O.T. .::THE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY THREAD::.

[gavran]

^They're actually exploring and theorizing on a set of Drives that will use Folded Space to travel. It would literally make such long distance travel like walking across the street.

--Mags

They are also exploring teleportation and wormhole travel, but it doesn't mean it will ever be possible. We don't even know if the laws of physics permit that.
EDIT: But the biggest problem is the insane amount of energy it requires, and we simply just don't have it. We already know, that fossil fuel won't get us far. Solar wind is nice, but it will only help in our system, nuclear energy is limited, and we're not even sure controlled thermonucler fusion can be made. Even if we one day discover it, it'll still need and insane amount of hidrogene for us to travel to the nearest star. I doubt interstellar travel is possible.

[Deeeez Knicks]

No prob my man, thanks for the assist to by providing Deeez with the Yahoo article I was referring to.

Btw, PM the link to your response in this Thread when you get back...I look forward to reading it, but will likely miss it if you don't PM me the link to the post.

--Mags

P.S. Yeah, we likely might. I wouldn't be surprised though if we end up with rapid expansion into Space around 2050 or so. Ion Drives are already getting a lot of steam with advancements and it's only 2010. Who knows when the next Drive breakthrough will come not too long after that.

Yeah someone posted an article on page 31

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1016197&start=450

Its really crazy to have finally find an earth like discussion.

We are going to have to think out of the box in order for distant space travel to be reality. There are just so many obstacles that prevent present day technology from even dreaming of deep space travel. From the cost, to fuel, to even muscle fatigue. It might be all in the hands of the private sectar as we have not really accomplished much in terms of government sponsored human space travel.

I think we should focus on having a station on the moon and making that a launch pad to the cosmos. Low gravity, hardly any atmosphere to escape, plenty of water to possibly create fuel. It would ease some of the problems.

The biggest problem is there is no profit. Nobody wants to pay for the research and funding since we are talking about billions of dollars. But nobody wanted to pay for Christopher Columbus's voyage.

[j4remi]

I think we are one or two major breakthroughs from exploring new galaxies, be that using remote controlled vehicles like the Mars rover or actual human exploration...I believe in our lifetime the technology to travel lightyears will be available, but I'm sure that new problems will arise with any advances. The theories are alive and well though, and plentiful enough that something should spark the movement.

[magnumt]

^Agreed.

Like the Industrial Revolution, or the major breakthroughs in the 60's...it will likely happen in a chain reaction over quite a few Years. Where one Breakthrough, leads to another, and another...and when you combine these breakthroughs across multiple fields and industries, you get the next stage of our advancement.

--Mags

[magnumt]

Medical History being made:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/geron-corp-begins-embryonic-stem-cell-treatment-patient/story?id=11853497

Medical Milestone: Genetics Company Begins First Embryonic Stem-Cell Treatment on Patient
First Study to Focus on How Patient With Spinal Cord Injuries Will React to Treatment
By DAVID WRIGHT and DAN CHILDS
Oct. 11, 2010

For years, scientists have held out the promise that embryonic stem cells could repair damaged spinal cords and cure other serious ailments.

Scientists today got one step closer to making that promise a reality as they began an embryonic stem-cell treatment on a patient with spinal cord injuries. It is the first time a medical therapy has been used on a human in a government approved study.

"This is the dawn of a new era in medical therapeutics. We are leaving behind the days of using pills to treat symptoms, and entering a new era where we're using living human cells to permanently restore organ function damaged by a disease or an injury," said Tom O'Karma, president and CEO of Geron Corporation, the company conducting the trial.

It's a cautious start. Scientists from Geron injected the first human subject Friday at the Sheperd Center, a 132-bed spinal cord and brain injury rehabilitation hospital and clinical research center in Atlanta -- one of seven potential sites in the country that can enroll patients in the new clinical trial for the therapy. The company says it will add eight to 10 additional patients to the other national sites in the next year.

The company won Food and Drug Administration approval after showing promising results in lab rats. Rodents with little use of their back legs and tails were able to walk again within weeks; the embryonic stem cells helped repair their damaged nervous system.

For now the company is playing down expectations in the human trial.

"We can only admit one patient a month for the first few patients, so it will take about six months to a year before we have enough rigorous data to be able to say something about safety and any possible efficacy that we detect," O'Karma said.

Click the link above for the full Article.

On a related note, Israel is also beginning trials on Stem Cell ALS Treatment.

Times are a progressing!

--Mags

[rsavaj]

Point is there is no 100% FACTS with alot of these things. People just need to chalk it up to WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE. Nobody can prove the Big Bang is 100% fact, same with Evolution, same with GOD!!

DOWN WITH EVILUTION!

I think you're confusing scientific "theory" with colloquial "theory".

Do you "believe" in Newton's "Theory" of gravitation?

[rsavaj]

Medical History being made:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/geron-corp-begins-embryonic-stem-cell-treatment-patient/story?id=11853497

Medical Milestone: Genetics Company Begins First Embryonic Stem-Cell Treatment on Patient
First Study to Focus on How Patient With Spinal Cord Injuries Will React to Treatment
By DAVID WRIGHT and DAN CHILDS
Oct. 11, 2010

For years, scientists have held out the promise that embryonic stem cells could repair damaged spinal cords and cure other serious ailments.

Scientists today got one step closer to making that promise a reality as they began an embryonic stem-cell treatment on a patient with spinal cord injuries. It is the first time a medical therapy has been used on a human in a government approved study.

