How are they going to stop us

[RapsGirl]

Completely disagree i think bosh is what will make this team win by playing inside the paint.

In my opinion, Heat fans who have bought into the "Big 3" media hype will be in for a letdown with Bosh, who might be the most overrated forward in the league. Bosh isn't known for his defense, and has a reputation as being soft. On a team with Wade and Lebron, Bosh will be a role player who will go along for the ride.

As dominant as Wade and LBJ can be, unless the Heat develop a dominant inside game, they won't beat Boston or LA. The Lakers are a huge mismatch for most teams because they have three seven footers, plus a bruiser, plus Kobe. Kobe would negate either Wade or LBJ, while Artest's defense would hold down the other. But Miami would have little to stop Bynum, Odom,and Gasol from dominating the paint.

in my opinion, those of you who have bought into the "Bosh is soft/overrated" BS will be in for a major surprise this season. Bosh came into this league as a defense minded player....but had the role of 'franchise player/lead scorer' thrown on him the day Vince left. Bosh is not & probably will never fall into the psycho-KG category defensively...but he is more than capable of playing solid defense and getting you stops. and if any Raptors fans wish to be 'real'....they'll admit that he helped to come up with timely/clutch rebounds and blocks.

this is Chris' time to show what else he can provide outside of scoring. i believe he is going to have a career year in rebounds while his ppg will slip. he is not the defensive sieve that people are making him out to be. it's amazing how they discount his scoring by putting it into context ("well...he WAS the best player in Toronto...of course the offense ran through him"), but refuse to put his defense into context as well.

i am going to enjoy watching him blossom & raise the other parts of his game now that he no longer needs to carry the offensive load.

[andre316]

I have been watching videos of Wade and Lebron on youtube the last few hours and I am just wondering how in the hell are teams going to be able to stop these 2 guys?

There's only one basketball.

In the late 70's Philly had Dr.J, George McGinnis, Doug Collins, and World B Free, all of which were fantastic scorers. But they didn't win the title because basketball is a team game with only one basketball.

Having multiple elite offensive talents, especially when they're as versatile as these guys, forces defenses to be honest and not over-commit to any one of them. These guys can all handle the ball but also play excellently off it, from multiple places on the floor. That's where the trouble lies for other teams, trying to account for so many possibilities that they're bound to make mistakes or guess wrong.

[HoopsPro]

Although Bynum is currently injured, when the Lakers are healthy they present more matchup problems than any team in the league. They have three seven footers who often times play on the court at the same time, along with Kobe and Artest.

Somebody asked how do you stop the Heat ?...well, you put the Lakers on the floor, that's how.

[dflash3]

Although Bynum is currently injured, when the Lakers are healthy they present more matchup problems than any team in the league. They have three seven footers who often times play on the court at the same time, along with Kobe and Artest.

Somebody asked how do you stop the Heat ?...well, you put the Lakers on the floor, that's how.

It took the Lakers 7 games to beat the old Boston Celtics that many didn't even expect to make to the ECF, and they ended up beating them after Perkins went down in game 7. Had Perkins not gone down it could have very well been the Boston Celtics who would be the champions, so the Heat should be a lot more scared of the Celtics than the Lakers. The Celtics are in the Heat's conference, and they will be who they have to get through to reach the championships. Also, there isn't a significant difference between the talent level of the Celtics and the Lakers.

The Heat have split their match ups against the Lakers the last two years with the games decided by at most 3 points despite the Lakers having far superior talent and height at their positions. On paper, the Lakers should have destroyed the Heat's front court and won by double digits, but the Heat have shown an ability to hold their own against the squad despite being outmatched. That hasn't been the case against Boston.

[HarryBagpipe]

LOL... you mention bosh is soft and than talk about Gasol who is as soft as tissue paper. Until he went to LA he was a worse version than Bosh. He scored about 18-20 ppg and was always on a losing team. Suddenly he goes to a championship caliber team and hes the best PF in the game.

silly homers

[HoopsPro]

I doubt we'll ever get to see the Heat and Lakers in the finals this year because for that to happen the Heat would first have to beat the Celtics. And the Celtics are a better team this year than last year. Early reports suggest KG is healthier than he's been in years. And Shaq and JO are out to prove Riley wrong.

I think all you Heat fans need to cool off for a few months and see how things play out before you start celebrating.

[ifrosty13]

LOL! I think you need to be reasonable.

[nonemus]

I doubt we'll ever get to see the Heat and Lakers in the finals this year because for that to happen the Heat would first have to beat the Celtics. And the Celtics are a better team this year than last year. Early reports suggest KG is healthier than he's been in years. And Shaq and JO are out to prove Riley wrong.

