Bears vs Redskins

[johnnyvann840]

this game is just painful to watch.

[Nolan]

Hall with another pick.

[SportsWorld]

[DFolks]

Cutler DO NOT THROW TO HALL

[BeKuK]

I'm so depressed after watching this game!

[johnnyvann840]

I'm so depressed after watching this game!

sickening. I feel like puking.

[SportsWorld]

Overrated team.

[Nolan]

Its finally over, what a terrible game.

[BeKuK]

Overrated team.

Reds ??

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

2nd half missed opportunities by Chicago Bears:

Hester does not come back for ball, which leads to Hall"s first INT.

Lovie wastes a timeout by challenging Bennet non-TD catch.

Lovie refuses to challenge Cutler TD that was called a fumble.

Forte fumble.

Defense not pouncing on Redskin fumbles.

Knox dropped balls.

Cutler forcing passes while trying to bring Bears back, when we should have been leading by double digits.

THIS IS BAD!!!!!!!!

[WEFFPIM]

Two wins you had to have before the bye week and you lost both of them.

This is gonna go well.

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Lovie Smith has never & still can't manage timeouts & challenges correctly.

Jay Cutler was being questioned by some for not trusting Martz's system enough (some have said that he was taking too long in the pocket which led to sacks). This week he ran Martz's system correctly but is now being questioned for 4 ints (could it be that his receiver's timing is off if they are not where they should be, considering that the system asks Cutler to just throw it at a particular time to a particular location?).

Lovie & Angelo are wasting a great opportunity this year in a wide-open NFC.

[SportsWorld]

Lovie admitted he should have challenged. Just fire him please.

[The Explorer]

I've defended Lovie for years, and have liked him more than most fans. But enough is enough. How many bad decisions and can he make in a season? Time to clean house.

Get rid of Martz, Lovie, the entire coaching staff, the entire front office, and get some damn players in here on offense. Maybe even a new QB if those don't improve. What a waste!

[ChronicKerr]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/n ... id=5730500

Former NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said Tuesday that if Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith would have challenged a call Sunday, it would have resulted in a touchdown that could have lifted the Bears over the Washington Redskins.


"None whatsoever," Pereira said when asked if he had any doubt the call would have been reversed.

[Icness]

Lovie Smith has never & still can't manage timeouts & challenges correctly.

Jay Cutler was being questioned by some for not trusting Martz's system enough (some have said that he was taking too long in the pocket which led to sacks). This week he ran Martz's system correctly but is now being questioned for 4 ints (could it be that his receiver's timing is off if they are not where they should be, considering that the system asks Cutler to just throw it at a particular time to a particular location?).

I'll help on this one.
Part of the problem you are (correctly) seeing here is that Martz's timing system is based on the QB and the WRs reading the same coverage on each play. Each receiver has a certain set of options for each route based on how they see the coverage (is it man? press? cover 1? cover 2? where's the safety help? is there a blitz? inside technique by the corner? etc.), and Cutler is responsible for understanding what each receiver will see on each play. That does not mean that the receiver has to read it properly, but rather Cutler must know what option the player thinks he sees. To that end, when Martz was in Detroit, Kitna knew that every time Roy Williams saw press coverage with safety help inside, he would run an out-and-up, even if Kitna knew Williams was reading it wrong. The QB must know his receivers and their tendencies and vision.

That is very difficult to get perfect. Kurt Warner was amazing in that offense and he still had at least 5 throws almost every game where he and the receiver saw it differently. One of the biggest issues Warner always cited was that hsi own defense in practice had never presented the look of the game-day defense and they never got to work on it. Well, take a guess about the defensive complexity of Bears' practices. Here's a hint--no team in the league pracitces 11-on-11 less than the Bears. No team practices less man coverage or complicated defensive sets less than the Bears, except maybe Carolina. So when Cutler and the offense get on the field, they haven't seen the defenses, don't have a lot of collective experience in seeing and reading those looks together. With the added issues of Cutler trying to figure out which OL will fail on every play, it makes it even harder.

That's why Bears fans should have been SCREAMING for a veteran WR all summer, even if it would be a gameday inactive, just to help the young wideouts learn to read defenses and get in synch with Cutler. Look at your wideouts: Hester is in his 3rd year playing offense in his life; Knox came from a primitive offense in college where the only thing that mattered was speed; Aroma bounced around for years because his footwork is terrible and his routes inconsistent; Bennett has some synch with Cutler but he's just not an NFL talent, too deliberate in his movement. There is no experience here at all, and it shows.

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Lovie Smith has never & still can't manage timeouts & challenges correctly.

Jay Cutler was being questioned by some for not trusting Martz's system enough (some have said that he was taking too long in the pocket which led to sacks). This week he ran Martz's system correctly but is now being questioned for 4 ints (could it be that his receiver's timing is off if they are not where they should be, considering that the system asks Cutler to just throw it at a particular time to a particular location?).

I'll help on this one.
Part of the problem you are (correctly) seeing here is that Martz's timing system is based on the QB and the WRs reading the same coverage on each play. Each receiver has a certain set of options for each route based on how they see the coverage (is it man? press? cover 1? cover 2? where's the safety help? is there a blitz? inside technique by the corner? etc.), and Cutler is responsible for understanding what each receiver will see on each play. That does not mean that the receiver has to read it properly, but rather Cutler must know what option the player thinks he sees. To that end, when Martz was in Detroit, Kitna knew that every time Roy Williams saw press coverage with safety help inside, he would run an out-and-up, even if Kitna knew Williams was reading it wrong. The QB must know his receivers and their tendencies and vision.

That is very difficult to get perfect. Kurt Warner was amazing in that offense and he still had at least 5 throws almost every game where he and the receiver saw it differently. One of the biggest issues Warner always cited was that hsi own defense in practice had never presented the look of the game-day defense and they never got to work on it. Well, take a guess about the defensive complexity of Bears' practices. Here's a hint--no team in the league pracitces 11-on-11 less than the Bears. No team practices less man coverage or complicated defensive sets less than the Bears, except maybe Carolina. So when Cutler and the offense get on the field, they haven't seen the defenses, don't have a lot of collective experience in seeing and reading those looks together. With the added issues of Cutler trying to figure out which OL will fail on every play, it makes it even harder.

That's why Bears fans should have been SCREAMING for a veteran WR all summer, even if it would be a gameday inactive, just to help the young wideouts learn to read defenses and get in synch with Cutler. Look at your wideouts: Hester is in his 3rd year playing offense in his life; Knox came from a primitive offense in college where the only thing that mattered was speed; Aroma bounced around for years because his footwork is terrible and his routes inconsistent; Bennett has some synch with Cutler but he's just not an NFL talent, too deliberate in his movement. There is no experience here at all, and it shows.

GOOD POST!!!