Marshawn Lynch traded to Seahawks for 4th + conditional pick

[Marley2Hendrix]

Well Iceness, I remember reading time and time again that "The Buffalo Bills ARE NOT discussing trades for Marshawn Lynch".

I saw Ward doing alright this past week... For the right price, anyone is available and GB has been linked to Slaton (although I'd be the 1st to admit the sources are less than reputable).

Anyway, no backup is off the market for any team sir.

[SpReEfOrAlL]

This really is a slap in the face here. I really think this is TT's arrogance at play. I am sorry, we are not deep or good enough to just "plug in anyone" at RB. Both Jackson and Kuhn are complete bums. I don't know which one starts really, but i know they are most likely the worst starting RB in the league. How can you claim to be committed to winning if you don't do everything you can to fix that?

[paulpressey25]

I see Twirl owning this thread......

TT is reminding me of Principal Skinner trying to drive the schoolbus in that SImpsons episode. You can't sit at the intersection all day. At some point you've got to turn out into the traffic to get the kids home.

It is fine if Lynch isn't your guy and you are concerned about character issues. But then you've got to make a deal for a different guy. Every year you have these vets like Thomas Jones or LaDanian who still have a good year or two left in them. No reason why TT can't bring one of those guys in each year.

[Kerb Hohl]

It is fine if Lynch isn't your guy and you are concerned about character issues. But then you've got to make a deal for a different guy. Every year you have these vets like Thomas Jones or LaDanian who still have a good year or two left in them. No reason why TT can't bring one of those guys in each year.

Yeah I see a reason. Before the year we had Ryan Grant and an assumed decent #2 in Jackson or maybe Starks. Those guys got signed and we didn't need them. Now we're forced to trade. I'm not sure TT wanted to give up a 3rd+ for Lynch and I'm not sure there is much else out there right now.

[paulpressey25]

Eh, Ryan Grant is the Michael Redd of running backs. Does a few things statistically well but can't do some other very important things. If you aren't trying to replace that guy every year or at least have a veteran backup, you aren't doing your job. Let's face it, in five years TT has pretty much struck out in filling out the backfield with some real talent.

[Mags FTW]

So is there anybody left that thinks TT drove Favre out of town by not bringing in players to put around him? If yes, do you think he's now trying to push Rodgers out of here?

[El Duderino]

Eh, Ryan Grant is the Michael Redd of running backs. Does a few things statistically well but can't do some other very important things. If you aren't trying to replace that guy every year or at least have a veteran backup, you aren't doing your job. Let's face it, in five years TT has pretty much struck out in filling out the backfield with some real talent.

I think you underrate Grant as a player and how well he fit in a clear pass first offense.

[Siefer]

Eh, Ryan Grant is the Michael Redd of running backs. Does a few things statistically well but can't do some other very important things. If you aren't trying to replace that guy every year or at least have a veteran backup, you aren't doing your job. Let's face it, in five years TT has pretty much struck out in filling out the backfield with some real talent.

Your continued bashing of Ryan Grant is baffling. On what grounds do you base your claims? Gut feeling? The Chinese Zodiac? Seriously, PP, no one is saying that Grant is elite, but he's been very good, and just about every statistic backs it up. The strongest legitimate argument there is against him is that he's virtually non-existent in the passing game, and while that is valid, you also have to account for the fact that the passing game is the least important aspect of the game that this team needs Grant in.

You can disregard a mountain of data and rational argument if you want, but then you also have to acknowledge that your opinion is based on sheer whim.

[paulpressey25]

Ryan Grant is fine as a stop-gap. Is our problem at running back because Grant was so good he was on the level of an elite back. Or is Grant going down a problem because TT doesn't have any quality depth to replace him?

I'd say it is the latter. Wolf always kept a quality guy in reserve to push the starter, whether it was Reggie Cobb and Dorsey on Edgar or then bringing in Ahman as Dorsey wound down.

I'm just spoiled from watching really good all around RB's here like Ahman, Dorsey and even Edgar Bennett. I'd like my QB and my offense to have a guy who can get the 1,200 yards and also catch 40-50 balls out of the backfield.