"This is the dawn of a new era in medical therapeutics. We are leaving behind the days of using pills to treat symptoms, and entering a new era where we're using living human cells to permanently restore organ function damaged by a disease or an injury," said Tom O'Karma, president and CEO of Geron Corporation, the company conducting the trial.

It's a cautious start. Scientists from Geron injected the first human subject Friday at the Sheperd Center, a 132-bed spinal cord and brain injury rehabilitation hospital and clinical research center in Atlanta -- one of seven potential sites in the country that can enroll patients in the new clinical trial for the therapy. The company says it will add eight to 10 additional patients to the other national sites in the next year.

The company won Food and Drug Administration approval after showing promising results in lab rats. Rodents with little use of their back legs and tails were able to walk again within weeks; the embryonic stem cells helped repair their damaged nervous system.

For now the company is playing down expectations in the human trial.

"We can only admit one patient a month for the first few patients, so it will take about six months to a year before we have enough rigorous data to be able to say something about safety and any possible efficacy that we detect," O'Karma said.

Click the link above for the full Article.

On a related note, Israel is also beginning trials on Stem Cell ALS Treatment.

Times are a progressing!

--Mags

Excellent news

[ComboGuardCity]

This thread reminds me of the show Big Bang Theory

Kidding aside, interesting article. A stem cell breakthrough would be huge.

[magnumt]

@rsavaj: Indeed! So far trial runs will run 1 Year with Humans, at 1 per Month...and they've been sucessful in rats who were paralyzed and can now walk again Days later.

@Combo: Yep, Europe has been a big promoter at this in various Regions. The ALS research mentioned above too, looks promising as well.

--Mags

[Marty McFly]

@rsavaj: Indeed! So far trial runs will run 1 Year with Humans, at 1 per Month...and they've been sucessful in rats who were paralyzed and can now walk again Days later.

--Mags

[method]

So did anyone hear they shut down an airport in China for an hour because of UFO's in the sky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5DwFtFhyM

[Deeeez Knicks]

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1929 ... index.html

This is great news for space travel. Like most other technologys, space travel will be slow to advance unless private companys can make a consistent profit. This is a big first step.

If people successfully travel on the first few flights to space and they make a profit, more flights get booked, rival companys form, prices go down, more people trave into spacel, space hotels open up, companys compete for better technology, and space travel starts advancing exponentially.

Profit advances technology quicker then anything.

Commercial Spacecraft Completes First Manned Flight

Posted on: Monday, 11 October 2010, 09:15 CDT

Virgin Galactic's SpaceShipTwo (SS2), the world's first commercial spacecraft, successfully completed its first solo manned flight on Sunday, the company behind the vehicle's development has announced.

"This was one of the most exciting days in the whole history of Virgin," added Sir Richard Branson, the founder of the company. "For the first time since we seriously began the project in 2004, I watched the world’s first manned commercial spaceship landing on the runway at Mojave Air and Space Port and it was a great moment. Now, the sky is no longer the limit and we will begin the process of pushing beyond to the final frontier of space itself over the next year."


"We're not far off booking out our first year of operations," Stephen Attenborough, head of astronaut relations, added in an interview with BBC News. "We'll see exactly how many we decide to fly in year one, but the intention has always been around 500. We're well on our way to that."....

[ITGM]

Project Blue Beam / Blue Book is in full effect!



Google them

[magnumt]

So, between the China story last Week and this one yesterday...I'm surprised no one has brought this up:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/14/earlyshow/main6957279.shtml

UFO over Manhattan Caught on Tape
Was Mystery Shiny Object Superman? Balloon? Looking for Its Mother Ship?!

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(CBS) A mysterious shiny, silvery object floating high over Manhattan Wednesday had even jaded New Yorkers scratching their heads.

Dozens of people were stopped in the middle of the sidewalks of the Chelsea neighborhood on Manhattan's West Side, looking up in the sky.

One speculated it was a balloon, another joked that it was Superman or Superwoman, and yet another wondered whether whatever it was was simply "looking for the mother ship!"

The city says its 311 help line got dozens of calls about the object.

And city officials haven't provided any answers about what it might have been - though they're said to be leaning toward the balloon camp.

Erica Hill told the story on "The Early Show"

Watch the Video here: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6957293n

--Mags

[j4remi]

WOAH, I didn't see that video, great post!

[magnumt]

WOAH, I didn't see that video, great post!

Thanks...yeah, all over the news yesterday.

Ofcourse, it's a "weather balloon" says the experts.

--Mags

[gavran]

WOAH, I didn't see that video, great post!

Thanks...yeah, all over the news yesterday.

Ofcourse, it's a "weather balloon" says the experts.

--Mags

Come on man, that even looked like a baloon.

[magnumt]

^Did I really need to use Green Font?

[gavran]

^Did I really need to use Green Font?

You could've, but my answer would have been the same. That looks like 3 bundeled up balloons, no need to look for something that's not there. Noone in their right mind would build flying machine in the shape of a sphere, it would never work.

[method]

^Did I really need to use Green Font?

You could've, but my answer would have been the same. That looks like 3 bundeled up balloons, no need to look for something that's not there. Noone in their right mind would build flying machine in the shape of a sphere, it would never work.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ufo+in+c ... tartPage=1


How do you explain the pictures of UFO's in china?