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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#521 » by emunney » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:41 pm

Ayt wrote:
What would be the point in him responding if it is obvious you are being a dick for some unknown reason?

Someone stating they think it is a good market to invest in classic cars shouldn't bother you that much, especially when it is just a general statement and not any type of serious advice.


I guess there's a fine line between making a simple joke and being a dick, and apparently I've crossed it, so I apologize to you, ESBF. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

It doesn't bother me, Ayt. I just thought it was funny. I do that sometimes.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#522 » by Ayt » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:43 pm

It just came off wrong. I've done the same thing myself plenty of times.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#523 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:56 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:Have either of you watched Kevin Martin shooting threes? Aesthetics aren't everything. Bogut was putting up good numbers against great international teams as a 20 year old including the US and it sure wasn't through brute strength. He has what should be a workable NBA jumpshot, it just got lost somewhere in his head. I blame Stotts. :)

I think his jumpshot doesn't like the NBA! I agree let's blame it on Beaker!!! :D

Yeah whatever the reason I just sometimes feel the need to remind people that his jumpshot exists. I don't know if we'll ever see it in the NBA but it's there locked in his crazy mind somewhere.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#524 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:59 pm

On the classic car topic, I know a few people who travel to the US just to buy cars to bring them back here to sell them. With the US economy in the toilet and the subsequent dollar parity you can buy a car for $15k and sell it for more than double back here.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#525 » by Chapter29 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:04 pm

carmelbrownqueen wrote:Honestly I never thought his jumpshot looked very good in college either and always said that he wasn't as NBA ready on the offensive end as advertised. Perhaps its just confidence, I don't know...


Right. I think he has always had bad mechanics on his jumper. Shoots like a typical big man, not like a skilled big man like Vlade was. The only thing is that he hit a better percentage in college.

I remember the first few times I saw him after of course hearing about how NBA ready he is. I was like this dudes jumper is broke. This is NBA ready? He may be NBA leading in many categories, but his jumper is still not NBA ready.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#526 » by EastSideBucksFan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:11 pm

emunney wrote:I guess there's a fine line between making a simple joke and being a dick, and apparently I've crossed it, so I apologize to you, ESBF. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

It doesn't bother me, Ayt. I just thought it was funny. I do that sometimes.



My feelings aren't hurt because you are nothing to me.

Just my opinion of you has changed because you seem to be an internet tough guy who likes to condescend and belittle.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#527 » by EastSideBucksFan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:12 pm

AussieBuck wrote:On the classic car topic, I know a few people who travel to the US just to buy cars to bring them back here to sell them. With the US economy in the toilet and the subsequent dollar parity you can buy a car for $15k and sell it for more than double back here.



You are correct.

There is a lot of demand for what we do in Australia. I would love to visit one day.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#528 » by carmelbrownqueen » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:20 pm

Somehow things have been misconstrued. I don't recall anyone ever calling Bogut a racist (ignorant maybe but not racist to my recollection). I honestly don't think he's a racist. Although, I do think he has made some ignorant and ill-advised comments at times in his attempts to differenitate himself.

My comment earlier was that ANY criticisms of Bogut throughout the years has often turned into a race discussion on this board not that he was in any way a racist.

In regard to his comments about the extravagant and unnecessary spending by some NBA players on flashy things (which could be linked to hip hop culture).. I thought back then that his perspective appeared a bit arrogant and hypocritical. His friviolous spending is no better than their friviolous spending. It's all wasteful, so really he's no better than any of them. Just because he wastes money on classic cars (by the way I LOVE cars - classic or otherwise) doesn't make it any less wasteful then someone who spends money on other stuff. We all like nice things and most of the things people like are unnecessary... at the end of the day the lint in our pockets will let us know if it was worth the purchase or not.

He spends the money because he can and so do they. He's not a minimalist who saves every dollar, so what makes the type of purchase he makes anything different from anyone elses? It doesn't. It's what he enjoys doing and nobody else in the NBA otherized him then or now for it. I don't care what specific question they asked him, sometimes saying less is better than saying more... lucky for us he seems to have learned that either via maturing or media training.

The other thing, at that time, that I found especially amusing was my recollection of an interview he did pre-draft with a college teammate where Bogut clearly stated that his favorite artist and music was made by Jay-Z. I believe he was a big fan of the Black Album at one point and then after being drafted he started saying otherwise and concentrating more on cultural differences when questioned. It was comical to hear him later make comments that made it appear as if he was somewhat disinterested in any part of hip hop culture. However as I said.. it's all a part of growth and I am happy he is more mature and comfortable in his own skin.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#529 » by carmelbrownqueen » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:26 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Yeah whatever the reason I just sometimes feel the need to remind people that his jumpshot exists. I don't know if we'll ever see it in the NBA but it's there locked in his crazy mind somewhere.

