Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick?

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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#21 » by F1uxCapacit0r » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:15 pm

How injured is anderson. should i drop him on my fantasy team. I couldn;t find anything on his injury. is Haslem a decent replacement for anderson>
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#22 » by cochiseuofm » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:43 pm

Nene isn't a great shotblocker. He gets a blocked shot a game because of his size and the position he plays, but it isn't his strength. And more to the point, blocked shots aren't like points. Just because someone else on the team who was getting blocked shots is out, doesn't mean another player is going to pick up all those lost blocked points. If Dwight Howard got hurt, would anyone have expected Rashard Lewis, who had been his PF, to suddenly get more blocks? That logic makes 0 sense.

He is who he is at this point. He isn't going to win you any category outright, but he isn't going to hurt you in any either. He is a great complimentary big man in fantasy, and that is why he is in the top 40.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#23 » by rocketsballin » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:01 pm

wat's not to understand? last year kmart missed more games than he did the season before, and somehow nene gets less blocks.

if anderson and/or kmart has an injury prone year then i'd pick nene that high, but only if one of them get hurt
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#24 » by cochiseuofm » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:17 pm

I don't understand why you think Nene would get more blocks just because K=Mart got hurt. Or why you are relying on Nene to be a big blocks guy in the first place.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#25 » by rocketsballin » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:42 pm

im not relyin on him for blocks. i'm just saying that kmart missed more games last season then he did the year before, but nene gets less blocks. not only that but BIRDMAN got less blocks too. so how does nene get less blocks with all that? is he losing his shot blocking already? im not saying he should've averaged 2bpg, but at least 1.2bpg.

it's like in indiana with murphy gone, someone has to pick up the slack in rebouding and scoring. why couldn't nene pick up the slack in blocks?
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#26 » by cochiseuofm » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:53 pm

But nobody has to pick up the slack in blocks. Did you ever consider that opposing teams just had less of their shots blocked because the Nuggets best shot blocker was gone?

Blocks are not a stat you can rely on other players to pick up, same as steals. Points and rebounds are because players get more opportunities to shoot and catch balls with others gone. But I'm not going to keep explaining the same thing to you over and over.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#27 » by rocketsballin » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:24 pm

i'm not saying i wanted to rely on nene to pick up the slack. i'm saying in general, with birdman blocking less shots (and played more games that season), and kmart injured, how does nene end up with less blocks. cuz kmart wasn't there to help nene?

he's only 28, i wouldnt expect him to decline already. we'll find out this season if it was a fluke.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#28 » by floppymoose » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:43 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:wat's not to understand? last year kmart missed more games than he did the season before, and somehow nene gets less blocks.

If you want to win blocks, draft someone else. If you want to win your league, draft Nene.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#29 » by J Smitty » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:06 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:i'm not saying i wanted to rely on nene to pick up the slack. i'm saying in general, with birdman blocking less shots (and played more games that season), and kmart injured, how does nene end up with less blocks. cuz kmart wasn't there to help nene?

he's only 28, i wouldnt expect him to decline already. we'll find out this season if it was a fluke.



Are you actually being serious?

You do realize stats tend to fluctuate from year to year, right? Now sure, if he had consistently been blocking 2 shot per game for his career, and suddenly last year only averaged 1 bpg...then you may have a point. But his career average is 0.9 bpg. Two years ago he averaged 1.3 bpg(a career high), and last year averaged 1 per game. Do you not see how your argument is slightly ridiculous?

And as has already been mentioned, blocked shots have almost nothing to do with who else is on the floor with you. The only thing that actually plays a factor is minutes....more minutes, more opportunity for blocks.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#30 » by rocketsballin » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:41 pm

-anderson got less blocks (played more games than previous season)
-kmart injured, played less games than previous season

BUT

-nene plays all 82 games, has less blocks than previous season (more minutes too)

i'm just concerned his blocks might actually be declining. i'm also obsessed with blocks, as you can tell.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#31 » by floppymoose » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:14 am

heh. Ok, if you really want blocks, but also want to win, I would definitely take Nene if he is still there in the 30-40 range, because he should outperform that draft position. But then I would target Javale McGee later on, in the 90-100 range. I don't know how deep your league is, but if it's 180 or so deep you could also pick up Hasheem Thabeet at the end of the draft.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#32 » by rocketsballin » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:01 am

my bad, this wasnt a thread to help me with my league. got 4 teams, all w/o nene.
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Re: Why is Nene still a top 30-40 pick? 

Post#33 » by Breakdown777 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:08 am

I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet that block numbers went down across the board for most players last year. It just doesn't seem like as many players got credit because a foul was called, and maybe changing league styles resulted in less blocks per game overall. I didn't research this, but I have a hunch if someone did they'd see that many players saw their block numbers drop last year.

Nene is most definately a 30-40 pick, and most winning managers realize that. A guy who doesn't hurt you anywhere, and is actually very good in some stats for his position is a great complimentary player and is a great safe pick.

And it's funny that we're talking about his injury history when almost every big man has had an injury taking them out of approx. 20 games in the last 3 years. One of Nene's bigger injuries was cancer that needed to be removed (hardly basketball relate, so it doesn't effect future performance as much) The bigger they are, the harder they fall...
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