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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#81 » by montestewart » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:13 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:Seems like the average predicted win total went up by +10 when the Wiz kids were 3-1 in the preseason and now that it's over at 2-4, those 10 wins are gone from predictions.

When they were 2-1, I wrote:
montestewart wrote:I will, if healthy, stick with my original prediction, which I've forgotten, but it was somewhere in the mid-30s and didn't rule out squeaking into an 8th seed.

I'm like Bush; no flip-floppin' (except, you know, every once in awhile).

That average improvement for #1 picks' teams (wasn't it like an 11 game improvement?) includes such a wide range of situations: teams that did extra bad because top players were injured; teams that already had young top players on the roster, but not yet making big contributions; teams that were completely deconstructed in midseason; teams that were much better or worse than their record indicated. I'm noy using that as too much of a guide, with so many other roster variables in play.

Maybe the Wizards will do better than I'm guessing. More fun for the fans, for sure, and if Wall and Arenas and Blatche and McGee really click, it could happen. I'm not too worried about their record this year, as long as they seem to be on their way with a solid plan. A good fight for a playoff spot or even slipping in (or, damn, winning a round) wouldn't hurt a thing.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#82 » by WizStorm » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:59 pm

Updated...

23 wins: Visigoth
24 wins:
25 wins;
26 wins:
27 wins:
28 wins: willbcocks
29 wins: noDinhibachi
30 wins: Pollinator
31 wins: Consiglieri81, doclinkin
32 wins: Zonkerbl, Gesa2, dandridge10
33 wins: Hooplotta, Floydfan29, wiz99, Nigel Tufnel, fishercob
34 wins: KevinFCheng, dangermouse, sfam, tikunit, KiNgSbOi, BigA, Verbal8, long suffrin' boulez fan
35 wins: AnotherFinn, REDardWIZskin, Zonkerbl
36 wins: MJG, nate33, Dat2U
37 wins: dangermouse, darealhibachi, zaRdsAndZeRos, CCJ
38 wins: DallasShalDune
39 wins: YiOF
40 wins: Ruzious, Pine, DAT2U, The Fax, Gil_Kills, sportsshooteral
41 wins:
42 wins: JonathanJoseph
43 wins: Wizards2Lottery
44 wins:
45 wins: Krizko Zero
46 wins: Plotintelli
47 wins:
48 wins:
49 wins:
50 wins: Pancakes
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#83 » by TheGreatWall » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:02 pm

37 wins. 9th seed in the East.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#84 » by nate33 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:21 pm

Dat2U has 36 and 40 wins. Make up your mind dude.

Or maybe you are going with the doclinkin strategy of assigning different win totals to each bodily organ so that you can claim credit for winning at least one of them.

That's a good idea. My left testicle thinks the Wizards will win 27 games.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#85 » by WizStorm » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:45 pm

Haha ... thanks for catching dup... updated with latest prediction on record...

23 wins: Visigoth
24 wins:
25 wins;
26 wins:
27 wins:
28 wins: willbcocks
29 wins: noDinhibachi
30 wins: Pollinator
31 wins: Consiglieri81, doclinkin
32 wins: Zonkerbl, Gesa2, dandridge10
33 wins: Hooplotta, Floydfan29, wiz99, Nigel Tufnel, fishercob
34 wins: KevinFCheng, dangermouse, sfam, tikunit, KiNgSbOi, BigA, Verbal8, long suffrin' boulez fan
35 wins: AnotherFinn, REDardWIZskin, Zonkerbl
36 wins: MJG, nate33, Dat2U
37 wins: dangermouse, darealhibachi, zaRdsAndZeRos, CCJ, TheGreatWall
38 wins: DallasShalDune
39 wins: YiOF
40 wins: Ruzious, Pine, The Fax, Gil_Kills, sportsshooteral
41 wins:
42 wins: JonathanJoseph
43 wins: Wizards2Lottery
44 wins:
45 wins: Krizko Zero
46 wins: Plotintelli
47 wins:
48 wins:
49 wins:
50 wins: Pancakes
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#86 » by LyricalRico » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:50 pm

Man, this is tough. I'm definitely excited for the season, but I see this team giving up A LOT of games in the second half. They just don't have enough guys that know how to close out a game. They'll get a big boost when Howard is healthy but will that be 2 weeks or 2 months?

I'm thinking somewhere in the 30's but I'm not sure exactly where. I'll decide on a number by the opener.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#87 » by DaRealHibachi » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:11 pm

dangermouse gets to pick twice...??? :(

Am I missing something...???
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#88 » by WizStorm » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:24 pm

Not naming any names, but a certain pineapple made that dangermouse mistake...

I also added in my own .500 prediction at this time. I think there is an awful lot of dreck in the league that the Wizards will have an inconsistent record against beause of their youth. I also think the Wizards have the speed and athleticism to be able to shock many of the top contenders, again producing a mix of good and bad results.