I think all you Heat fans need to cool off for a few months and see how things play out before you start celebrating.

Has he been time traveling?

[dflash3]

I doubt we'll ever get to see the Heat and Lakers in the finals this year because for that to happen the Heat would first have to beat the Celtics. And the Celtics are a better team this year than last year. Early reports suggest KG is healthier than he's been in years. And Shaq and JO are out to prove Riley wrong.

I think all you Heat fans need to cool off for a few months and see how things play out before you start celebrating.

First you bring up how the Lakers are going to beat the Heat and after I pointed out that the Celtics are a better and more difficult challenge your stance has now changed to focusing on the Celtics. If it isn't the Celtics it will be the Magic. If it isn't the Magic it will be the Bulls, and so on. I have reasonable expectations, so until the Heat can prove that they are as good as they are on paper I'm not going to be announcing any victories prematurely.

However, given the talent the Heat have accumulated and the positions they have upgraded, it is also incredibly ignorant and close minded to just assume that the Heat aren't even capable of matching up with the elite teams in the league when they haven't even been given an opportunity to prove or disprove themselves yet.

It is clear that regardless of the circumstances, you just want any reason to criticize the Heat and have something negative to say about their roster, organization, and players. Any additions they may make to improve some of their weakness will be conveniently ignored, and instead arguments will be centered around why the Heat won't win. You have nothing positive to say about the Heat, and have no intention of spending your time giving them some praise for what they have/will accomplish. Any post you have/will make will be on why the Heat fall short. If the Heat do defy your bold prediction and somehow end up miraculously winning you will spend your time trying to discredit their victory.

[Mind Bullets]

I doubt we'll ever get to see the Heat and Lakers in the finals this year because for that to happen the Heat would first have to beat the Celtics. And the Celtics are a better team this year than last year. Early reports suggest KG is healthier than he's been in years. And Shaq and JO are out to prove Riley wrong.

I think all you Heat fans need to cool off for a few months and see how things play out before you start celebrating.

Shaq - 38 and just about finished.

K.G. - 34 with a wrecked knee.

Pierce - 33 and slowing down.

Allen - 35 and slowing down.

J.O. - 32 with wrecked knees.

Perkins - his MCL/PCL are shot...he probably wont be right all season.

Rondo - still cant shoot.

Tony Allen - the Celtics only athletic perimeter defender and they let him go.

Dont give me any of that K.G. looks like the K.G. of old BS! Get back to me when he makes it to the playoffs completely healthy, and with a full gas tank.

[HoopsPro]

First you bring up how the Lakers are going to beat the Heat and after I pointed out that the Celtics are a better and more difficult challenge your stance has now changed to focusing on the Celtics. If it isn't the Celtics it will be the Magic. If it isn't the Magic it will be the Bulls, and so on.

As a Bulls fan, I post on the Bulls forum all the time and have said over and over that the Bulls aren't an elite team. At best, the Bulls will be the fourth or fifth seed in the east. But I've also said the Heat will have trouble with Boston and Orlando. Boston has the deepest roster in the NBA, has championship experience, and has a bone to pick with the three egos. Orlando has the most dominant player in the league, but the rest of the team is full of creampuffs, so it's hard to say what they will do. The Lakers have won two titles in a row, and until somebody shows me that they can beat the Lakers, I'm picking them for the threepeat.

[dflash3]

First you bring up how the Lakers are going to beat the Heat and after I pointed out that the Celtics are a better and more difficult challenge your stance has now changed to focusing on the Celtics. If it isn't the Celtics it will be the Magic. If it isn't the Magic it will be the Bulls, and so on.

As a Bulls fan, I post on the Bulls forum all the time and have said over and over that the Bulls aren't an elite team. At best, the Bulls will be the fourth or fifth seed in the east. But I've also said the Heat will have trouble with Boston and Orlando. Boston has the deepest roster in the NBA, has championship experience, and has a bone to pick with the three egos. Orlando has the most dominant player in the league, but the rest of the team is full of creampuffs, so it's hard to say what they will do. The Lakers have won two titles in a row, and until somebody shows me that they can beat the Lakers, I'm picking them for the threepeat.

Most of us on this forum already know you will pick any elite team over the Heat. You have made it clear in every single post you have made here and will continue to make. Whether you speak about the topic rationally or irrationally everyone knows you just enjoy talking about how the Heat will fall short which is the only reason you even bother to post on the Heat board. All the points you have made are ones I and other objective Heat fans have made in the past to keep expectations for this squad from getting out of control. However, you just repeat the same points for the sake of saying why the Heat aren't deserving of the hype or how they will falter. You have presented your posts in a mature manner, but the repeat posts are getting just as tiresome as a blatant troll.

