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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#21 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:34 pm

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funkatron101 wrote:Looking at success vs attendance, If the Nets don't relocate, and contraction is seriously considered, they HAVE to be one of the teams.

2004, Nets get the #2 seed, 24th in attendance.
8th seed the following year, 26th in attendance.
2006, people start to catch on, only slightly. 3rd seed, 19th in attendance.


There's no if. That's a done deal. 2012. Also, the franchise was just sold last year to a mulit-billionaire.

I haven't kept up at all on the situation. Last I had read they were still dealing with legal issues. It's a weird franchise. I mean, almost considering changing their name to the "Swamp Dragons?" Thankfully that didn't happen. Stupid 90s.


Ya they broke ground on the Barclay Center in March. Legal issues were all sorted out before then.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#22 » by Wolfay » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:32 pm

I'm just trying to enlighten you about the Kings' situation. The Kings are here to stay, whether or not they're in Sacramento is another story, best rest assured, there will always be a Kings team. There are several teams much worse off than we are, and really, the Kings aren't in a bad situation at all moving forward.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#23 » by Calinks » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:39 pm

I could see it being us.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#24 » by funkatron101 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:48 pm

Wolfay wrote:I'm just trying to enlighten you about the Kings' situation. The Kings are here to stay, whether or not they're in Sacramento is another story, best rest assured, there will always be a Kings team. There are several teams much worse off than we are, and really, the Kings aren't in a bad situation at all moving forward.

But the same may not be true for fans who live in Sacramento.

I think we all believe the contraction talk is BS, but it is interesting to speculate.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#25 » by PHTown » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:19 pm

Wolfay wrote:Krapinsky wrote:The Clippers make tons of money and play in one of the best arenas. Not a chance. If you put them into the discussion you don't know what you're talking about.

You are an ass. It was a two part question. the second part is: who would I like to see go. That is an opinion, which was clearly not who I thought would go. Repeat: an opinion, like my feeling that you are an ass. Peace....I'm now actually out.

PHTown wrote:what team do you think would get the axe first? What team would you like to see cut out? I'll go first:


Likely: Raptors. Never bet on a Canadian franchise.

Like to see go: I'm going to say the Clippers. What is the point. They don't try or even have a home stadium, really. Donald Sterling is a jag off. nuff said

OK PHTown, it's clear that, for whatever reasons, you don't like Krapinsky. You are certainly entitled to that opinion but you need to stop with the namecaliing.

That is fair. ok.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#26 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:50 pm

Lol. My post about the Clippers was directed at Klomp who listed them at #5.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#27 » by B Calrissian » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:07 pm

Dr K must be a proctologist.

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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#28 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:25 pm

^^^ Definately an assman, but no procdoc. Definately an ass*** too. Though everyone already knew that. PHTown is a pup so maybe he's just figuring out what the deal is.

As for Kings fans, take it from a Soncis fan --

http://sonicscentral.com/blog/?p=2915
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Post#29 » by shrink » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:34 pm

When I mentioned the chance of restructuring the conferences, that was only #2 on the ways this could help the wolves.

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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#30 » by Wolfay » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:44 pm

FYI I never said that relocation of the Kings wasn't a possibility, it was only the contraction I was arguing, which has zero chance of happening.
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Post#31 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:22 pm

Well contraction has zero chance of happening. But if they were to contract a team they would definitely contract the team/s that needed to be relocated first.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#32 » by Krapinsky » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:22 am

I thought it would be interesting to bump this now that word has it there is a very good chance that the Kings will be at least temporarily moving to Anaheim.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#33 » by cpfsf » Fri Mar 4, 2011 3:14 am

If contraction occurs, what happens to draft picks owed? Take New Orleans for example, they owe us a second round draft pick in 2014, and they are to receive a second round draft pick from Sacramento in 2016.

Assume Minnesota and Sacramento didn't get contracted either...
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#34 » by farmtownte » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:48 am

I've been reading his forum since the Lebron circus last July so please correct me if I overstep. It seems to me that while the Kings are a likely team for contraction if the league chooses so. However if they move the team to Anaheim it seems like oversaturation for the LA market. They have the Lakers(always great) and the Clippers( always cheap, and full of promise with Griffin). If I'm right there haven't been three major league franchises in the same sport since the fifties.

What I see as an alternative is Vegas, they already have the summer league and the town has the population and even in this economy the tourism to keep a decent fan base for game attendance. It's also the largest city besides Austin tx without a pro franchise and Austin has the longhorns which are basically a pair of proteams.
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Post#35 » by skorff26 » Fri Mar 4, 2011 8:00 am

Weren't the Pacers losing millions of dollars a few years ago? I think they could get mentioned...

But in reality it would be New Orleans and Memphis as Options 1A and 1B.
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Post#36 » by C.lupus » Fri Mar 4, 2011 2:12 pm

farmtownte wrote:I've been reading his forum since the Lebron circus last July so please correct me if I overstep. It seems to me that while the Kings are a likely team for contraction if the league chooses so. However if they move the team to Anaheim it seems like oversaturation for the LA market. They have the Lakers(always great) and the Clippers( always cheap, and full of promise with Griffin). If I'm right there haven't been three major league franchises in the same sport since the fifties.

What I see as an alternative is Vegas, they already have the summer league and the town has the population and even in this economy the tourism to keep a decent fan base for game attendance. It's also the largest city besides Austin tx without a pro franchise and Austin has the longhorns which are basically a pair of proteams.

I agree having three teams in the LA area seems like a bad idea. Vegas is interesting. Normally it would be at the top of the list to get a franchise but the whole gambling thing will probably continue to keep major sports out.
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#37 » by Wingman » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:33 pm

Doesn't the NBA own the Hornets? Gotta be them if anyone. Would that mean CP3 would go to Cleveland? Or would it be some sort of lottery?
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Re: Contraction possibility: what team? 

Post#38 » by Krapinsky » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:44 pm

Why do people mention Memphis? They have one of the best arenas in the league.

For the Anaheim Kings, I think the oversaturation arguement is a little overstated. People from LA rarely go to Anaheim. I've been there maby 3 times in four years. There's enough people in that area to sustain a franchise alone (many with $$), not to mention some in San Diego that would drive up.

I think it'll be temporary though. The Anaheim arena isn't exactly brand new. I think it would be a place for them to wait it out until they would again relocate to another place that would build them a new stadium, whether that be back to Sacramento, Vegas, Vancouver (perhaps they have one?), Seattle, or wherever.
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Post#39 » by jgustav1 » Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:41 am

Krapinsky wrote:Why do people mention Memphis? They have one of the best arenas in the league.

For the Anaheim Kings, I think the oversaturation arguement is a little overstated. People from LA rarely go to Anaheim. I've been there maby 3 times in four years. There's enough people in that area to sustain a franchise alone (many with $$), not to mention some in San Diego that would drive up.

I think it'll be temporary though. The Anaheim arena isn't exactly brand new. I think it would be a place for them to wait it out until they would again relocate to another place that would build them a new stadium, whether that be back to Sacramento, Vegas, Vancouver (perhaps they have one?), Seattle, or wherever.


The Honda Center in Anaheim was built in 1993 so it isn't anywhere near as old as the Oracle Arena in Oakland, although that one was refurbished in the 90's. It has luxury boxes and is a modern facility, if the Kings decide to move to Anaheim, I don't think the move would be temporary. The Kings would have no need for a newly build or renovated arena, the Anaheim Ducks have been playing there since the 90's and it is a good facility for both hockey and basketball.

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