23 wins: Visigoth
24 wins:
25 wins;
26 wins:
27 wins:
28 wins: willbcocks
29 wins: noDinhibachi
30 wins: Pollinator
31 wins: Consiglieri81, doclinkin
32 wins: Zonkerbl, Gesa2, dandridge10
33 wins: Hooplotta, Floydfan29, wiz99, Nigel Tufnel, fishercob
34 wins: KevinFCheng, dangermouse, sfam, tikunit, KiNgSbOi, BigA, Verbal8, long suffrin' boulez fan
35 wins: AnotherFinn, REDardWIZskin, Zonkerbl
36 wins: MJG, nate33, Dat2U
37 wins: darealhibachi, zaRdsAndZeRos, CCJ, TheGreatWall
38 wins: DallasShalDune
39 wins: YiOF
40 wins: Ruzious, Pine, The Fax, Gil_Kills, sportsshooteral
41 wins: WizStorm
42 wins: JonathanJoseph
43 wins: Wizards2Lottery
44 wins:
45 wins: Krizko Zero
46 wins: Plotintelli
47 wins:
48 wins:
49 wins:
50 wins: Pancakes
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#89 » by pineappleheadindc » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:24 pm

nate33 wrote:Dat2U has 36 and 40 wins. Make up your mind dude.

Or maybe you are going with the doclinkin strategy of assigning different win totals to each bodily organ so that you can claim credit for winning at least one of them.

That's a good idea. My left testicle thinks the Wizards will win 27 games.



LOL - I think that was my fault.

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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#90 » by hands11 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:00 pm

hands11 wrote:Never understood how you could predict them this early. We haven't even seen them in pre-season or know who will be healthy when the season starts.

WTH....Looking into my crystal ball... its getting clearer.... I see something....


82-0 AMAZING

Or I could do the safe middle of the road thing....41-41 or there abouts...

But it's anyone guess at this point. Anywhere from 30 to 46 wins. Need to see them in camp first and see who we have healthy to start the year.

Ted is building with the long term in mind so there is no help on the way. They are going to throw them out there and see if they have anything to keep. They mean loosing at the expense of evaluating and growing. EG starting cleaning out the roster on his own and now with Ted they are keeping it really flexible so they can add players later when needed.

With the CBA around the corner and so many young players at center, a lot has to go right. If not, we could easily be down around 30 wins. Hard to tell if our offense and offensive style will be enough to over come a weak center position if it ends up that way.


Having seen the summer league and preseason, an knowing we dumped Ammo, I'm getting a better feel for what might happen. Wall has a lot to do with it. He is true leader and he is setting the tone with Flip and Sam. Also, Howard seems a head of schedule which is great news. And McGee is showing flashes of maturing and getting it. I like that he is saying more of the right things. I heard him say we all have to sacrifice parts of our game to do what the team needs. I also like the added muscle.

Seems they still have some work to do with getting things worked out with what they want from Dray which is a little concerning but I think between Flip and Wall they will work it out. Wall will get him the ball in ways that he feels productive. This will lead to him getting with the program. This is why I have been wanting them to get a better PG than Gil for years. A Wall type PG is going to greatly accelerate the learning curve and development of other players, specially the bigs. And along with that, he is going to greatly help the coach get everyone on the same page. The ball will stick less this year. That is something Flip has wanted since he got here. We are also going to play better team D and have better role players.

We seem mostly healthy considering we had concerns about Howard, Gil and Dray coming into the season. Gil and Dray seem less of a concern so that is huge. We didn't even know for sure if Dray would be ready to start this season. He is a little out of shape, but he is ready to play. Still waiting to hear more about Gil though. A least it wasn't his knee but the hammy needs to get right if we want him to be back to scoring Gil.

My last concern is Nick. I think we can upgrade there by subtraction and in the process get a more reliable bench which will be important on the margin. And on the margin can count for 3-5 games. It would be a long shot to see them move him before the season starts, but I can still dream that they find a deal that works. Not sure holding him will raise his value or not.

I had us at anywhere from 30 to 46 wins earlier. Well 30 would be low.
What did we win last year ? 26 ?
Wall adds 10. And Gil and last seasons Dray at PF instead of AJ could add 5-10
No Haywood center takes away several games but if Dray, Yi, McGee and Armstrong with Seraphin (over time) could hold down the fort with McGee maybe surprising us with his development, hmmm

Also consider the FX of having Gil as a closer with ball in hand. We didn't really have that last year. Wall will also be a closer. He doesn't have Gils range but he can drive, dish and hit a mid range. Those two at the top of the key with the ball in eithers hand is going to be hard to guard which will spread the floor. Dray is another play how can develop a closing game plus McGee and alley op and Yi can hit from range. Plus with Howard or Kirk. With so many game coming down to the end, I like what we have to win those games.

It's easier to see 42-46 wins. I know 34-38 would be easier for some but this team has talent. If just a matter of how it all fits together and how quickly it happens. With Wall being such a quick study and how well he helps Flip and Sam communicate the plan, I'm leaning toward quickly.

