Hassan Whiteside: Before and After

[pillwenney]

Attitude problems, a complete and utter inability to pass the ball (and really that's the only way to explain it ), terrible defensively in pick-and-roll and man-to-man situations., underdeveloped physically...

Whiteside is a BIG TIME project big without the clear-cut upside of a Derrick Favors. He's a less powerful DeAndre Jordan at this point in time.

Now with that being said I think the Kings did good to draft him since they can afford to bring the guy along slowly but just because you get flashy weakside blocks doesn't mean you're going to be a player in the NBA (R.I.P. Sean Williams' career ).

Hmm...must have missed the part where Deandre Jordan averaged 5.4BPG in college.


Hmmm...

[KF10]

Hmm...must have missed the part where Deandre Jordan averaged 5.4BPG in college.


Hmmm...

Oh oh oh! And don't forget Whiteside benched more than DeAndre considering the fact that Whiteside wasn't properly ready to participate activities in the draft combine. He also recorded a higher no step reach vert and max vert than DeAndre!

And he wore flip-flops doing them!

[deNIEd]

Summer league ended what, 2 months ago? These weight things are so exaggerated, you cannot gain anywhere close to 25-30 pounds of MUSCLE in 2 months, end of story. Anyone who actually thinks gaining 25-30 pounds of muscle in 2 months is humanly possible has clearly never worked out seriously. 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months would be very impressive, 10 pounds would be absolutely unreal. With that being said, 5-10 pounds of muscle + 5 pounds of fat + being dehydrated when you weighed yourself 2 months ago + being really hydrated with a big meal in your belly when you weighed yourself today = 25 pound increase. Water weight can cause HUGE fluctuations, just think about boxers cutting for fights, they cut like 15+ lbs of water (from a normally hydrated state, not even super hydrated + big meal) just by sweating like crazy for a few hours. When I used to do landscaping, after a hot day working outside where I wasn't drinking enough water I was sometimes a good 8 lbs lighter than I was in the morning.

Coming from a die hard gym rat, I can believe it.

I don't believe he gained 25 pounds of pure muscle, but I do believe he could have gained 25 pounds.

Also, I'm sure the stress and consistent traveling and uncertainty of the draft/combine caused Whiteside to lose a lot of weight. Also, for anyone that consistently works out, they know how much your weight can fluctuate within a day (how much water you have in you, how much food you have in you, how much you slept the night before, your stress level, etc.)

Suppose Whiteisde was really around a 233, but due to whatever circumstances, only measured in on a low of 225 during combine. But, once he's back to his normal routine, he'll gain those 8 pounds back immediately.

Also, when you lift weights consistently, you starting drinking A LOT more water.

Suppose Whiteside did put on 10 pounds of solid mass, putting him around the 243-245 range...and a daily fluctuation bumping him up to 250 is completely possible.

[BadWolf]

so how is he diffrent form let's say Steven Hunter? Or Saer-Sene?
He can jump and block shots and that's about it for now. A big time project, most likely out of the league in a few years, but if he gets it all together he can be solid role player.

[Cigamodnalro]

so how is he diffrent form let's say Steven Hunter? Or Saer-Sene?
He can jump and block shots and that's about it for now. A big time project, most likely out of the league in a few years, but if he gets it all together he can be solid role player.

He looked good in Summer league. which is more than Steven Hunter could ever say.

[KF10]

so how is he diffrent form let's say Steven Hunter? Or Saer-Sene?
He can jump and block shots and that's about it for now. A big time project, most likely out of the league in a few years, but if he gets it all together he can be solid role player.

Offensively, he is still raw. But even then, he possesses a respectable 15-18 foot jumpshot. And a variety of post moves i.e. variations of hooks. His footwork is surprisingly good considering how raw he is. He still needs a lot of time to develop most of his game.

Saer-Sene was incredibly raw and more of a project than Whiteside. There is no comparison. Whiteside has a better general feel of the game than Sene ever did.

Steven Hunter never really find a role for a team (he bounced around for 5 teams in his career). He is a journey man.

From what I seen, Whiteside is easily going to have a better career than them combined. (assuming healthy and a relative general improvement of Whiteside every year).

