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I'd like to keep Flynn around until the Packers have groomed another capable backup. No way would I give him up for Lynch.
Slaton is an interesting option. I loved him at West Virginia. He was legit his rookie season before falling off the map last year.
Slaton is an interesting option. I loved him at West Virginia. He was legit his rookie season before falling off the map last year.
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DrugBust wrote:I'd like to keep Flynn around until the Packers have groomed another capable backup. No way would I give him up for Lynch.
Slaton is an interesting option. I loved him at West Virginia. He was legit his rookie season before falling off the map last year.
Last year the Texans fell in love with Foster because he is a big, fast, 1 cut and go guy, Slaton isn't.....the Packers like big, tough 1 cut and go guys....not sure Slaton would be of interest....listening to McCarthy's presser, you are looking at there running game for the forseeable future.
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xTitan wrote:I start Nance this week to see what he has and go from there. It would also help if there was a hole from time to time to run through. Another thing the Packers can do if they want to run is play your best O-lineman...it is apparent the Clifton and Tauscher are done, Bulaga is 10 times the run blocker either of them are....it is time for a change, I also wouldn't mind seeing what Lang can do.
Yea we are playing Detroit at home, this is the best time to at least give Nance 7-10 carries and see if maybe anything is there. Then if he looks terrible, Ted will have to make a move somehow to get a back unless they are fairly convinced that Starks can be better than anything that can be traded for.
As for the line, the tackle situation is very shaky and i wouldn't be shocked if by say week 7-8, both Bulaga and Lang are starting at tackle. Clifton is brittle and Tauscher simply looks like he can't move his feet well enough anymore. He never was an athletic guy overall, but he had great feet and technique. Now Tauscher looks like he's trying to survive on savvy alone and in a league with so many skilled defensive lineman, it might not be enough.
That said, with the terrible running game, the line on the road spent nearly the whole game going backwards in pass protection. Peppers and the other Bears lineman rarely had to worry about both keeping their run responsibilities and rushing the passer. Instead, they almost entirely were able to focus solely on just getting after Rodgers without having that split second of indecision of whether a run might be called. That makes it tougher for any tackle. Same with the Bears linebackers and safeties. Once the Bears could easily see the Packers couldn't run the ball, their linebackers were flying back into the passing zones right after the snap and thus Aaron couldn't complete many passes downfield. The Bears also were able to play both safeties deep all game because they had zero fear that we could run the ball vs 7 men in the box defenses.
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DrugBust wrote:I'd like to keep Flynn around until the Packers have groomed another capable backup. No way would I give him up for Lynch.
I agree completely with this. That's why I asked the question. I had a feeling a bunch of people would jump on that idea but I personally think it's crazy until, like you said, we've groomed another backup.
McCarthy's ability to develop quarterbacks is a HUGE area of opportunity for this team in the same way we drafted, developed, and traded quarterbacks behind Favre during Wolf's era.
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xTitan wrote:DrugBust wrote:I'd like to keep Flynn around until the Packers have groomed another capable backup. No way would I give him up for Lynch.
Slaton is an interesting option. I loved him at West Virginia. He was legit his rookie season before falling off the map last year.
Last year the Texans fell in love with Foster because he is a big, fast, 1 cut and go guy, Slaton isn't.....the Packers like big, tough 1 cut and go guys....not sure Slaton would be of interest....listening to McCarthy's presser, you are looking at there running game for the forseeable future.
With the way McCarthy stresses ball security, I doubt we pursue Slaton.
The one reason for optimism is that McCarthy teams have always run the ball a lot better (and are a lot better in general) in the second half of the season. Personally, I think they need to start seeing what they have in Nance, but Thompson and McCarthy are more patient than I am, so it may still be a week or two before we see him really get a shot. With that said, Barry Sanders could've been in the backfield against the Bears on Monday night and would've been shut down for the most part. Clifton and Colledge especially were a joke in the running game.
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From Arrigo on Packer Chatters. Again for discussion only.
Well as of tonight this is what I do know (and can report):
Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy had a 2-3 hour long meeting today with the other front office people. A lot was discussed but they are NOT happy with some of the things that is going on and took place last night. I don't know if anyone's job was discussed, but it was with the teams "brain trust".
Thompson all morning was talking to a few teams about the following players: Marshawn Lynch, Steve Slaton, Michael Bush and DeAngelo Williams.
