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Denver rejected Melo for Kaman-based deal.

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Re: Denver rejected Melo for Kaman-based deal. 

Post#21 » by PlinkingPanda » Sat Oct 9, 2010 2:25 am

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DangerCurtis wrote:I'm not the smartest guy when it comes to basketball trades, but I really don't want to see Kaman + 1 go for Melo. Melo has one season left on his contract, and if Lala's influence on him is really that strong, we can sign next season. Similarly, if we show a tremendous amount of improvement, I think it'll be a no brainer where future free agents should sign.


Not only that, but that would leave us with a huge gaping hole at center. I'd rather keep Kaman and have decent players like Butler/Gomes/Aminu than have Melo cover our hole at SF and have a much larger hole at center with only DJ. Centers are much harder to come by, and unless we get someone like Chris Anderson in return I don't see the trade being worth it.


Are you kidding me? If we have the chance to get one of the best pure scorers in the league, it's easily worth giving up Kaman. Don't forget that Melo also avgs 7 boards, only 2 less than Kaman. Plus he's a good passer, improved defender, and one of the best clutch performers in the league. Melo/DJ > Kaman/Gomes.

A lineup of Baron/EJ/Melo/Griffin/DJ would be insane.


No I'm not kidding. This isn't about statistics. It's about depth. There's no way in hell DeAndre is capable of holding the starting center position. He wasn't even capable of being a solid backup last season. If there was more depth at C then it would be an obvious choice to make, but like I said the hole at C would be much greater after this trade than it would be with our current hole at SF. Gomes and Butler are at least players capable of being rotational players, DeAndre hasn't proven that at all. Having DeAndre and Voshkul taking up minutes at center would be a complete joke.
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Re: Denver rejected Melo for Kaman-based deal. 

Post#22 » by Det the Threat » Sat Oct 9, 2010 7:13 am

scoobs07 wrote:The Clippers need to go all out and try to get him. He lives
In L.A. so the clippers atleast have a shot and getting the superstar that they need. The clippers have put themselves in a Position where they need to make a trade like this. They need a marketable player just to compete in this economy. Not only is he marketable but he is a homicide 30 point scorer and go to guy. clips should do whatever it takes. Maybe kaman/gordan/amino
For Anthony/Anderson or kaman/gordan/1st for Anthony/afflalo. So if u do the anthony/anderson deal, fans could go see "melo" and "birdman".' sure, maybe they are over paying a little bit but, the Clippers need to do this for the sake of the franchise. Nobody wants to pay money to go see kaman/ gordan. I mean, come on. It's a no brainer, really. They need to make a splash and solidify a franchise player, especially with the league possibaly adding incentives for free agents to resign with their own teams in this next CBA. The clips would still have the minisota's pick to use next year and would have depth at shooting guard still with butler, foye, Warren and blakely.


No, we shouldn't give up all that for Anthony.

Of course he's one of the premier players of this league, but it's not just about talent, it's also about contracts what makes the value of players.

He's only got one more year left on his contract and pretty much told them that he's gone anyways next summer.
That drops his trading value by a mile and should have him available for less than what you're suggesting here.

Also, giving up Kaman wouldn't make any sense at all(especially if we don't get a capable center in return), cause we don't have anyone else on this roster being able to hold his own as a starting center. Sure we've still got DJ, but he's no way ready to be a starting center in this league and hasn't shown any real improvement since his rookie season.
Adding Gorden and maybe even something else on top of Kaman would be ridiculous, because Anthony isn't worth all of that while only being under contract for one more season.

So you start with a package sourrounding Gorden, pick and some fillers and if that ain't possible(financially) you might give up a packe including Kaman and picks, but only if you can get at least one of their rotation bigs(most likely Chris Anderson) in return.

If that doesn't convince them, you just move on and see what our current squad can do.


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No I'm not kidding. This isn't about statistics. It's about depth. There's no way in hell DeAndre is capable of holding the starting center position. He wasn't even capable of being a solid backup last season. If there was more depth at C then it would be an obvious choice to make, but like I said the hole at C would be much greater after this trade than it would be with our current hole at SF. Gomes and Butler are at least players capable of being rotational players, DeAndre hasn't proven that at all. Having DeAndre and Voshkul taking up minutes at center would be a complete joke.


+1

We'd probably have Voskuhl, one of those camp invitees or some low level free agent(or guy we'd trade for) starting at center in January, at the latest.
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Re: Denver rejected Melo for Kaman-based deal. 

Post#23 » by HMFFL » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:01 pm

RiversideClips wrote:This is why I think the Clippers will get Melo in the end. LaLa wants 2 b back on T.V. & the Clips have all the ingredients to offer. I think this whole Trade Melo in 4 days, was Denver just testing the market to see what they could get.
Don't be surprised if Melo is wearing Clipper gear opening Nite.


I believe LaLa would obviously like more t.v. deals, but I think the media is running with the connection with L.A. since LaLa is best friends with Kim Kardashian.
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Re: Denver rejected Melo for Kaman-based deal. 

Post#24 » by BoomFizzle » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:23 pm

Giving up Gordon instead of Kaman would be better in the short run but im not sure if its completely worth it. A starting line up like:

Baron/Butler/Melo/Griffin/Kaman >> Baron/Gordon/Melo/Griffin/Jordan

Im not a huge Gordon fan but Im also not a fan at all of Melo.

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