **DWCP2** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:15 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:Hope it ain't Diaw. I could live with it, but I'd rather get an expiring and a 2nd tho.

Yeah but Diaw wouldn't be a bad choice though. He's got the versatility, ball skills, smarts, etc. that can fit really well in O'Brien's offense.

chube · Post #7 » by **chube** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:27 am

^^^ I don't necessarily feel should rush into a PF trade. The best thing Larry Bird did with the PG situation is not pull the trigger solely for the sake of pulling the trigger. He waited patiently and managed to land Collison instead of an iffy-at-best D.J. Augustin.

Diaw would be fine but is undersized for the PF position. He's obviously proven he can play bigger than that, but I know a lot of people are interested in guys like Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, and Al Horford and I'm with them.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #8 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:40 am

DWCP2 wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:Hope it ain't Diaw. I could live with it, but I'd rather get an expiring and a 2nd tho.

Yeah but Diaw wouldn't be a bad choice though. He's got the versatility, ball skills, smarts, etc. that can fit really well in O'Brien's offense.

Getting players that fit his system, kinda means he will be here longer. I thought we wanted to go the other way, away from O'Brien's system, away from O'Brien.

laydo · Post #9 » by **laydo** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:12 pm

Good to see Granger showing some leadership off the court. Hope he can show that on the court in the coming season.

DWCP2 wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:So who's gonna be cut or traded? It said we signed Magnum to a two year deal. Burrd and Morway probly looking for a trade.

I think Well hinted to it. They are pushing a Ford/D. Jones combo in return for something, whether it be a PF or a higher quality guard, IDK.

For the higher quality guard, Crawford and Terry may be the choice.

Wizop · Post #10 » by **Wizop** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:21 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
DWCP2 wrote:Getting players that fit his system, kinda means he will be here longer. I thought we wanted to go the other way, away from O'Brien's system, away from O'Brien.

I see no signs that Bird wants that although lots of fans seem to. I was encouraged by the quotes from O'B in the Star. I like coach as a person and hope that he shows some flexibility this year and changes the offense as necessary to best utilize the talents of Collison, Hansbrough, Hibbert, and McRoberts.

Clangus · Post #11 » by **Clangus** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:00 am

Wizop wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:
DWCP2 wrote:Getting players that fit his system, kinda means he will be here longer. I thought we wanted to go the other way, away from O'Brien's system, away from O'Brien.

I see no signs that Bird wants that although lots of fans seem to. I was encouraged by the quotes from O'B in the Star. I like coach as a person and hope that he shows some flexibility this year and changes the offense as necessary to best utilize the talents of Collison, Hansbrough, Hibbert, and McRoberts.

I didn't read that article - but did he make mention of Collisons ability to run the pick and roll/pop and how he'd implement that into his current ball movement system?

Post #12 » by **Miller4ever** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:41 am

Headless Chicken Motion Offense has thus far not resulted in many passes to the pick setter. Maybe it's because our previous PG's haven't had the vision.

Post #13 » by **Grang33r** » Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:35 am

DWCP2 wrote:He made an impact to his two troubled teammates, the first man to contact both Rush and Stephenson wasn't management after the incidents, it was Granger.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2010092 ... -to-change

Echoed loud and clear after reading the article in my mind!

That is awesome. Thanks for sharing the link.

Clangus · Post #14 » by **Clangus** » Thu Oct 7, 2010 5:03 am

Miller4ever wrote:Headless Chicken Motion Offense has thus far not resulted in many passes to the pick setter. Maybe it's because our previous PG's haven't had the vision.

That is an awesome description! AWESOME

Post #15 » by **Miller4ever** » Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:18 am

In one of the videos, Dunleavy described it the same way. When it works, it's hard to defend. When it doesn't, it really is like a lot of running around to no end.

Post #16 » by **Miller4ever** » Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:18 am

In one of the videos, Dunleavy described it the same way. When it works, it's hard to defend. When it doesn't, it really is like a lot of running around to no end.