Williams will be expensive from what I gathered, but the Panthers are going to rebuild and have 4 quality backs in Williams, Stewart, Goodson and Sutton. McCarthy is pushing HARD for Williams since he is only 25 and can be an every down back. I heard they want a player and a 2 for him, and the Packers are discussing it. Don't look for a deal anytime soon.
The Bills are asking for a player and a 2nd or 3rd for Lynch. The two teams talked multiple times today and a little progress was made, but nothing major. The Bills offered Fred Jackson for a 5th, but with Jackson in year 2 of a 4 year 7.5 million dollar deal, the Packers were not as interested in him vs Lynch. Nothing is eminent.
The Texans want a 4th or 5th for Slaton, but he has some fumbling issues and that has help him fall out of favor in Houston. Slaton would be an excellent 3rd down back, but McCarthy told Thompson he wants a "bell cow that can carry the load".
Finally, the Packers called the Raiders and asked about Michael Bush, but they want a 1st or 2nd for him and are not budging off that price tag. It doesn't look like a deal with them will take place at all.


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Out of all of those deals, I think DeAngelo would be the best... Mainly because I think he is by far the best player out of all of them. He's a borderline elite player at RB, IMO.
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Williams is in the last year of his deal I think. Obviously we'd have to pay him but that means we could get him cheaper because I've read the panthers aren't going to pay him.
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Does anyone else recognize how absurd that report is? By using quotes...
...what Arrigo is saying is McCarthy used those exact words. When talking to Ted Thompson.
So he's saying that either he was in the room when it was said, Thompson told him the quote, McCarthy told him the quote, or a coach told him the quote.
How likely are any of those scenarios?
The guy is a clown.
"bell cow that can carry the load"
...what Arrigo is saying is McCarthy used those exact words. When talking to Ted Thompson.

So he's saying that either he was in the room when it was said, Thompson told him the quote, McCarthy told him the quote, or a coach told him the quote.
How likely are any of those scenarios?
The guy is a clown.
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Gives us something to talk about after what had to be the most infuriating game I have ever witnessed.
I don't buy that Thompson trades anything over a 3. I think he might just pop an aneurysm if he had to part with a 1st round draft pick.
I don't buy that Thompson trades anything over a 3. I think he might just pop an aneurysm if he had to part with a 1st round draft pick.
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Just make the Jackson deal if that's all that it costs. I don't believe that's truly what it amounts to, but I'd do that deal in a heartbeat.
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From a journalist that actually doesn't talk out of his ass:
Aaron_Nagler:
@mortreport indicates the Bills are asking for a staring O-lineman and high draft pick for Lynch, a 2nd.
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chuckleslove wrote:From a journalist that actually doesn't talk out of his ass:Aaron_Nagler:
@mortreport indicates the Bills are asking for a staring O-lineman and high draft pick for Lynch, a 2nd.
Mark Tauscher and a pick? Done.
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I'm not giving up Tauscher and a 2nd. If they want Tauscher and a 4th fine.
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chuckleslove wrote:I'm not giving up Tauscher and a 2nd. If they want Tauscher and a 4th fine.
Since I view Tauscher as worthless and my limit on Lynch is a third (which will be pick 86+ likely), I'd do Tauscher/3rd. But I wouldn't give up a 2nd in any circumstance.
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LUKE23 wrote:chuckleslove wrote:I'm not giving up Tauscher and a 2nd. If they want Tauscher and a 4th fine.
Since I view Tauscher as worthless and my limit on Lynch is a third (which will be pick 86+ likely), I'd do Tauscher/3rd. But I wouldn't give up a 2nd in any circumstance.
My stance on the third round pick is that I wouldn't be upset if thats what we traded, but if I was making the call its a 4th round pick, but I wouldn't flip out or be upset if it were a third. I also agree that Tauscher is pretty much a non factor in the value of the trade and the sticking point is the pick.
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I doubt the Bills would consider Tauscher in that category given what he is being paid and the fact that he may be out of football in 5 months.
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I like Williams!!! Not only because he's on my Fantasy team but because of his Age, Skills and contract status. Doesn't sound like anyone can ask more then what the Bills are looking for Lynch for. They want Champ Bailey type return for Lynch. F That.
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I would also much rather have DeAngelo if he is out there. He is A LOT better than Lynch, IMO.
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LOL @ the idea of being able to trade Tauscher for ANYTHING. Dude is done, teams don't trade for players like that.
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