Still a few more days to figure this out. I want to see the final roster and health report.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#91 » by eitanr » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:26 pm

I'll say 37 wins.

Wall will be good enough to ensure a post season run, but ultimatley fall short, regardless of other injuries that may occur. I just think this team is slightly worse than the Knicks and better than the other teams fighting for that last seed...perhaps almost on par with the Bobcats/Pacers etc.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#92 » by closg00 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:11 pm

WizStorm wrote:Not naming any names, but a certain pineapple made that dangermouse mistake...

I also added in my own .500 prediction at this time. I think there is an awful lot of dreck in the league that the Wizards will have an inconsistent record against beause of their youth. I also think the Wizards have the speed and athleticism to be able to shock many of the top contenders, again producing a mix of good and bad results.

23 wins: Visigoth
24 wins:
25 wins;
26 wins:
27 wins:
28 wins: willbcocks
29 wins: noDinhibachi
30 wins: Pollinator
31 wins: Consiglieri81, doclinkin
32 wins: Zonkerbl, Gesa2, dandridge10
33 wins: Hooplotta, Floydfan29, wiz99, Nigel Tufnel, fishercob
34 wins: KevinFCheng, dangermouse, sfam, tikunit, KiNgSbOi, BigA, Verbal8, long suffrin' boulez fan
35 wins: AnotherFinn, REDardWIZskin, Zonkerbl
36 wins: MJG, nate33, Dat2U
37 wins: darealhibachi, zaRdsAndZeRos, CCJ, TheGreatWall
38 wins: DallasShalDune
39 wins: YiOF
40 wins: Ruzious, Pine, The Fax, Gil_Kills, sportsshooteral
41 wins: WizStorm
42 wins: JonathanJoseph
43 wins: Wizards2Lottery
44 wins:
45 wins: Krizko Zero
46 wins: Plotintelli
47 wins:
48 wins:
49 wins:
50 wins: Pancakes


Put me down for 32 wins.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#93 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:46 pm

Oops, I apparently voted twice, once for 32 and yesterday for 35.

I'll go with 35.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#94 » by DallasShalDune » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:24 pm

Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#95 » by montestewart » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:31 pm

DallasShalDune wrote:Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.

I picked 37, cause I know how to play The New Price is Right.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#96 » by DallasShalDune » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:06 pm

montestewart wrote:
DallasShalDune wrote:Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.

I picked 37, cause I know how to play The New Price is Right.

Ha! Exactly! :)
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#97 » by MJG » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:43 pm

DallasShalDune wrote:Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.

Someone actually measured it out last year or the year before that, averaging up the previous year's predictions versus reality, and the board as a whole always overshoots us. Almost makes me want to drop down to something like 30 wins.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#98 » by montestewart » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:54 pm

MJG wrote:
DallasShalDune wrote:Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.

Someone actually measured it out last year or the year before that, averaging up the previous year's predictions versus reality, and the board as a whole always overshoots us. Almost makes me want to drop down to something like 30 wins.

I think the average or median overestimate was 19 wins.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#99 » by nate33 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:01 pm

MJG wrote:
DallasShalDune wrote:Even when I pick a crappy record (38 is still crappy!) I still always find myself on the upper-half of the predictions. Also, I've overstated the Wiz record EVERY YEAR that I've voted, so as a barometer of sorts, I suggest everyone pick lower than me.

Someone actually measured it out last year or the year before that, averaging up the previous year's predictions versus reality, and the board as a whole always overshoots us. Almost makes me want to drop down to something like 30 wins.

For a while, the board consistently predicted 2 more wins more than what actually happened. That trend fell apart during the 2008/09 season when the team collapsed, fired their coach and ended up picking 5th in the lottery. That team won 15 to 20 fewer games than expected.
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Re: Predict the Wizards record in 2010-2011 

Post#100 » by WizStorm » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:02 pm

Update:

23 wins: Visigoth
24 wins:
25 wins;
26 wins:
27 wins:
28 wins: willbcocks
29 wins: noDinhibachi
30 wins: Pollinator
31 wins: Consiglieri81, doclinkin
32 wins: Gesa2, dandridge10, closg00
33 wins: Hooplotta, Floydfan29, wiz99, Nigel Tufnel, fishercob
34 wins: KevinFCheng, dangermouse, sfam, tikunit, KiNgSbOi, BigA, Verbal8, long suffrin' boulez fan
35 wins: AnotherFinn, REDardWIZskin, Zonkerbl
36 wins: MJG, nate33, Dat2U
37 wins: darealhibachi, zaRdsAndZeRos, CCJ, TheGreatWall, eitanr, montestewart
38 wins: DallasShalDune
39 wins: YiOF
40 wins: Ruzious, Pine, The Fax, Gil_Kills, sportsshooteral
41 wins: WizStorm
42 wins: JonathanJoseph
43 wins: Wizards2Lottery
44 wins:
45 wins: Krizko Zero
46 wins: Plotintelli
47 wins:
48 wins:
49 wins:
50 wins: Pancakes

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