Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21)

RamonSessions · Post #441 » by **RamonSessions** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:53 am

Don't why you would get blasted CBQ, sounds about right.

Bogut can actually have a fairly good shot (the injury causes a problem in developing it), but Larry has been pretty good from the get go.

PedroGrande · Post #442 » by **PedroGrande** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:00 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:
carmelbrownqueen wrote:If you want to see Bogut put up some shots and wearing the protection for his hand then just look at the Paschketball video on Bucks.com for today. He's in the background for a good portion of it.

Thanks. Seldom check that site.

The arm apparatus doesn't look all too bad actually. His shot doesn't look so good, but then again it never has.

I will probably get blasted for this comment but from what I have seen thus far, Larry Sanders seems to have a much better looking shot than Bogut.. and I believe he has more potential to be a consistent shooter than what I have seen from Bogut thoughout the years.

If me memory serves right he is at least less afraid to use it even when he doesn't work than bogut. How ironic it would be to bogut in the year he had back problems developing the blocks and D, and the next year with arm and hand problems, develop the Jumper and FT? lol

KingCammo · Post #443 » by **KingCammo** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:03 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:
carmelbrownqueen wrote:If you want to see Bogut put up some shots and wearing the protection for his hand then just look at the Paschketball video on Bucks.com for today. He's in the background for a good portion of it.

Thanks. Seldom check that site.

The arm apparatus doesn't look all too bad actually. His shot doesn't look so good, but then again it never has.

I will probably get blasted for this comment but from what I have seen thus far, Larry Sanders seems to have a much better looking shot than Bogut.. and I believe he has more potential to be a consistent shooter than what I have seen from Bogut thoughout the years.

If we're talking about how each players jump shot appeals to the optic nerve, then I see no reason for you to get blasted. Bogut has a donkey's arsehole of a jumpshot.

Aaron It Out · Post #444 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:06 am

Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

RamonSessions · Post #445 » by **RamonSessions** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:08 am

RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

I think Pedro Grande might be onto something...

Watching his hero Petrovich on the 30 for 30 program probably remotivates Bogut to make a play for best center in the league this season, re-establishing his shot, and dropping 3's. :wink:

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PedroGrande · Post #446 » by **PedroGrande** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:13 am

RamonSessions wrote:
RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

I think Pedro Grande might be onto something...

Watching his hero Petrovich on the 30 for 30 program probably remotivates Bogut to make a play for best center in the league this season, re-establishing his shot, and dropping 3's. .

In a bucks jersey before being drafted by the bucks? How ironic. Didn't knew about that.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #447 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:23 am

RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

I have always refuted the notion that Bogut was a good shooter in college.. and he's pretty much proven my earlier assessment of his skills to be correct. He didn't come into the league as the offensively skilled player many believed him to be and he still isn't that guy. Perhaps it's fear, I'm not really sure... I just wish he could add a dependable mid-range jumper.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #448 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:29 am

RamonSessions wrote:Don't why you would get blasted CBQ, sounds about right.

Bogut can actually have a fairly good shot (the injury causes a problem in developing it), but Larry has been pretty good from the get go.

In the past, when I have talked about my assessment of Bogut on this board it has turned into a "race" discussion or comments that I have "always" been negative about him. None of that is true, so I always expect negativity in response to anything I say about him on here.

RamonSessions · Post #449 » by **RamonSessions** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:30 am

Yeah, not only that but he thereafter got to play with Kukoc. Pretty cool.

trwi7 · Post #450 » by **trwi7** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:25 am

RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

He passed jerrod in the airport.

icat2000 · Post #451 » by **icat2000** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:49 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:
RamonSessions wrote:Don't why you would get blasted CBQ, sounds about right.

Bogut can actually have a fairly good shot (the injury causes a problem in developing it), but Larry has been pretty good from the get go.

In the past, when I have talked about my assessment of Bogut on this board it has turned into a "race" discussion or comments that I have "always" been negative about him. None of that is true, so I always expect negativity in response to anything I say about him on here.

You are really reaching here. Its fine to have an different opinion. Others over the years have made similar comments regarding Bogut on various levels. Some have not shared that opinion either. But I don't think I have ever read anything about it being a race issue.

ClassicJack · Post #452 » by **ClassicJack** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:36 am

icat2000 wrote:But I don't think I have ever read anything about it being a race issue.