[HoopsPro]

Most of us on this forum already know you will pick any elite team over the Heat. You have made it clear in every single post you have made here and will continue to make. Whether you speak about the topic rationally or irrationally everyone knows you just enjoy talking about how the Heat will fall short which is the only reason you even bother to post on the Heat board. All the points you have made are ones I and other objective Heat fans have made in the past to keep expectations for this squad from getting out of control. However, you just repeat the same points for the sake of saying why the Heat aren't deserving of the hype or how they will falter. You have presented your posts in a mature manner, but the repeat posts are getting just as tiresome as a blatant troll.

If the Heat are as great as some of you think, they will win and some of you will be proven correct. But the fact that some of you continue to create irrational threads based on wild speculation, media hype, and homerism suggests to the readers that you aren't the brightest basketball fans on the planet.

[dflash3]

If the Heat are as great as some of you think, they will win and some of you will be proven correct. But the fact that some of you continue to create irrational threads based on wild speculation, media hype, and homerism suggests to the readers that you aren't the brightest basketball fans on the planet.

This may be incredibly shocking, but this is a Miami Heat board where Heat fans discuss their team with wild abandon and homerism. Every single thread will be about wild speculations about their squad, expectations, and hype just like any other team board on realgm. On the Bulls board there are threads and "wild speculative and irrational threads" about when Rose will be the best PG in the NBA or excitement about players like James Johnson learning from Pippen or even a thread about how the Bulls are better than the Heat. Of course, not all Bull fans on the forum are irrational, but even if they were I wouldn't feel the impulse to "correct them." Those type of discussions from excited fans are what is to be expected from any team board. You have absolutely no reason to keep intruding in here and trying to police this board when your board isn't any better. Plus, due to all the irrational hatred towards the Heat, posters here are just countering with some of their own sentiments. If you really are so dedicated to maintaining an objective and sane standard on all team boards on realgm start with the Knicks first.

If the general, player comparison, or other team boards were being invaded by irrational Heat fans then that would definitely be a situation where you can complain about homerism. Acting all high and mighty like the Bulls board is the epitome of objective basketball discussion is just laughable. A team board is like a sports bar where like minded posters discuss their favorite team. I would equate you to the Fundmental Westboro Baptists who are incredibly irritating, but due to expressing and trolling within the confines of the laws set forth nobody can remove them from the premise.

And lets face it. You aren't here because you were so bothered by "irrational threads based on wild speculation". You just enjoy slighting the Heat whenever you talk about them and it really doesn't matter what team would be able to defeat the Heat. You will gladly use them in any arguments you continue to make even if it isn't the Bulls.

[ifrosty13]

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winner, by unanymous decision, dflash3!

[BFRESH44]

HoopsPro, please check your PM.

[Heat_FinsFan]

haha...

[Rodrizzle]

Na Na na na heeeeeeeyyy Goodbye!!!!

[DWadeno3]

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.

[truthiness]

Well, the Magic will funnel those players into Dwight Howard, in order to take advantage of his shotblocking ability. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWjnvYfo6og Yes, the Heat will drive at him to draw fouls but they're still going to have some shots blocked. And you still need to consider how well the Heat will defend. No one's writing them off as a bad defensive team but they still have to demonstrate they can guard the elite teams if they want a title.

HOW TO BEAT THE MAGIC:

might have said this before, but for all those saying dwight would be enough to stop the heat, i think not.

i watched the entire playoff series between the magic and the bobcats, and despite the magic sweeping the bobcats, the games were actually very very close up to the end. it was just that the bobcats didn't have anyone good enough to carry them in the finals minutes.

keep in mind the bobcats had ratliff starting at 5, yet they still pretty much neutralized dwight. they had their wing players, especially jax and gerald wallace continuously attacking the rim. they took dwight out of the game quite early in each game, it's just that they couldn't take advantage of it.

now i like jax and i REALLY like crash, but wade and lebron are way WAY better and more athletic - and better shooters. the heat just has to use the same strategy to get dwight in foul trouble. then, unlike the bobcats, they still have more shooters + bosh to take advantage of dwight being out and score in the paint.

that's on offense. on D stick to their shooters and put a big body on dwight. do what perkins did: play him aggressive and physical. push him a lot. send him to the line. and if he gets 40, so be it. just don't let jameer and lewis light you up from 3 and you still win.