[ponder276]

Summer league ended what, 2 months ago? These weight things are so exaggerated, you cannot gain anywhere close to 25-30 pounds of MUSCLE in 2 months, end of story. Anyone who actually thinks gaining 25-30 pounds of muscle in 2 months is humanly possible has clearly never worked out seriously. 5 pounds of muscle in 2 months would be very impressive, 10 pounds would be absolutely unreal. With that being said, 5-10 pounds of muscle + 5 pounds of fat + being dehydrated when you weighed yourself 2 months ago + being really hydrated with a big meal in your belly when you weighed yourself today = 25 pound increase. Water weight can cause HUGE fluctuations, just think about boxers cutting for fights, they cut like 15+ lbs of water (from a normally hydrated state, not even super hydrated + big meal) just by sweating like crazy for a few hours. When I used to do landscaping, after a hot day working outside where I wasn't drinking enough water I was sometimes a good 8 lbs lighter than I was in the morning.

Coming from a die hard gym rat, I can believe it.

I don't believe he gained 25 pounds of pure muscle, but I do believe he could have gained 25 pounds.

Also, I'm sure the stress and consistent traveling and uncertainty of the draft/combine caused Whiteside to lose a lot of weight. Also, for anyone that consistently works out, they know how much your weight can fluctuate within a day (how much water you have in you, how much food you have in you, how much you slept the night before, your stress level, etc.)

Suppose Whiteisde was really around a 233, but due to whatever circumstances, only measured in on a low of 225 during combine. But, once he's back to his normal routine, he'll gain those 8 pounds back immediately.

Also, when you lift weights consistently, you starting drinking A LOT more water.

Suppose Whiteside did put on 10 pounds of solid mass, putting him around the 243-245 range...and a daily fluctuation bumping him up to 250 is completely possible.

This is basically exactly what I'm saying - 5, maybe 10 pounds of lean muscle mass is somewhat possible in 2 months, but you add in large water weight fluctuations and a bit of extra fat (very common to put on some fat when you're bulking) and you can get that up to a 25 lb difference between two specific measurements (one where you were very dehydated, right after practice for example, and one where you were extremely hydrated).

[RunMCR]

Meh it's just water weight..looks that was before practice in the morning or so..I bet he'll be like 243 at the end of it

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[Jaylee209]

The next Dwight Howard in 3 years if he adds 20 more pounds of muscle!

[Harry_Seaward]

I sense the next JJ Hickson.

Potential, potential, potential, raw athleticism, very raw, but not that smart about the game.

[pillwenney]

so how is he diffrent form let's say Steven Hunter? Or Saer-Sene?
He can jump and block shots and that's about it for now. A big time project, most likely out of the league in a few years, but if he gets it all together he can be solid role player.

Those guys had potential to be shotblockers. Hassan is already a shotblocker and he's better on offense than both. Not saying he doesn't still have room to grow or doesn't have bust potential, but there are differences for sure.

[Benedict_Boozer]

I liked this kid in summer league. The Kings are developing a nice little team. Their front-court especially is coming together well.

[pass first]

so how is he diffrent form let's say Steven Hunter? Or Saer-Sene?
He can jump and block shots and that's about it for now. A big time project, most likely out of the league in a few years, but if he gets it all together he can be solid role player.

Offensively, he is still raw. But even then, he possesses a respectable 15-18 foot jumpshot.

He said he beat Tyreke in HORSE in one of his last interviews.

Tyreke had to take it outside the arc.

[Introcollapse]

Oh oh oh! And don't forget Whiteside benched more than DeAndre considering the fact that Whiteside wasn't properly ready to participate activities in the draft combine. He also recorded a higher no step reach vert and max vert than DeAndre!

And he wore flip-flops doing them!

LOL. He gained half an inch in the combine measurements. I remember that well. 6'11" without shoes, 6'11 1/2" with them.

[Introcollapse]

Those guys had potential to be shotblockers. Hassan is already a shotblocker and he's better on offense than both. Not saying he doesn't still have room to grow or doesn't have bust potential, but there are differences for sure.

Imo, you can't be a bust as a second round pick.

[Wolfay]

Of course Hassan is a project, but that's still a lot more than you can normally hope for from a second round pick.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Dude is a nut job... I don't remember exactly what about his interview with Utah... but dude is really, really off.

[SadKingsFan]

Meh it's just water weight..looks that was before practice in the morning or so..I bet he'll be like 243 at the end of it

Kings frontcourt>>>> Warriors. Just sayin...

[SacKingZZZ]

Dude is a nut job... I don't remember exactly what about his interview with Utah... but dude is really, really off.

I thought the same thing too and then came to find out this kid is really, really goofy. So I'm not so sure how much is an "act" or real. I think it's a combination of a really odd sense of humor, lack of maturity, and lack of, well... you know.