You must have xtitan on ignore.

Scoops · Post #453 » by **Scoops** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:37 am

RamonSessions wrote:
RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

I think Pedro Grande might be onto something...

Watching his hero Petrovich on the 30 for 30 program probably remotivates Bogut to make a play for best center in the league this season, re-establishing his shot, and dropping 3's. .

Never realized that's where that pic was taken. Everyone should watch that 30 for 30 btw.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #454 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:39 am

lol icat, oh it DEFINITELY turned into a race discussion pre-draft, post draft, and over his 5 years in the league.. We have had plenty discussions about that on here, but I don't think I can go back that far and pull up all those threads (plus I don't have the time to go look for them).

As examples of things I do remember... when Bogut was compared to other NBA players prior to being drafted, the most likely comparison was to Tim Duncan. I didn't agree with that comparison. When I would counter with guys I thought he could become if he developed a go-to move and started hitting a midrange jumper consistently, it became a discussion of why the guys I compared him too where White rather than Black. We talked about that extensively pre and post draft.

A similar discussion took place when Bogut made the comments about American players being more into spending money of expensive things v. his mindset which is different due to his cultural differences. I was annoyed with Bogut's ill-advised comments and stated my preference for him to keep his opinions to himself. That discussion also turned into a HUGE race and culture conversation which went well beyond basketball. I was even accused of always having a negative opinion of Bogut (which isn't accurate) along with all the racial things that came out of that too...actually that discussion got ugly.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #455 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:40 am

ClassicJack wrote:
icat2000 wrote:But I don't think I have ever read anything about it being a race issue.

You must have xtitan on ignore.

lol it wasn't just xTitan though.. a lot of posters have joined in on the race discussions over the years.

jerrod · Post #456 » by **jerrod** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:47 am

why don't we just make fun of his haircut in that picture? that's years of worth of comedy

paul · Post #457 » by **paul** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:46 am

Race? He can't shoot because he's a whitey? LOL.

CBQ wrote:A similar discussion took place when Bogut made the comments about American players being more into spending money of expensive things v. his mindset which is different due to his cultural differences. I was annoyed with Bogut's ill-advised comments and stated my preference for him to keep his opinions to himself. That discussion also turned into a HUGE race and culture conversation which went well beyond basketball. I was even accused of always having a negative opinion of Bogut (which isn't accurate) along with all the racial things that came out of that too...actually that discussion got ugly.

There have been several times where that conversation has gotten ugly. I wonder if we are far enough removed from that time now to just say that despite the fact that he should probably have shut his pie hole he was right....

jerrod wrote:why don't we just make fun of his haircut in that picture? that's years of worth of comedy

Yep, def should have been a Rodney Dangerfield 'nice haircut, did you get a free bowl of soup with that' comment or 12.

Franc · Post #458 » by **Franc** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:17 am

PedroGrande wrote:
RamonSessions wrote:
RJay715 wrote:Bogut had such a sweet jumper at Utah. I don't know what the hell happened to it once he got to the NBA.

I think Pedro Grande might be onto something...

Watching his hero Petrovich on the 30 for 30 program probably remotivates Bogut to make a play for best center in the league this season, re-establishing his shot, and dropping 3's. .

In a bucks jersey before being drafted by the bucks? How ironic. Didn't knew about that.

Yes it was jersey of his beloved Bucks player Toni Kukoc at the grave of his beloved Drazen

EastSideBucksFan · Post #459 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:43 am

CBQ - You always seem to get attacked and I don't want you to go into hiding right before the season starts, because I think you are valuable to this board. But, from what I read, you are the one who had to reference race and past digressions on this board. Whats past is past.

Larry Sanders looks to be a good player. But whats the point of comparing him to Bogut? That is neither here nor there to quote some mmbot.

Larry Sanders is Larry Sanders and Andrew Bogut is Andrew Bogut.

I hope for Bogut to get healthy soon and Sanders to have a quick learning curve because I think he can contribute and be a special player in this league defensively and add a huge element to this team that we haven't had is a long time.

Race has nothing to do with anything here. All I care about (can't speak for everybody) is what you do when you step on the court. That is what defines you as a player.

AussieBuck · Post #460 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:01 am

Bogut has always had a good jumpshot it just doesn't work in the NBA. I'd be confident betting that he'll shoot 40%+ from 3 at the next Olympics.