He isn't the only guy to lose their ability to make a jumpshot after coming to the NBA, Anderson V. also has similar issues. I recall before he was drafted that I was really interested in him as a player and thought he could be a good addition but I started to back off a bit once he started playing more like a SF (overseas) than like a PF. I feared he would be stuck between the SF/PF position without a role... well the Anderson V. on the Cavs, is a PF/C or C/PF, that doesn't seem to have much of an offensive skill set. It's perplexing really.

ETA: I will be very interested in seeing what kind of player T. Splitter ends up becoming on the Spurs.. he has been the guy that I have always wanted to wear a Bucks uni but now he's playing for the Spurs. :(
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#530 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:54 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:Yeah whatever the reason I just sometimes feel the need to remind people that his jumpshot exists. I don't know if we'll ever see it in the NBA but it's there locked in his crazy mind somewhere.

He isn't the only guy to lose their ability to make a jumpshot after coming to the NBA, Anderson V. also has similar issues. I recall before he was drafted that I was really interested in him as a player and thought he could be a good addition but I started to back off a bit once he started playing more like a SF (overseas) than like a PF. I feared he would be stuck between the SF/PF position without a role... well the Anderson V. on the Cavs, is a PF/C or C/PF, that doesn't seem to have much of an offensive skill set. It's perplexing really.

ETA: I will be very interested in seeing what kind of player T. Splitter ends up becoming on the Spurs.. he has been the guy that I have always wanted to wear a Bucks uni but now he's playing for the Spurs. :(

The difference with the argument I'm making isn't that he's lost his jumpshot he just regularly misplaces it. I wouldn't bang on about it if I didn't see it every time he suits up for Australia.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#531 » by Chapter29 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:56 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Have either of you watched Kevin Martin shooting threes? Aesthetics aren't everything. Bogut was putting up good numbers against great international teams as a 20 year old including the US and it sure wasn't through brute strength. He has what should be a workable NBA jumpshot, it just got lost somewhere in his head. I blame Stotts. :)


No doubt. But good form almost always equals success, improved form certainly does. I was taught to shoot in my early 20's (an athletic type player with a poor jumper) by a friend who was a great shooter and learned pretty good mechanics (shot virtually every day), that resulted in much better success and consistency to the point where I became a pretty good shot. But you're right, that isn't the end all be all.

His shot does not look good, it looks like your typical 7 footer shot. Could he improve his percentages with his current mechanics? Sure. Will he be very good with his current mechanics? I don't think so, but anythings possible. His workable NBA jumpshot at this point has not resulted in anything close to a reliable 15 footer or FT. He needs to work on it.

I am with you on blaming Stotts.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#532 » by emunney » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:10 am

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emunney wrote:I guess there's a fine line between making a simple joke and being a dick, and apparently I've crossed it, so I apologize to you, ESBF. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

It doesn't bother me, Ayt. I just thought it was funny. I do that sometimes.



My feelings aren't hurt because you are nothing to me.

Just my opinion of you has changed because you seem to be an internet tough guy who likes to condescend and belittle.


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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#533 » by Stopshere2 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:34 am

ECBF and emunney :)

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Post#534 » by emunney » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:38 am

Pretty good, but it's no 1996 Ford Taurus. That's a pretty good shot of us in better times. Puttin' in the memory book.
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Post#535 » by Stopshere2 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:44 am

emunney wrote:Pretty good, but it's no 1996 Ford Taurus. That's a pretty good shot of us in better times. Puttin' in the memory book.



LOL @ the cockroach car. Taurus was one of the ugliest machines ever. I can't even believe you joking about it ... once seen, can never be unseen, etc :)
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#536 » by paul » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:16 am

AussieBuck wrote:On the classic car topic, I know a few people who travel to the US just to buy cars to bring them back here to sell them. With the US economy in the toilet and the subsequent dollar parity you can buy a car for $15k and sell it for more than double back here.


Yeah I know a couple as well, and I know of another one, you may have heard of him his name is Andrew Bogut :D
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Post#537 » by jerrod » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:40 am

i'm better than everyone because i spent even less on my car

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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#538 » by paul » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:52 am

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emunney wrote:Pretty good, but it's no 1996 Ford Taurus. That's a pretty good shot of us in better times. Puttin' in the memory book.



LOL @ the cockroach car. Taurus was one of the ugliest machines ever. I can't even believe you joking about it ... once seen, can never be unseen, etc :)



I hired a Tauras in LA as a 21 year old and drove it up Highway 1 to San Fransisco with a couple of Aussie guys over the course of 4 or 5 days. The car may or may not have been balls, but we sure had some fun in it :D

Though that would have been a 98 model so it may not count.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#539 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:57 am

emunney wrote:ESBF, what is the overhead on buying a classic car? Can I pay to store it somewhere or do I have to have an extra garage? How much does it cost to rent storage space? Serious questions. Is it still a good investment if I don't have room to store it myself? Would it need to be climate controlled or just sheltered?


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Classic cars = not an investment.
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Re: Bogut Injury Thread: "I may not be 100% this year" (page 21) 

Post#540 » by michaelm » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:59 am

Stopshere2 wrote:ECBF and emunney :)
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