And if my RB can't be an all around guy, then I want him to be elite as it relates to a ground rusher and/or guy with a nose for the end-zone.

Just realize I'm judging the Packers and TT on the Super Bowl caliber standard. Again he's a good GM and Grant is a decent back. But if your goal is the Super Bowl......

[humanrefutation]

I just don't understand what TT is afraid of. If he traded a 4th for Lynch and Lynch was somehow worse than BJ, would any of us really blame him?

Just go out and get something done. I just need TT to step up and show the fans and the rest of the league that we're going for it. A statement trade. Something to fire up the team and the fanbase. Acquiring Lynch would have done that.

[xTitan]

grant is fine as a stop gap and you bring up fossils like Thomas Jones and LT??...I am all for trading 4th for a d-bag like Lynch or at least find some quality stop gap...but I wouldn't touch aback over 30 and come close to relying on him.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Would I love to have Lynch on this team? Sure, but time will tell if this can fairly be discussed as an example of Thompson being stubborn. Lynch could bomb or get in trouble or Nance, who we gave up nothing for, could end up approximately as good. Is saying "time will tell" a cop-out? Yes, but I say that because Thompson has generally (not always) earned the benefit of the doubt in my mind. Last time he grabbed a running back some team didn't really want that badly, the guy sat on the bench learning the system for a couple of weeks and then propelled our dormant running game into one of the best for the remainder of the season.

[paulpressey25]

you bring up fossils like Thomas Jones and LT??

I'm thinking of Jones from a couple years back when the Bears got some good productivity out of him.

Wolf kept pulling in RB's from all over, draft/FA/trades, because he knew the position was a revolving door. Heck, he traded for Eric Dickerson at one point early on in his career.

I'd just like him to bring in a vet every season on a flyer. The Pats got a 1,600 yard season out of Corey Dillion after his original team threw in the towel on him. The move might not work. But at least you've got something if your preferred starter goes down.

At goes back to our ongoing debate and TT's complete aversion to veterans. We've always got to use either his draftees or cheap young guys like Vernand Morency, Dmitri Nance, Gado, etc.

[Newz]

Can we stop saying we could have got him for a 4th with the conditional picks?

For the Packers to get Lynch they would have had to give up a 3rd with a conditional 4th/5th in order to trump the Seahawks if they wanted all things to be equal.

[dedned]

Can we stop saying we could have got him for a 4th with the conditional picks?

For the Packers to get Lynch they would have had to give up a 3rd with a conditional 4th/5th in order to trump the Seahawks if they wanted all things to be equal.

why?

[Newz]

Can we stop saying we could have got him for a 4th with the conditional picks?

For the Packers to get Lynch they would have had to give up a 3rd with a conditional 4th/5th in order to trump the Seahawks if they wanted all things to be equal.

why?

Because if the Seahwks offer a 4th and conditional 5th/6th the following year and the Packers offer a 4th and a conditional 5th/6th the following year... I am under the assumption Buffalo believes that the Packers record will be better. So why would they take our offer? Unless you think that Buffalo believes Lynch is going to lead Seattle to a better record than Green Bay the next two seasons.

[DH34Phan]

I would have given Buffalo our 3rd this year and our 5th next year for Lynch.

TT sure does value his draft picks.

[LUKE23]

Packers cornerback Charles Woodson was asked today on the Jim Rome radio show what the thought about the Packers not trading for former Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch:

"I thought with the way things shaked out with our team it would be a logical thing for us to do to get another big-time back like Marshawn Lynch. And it didn't pan out," Woodson said. "For players, there's nothing you can do but go out there and play football with the guys you've got."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/104431638.html

[dedned]

Packers cornerback Charles Woodson was asked today on the Jim Rome radio show what the thought about the Packers not trading for former Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch:

"I thought with the way things shaked out with our team it would be a logical thing for us to do to get another big-time back like Marshawn Lynch. And it didn't pan out," Woodson said. "For players, there's nothing you can do but go out there and play football with the guys you've got."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/104431638.html

DIVA!

[-Jragon-]

Underrated and connected move:

Julius Jones was cut by Seattle to make room for Lynch and it wasn't injury related.

Look up his stats and you'll see that (**edit) his stats are very similar to Lynch.