10/27 Sacramento @ Minnesota 7:00

[Winter Wonder]

I thought he played well on offense, made some solid plays. I think he has improved a lot over last year, and can now create his shot and slash more.

Let's not over analyze one game, I think our expectations were a bit inflated from the nice preseason record. There will be some growing pains, but they will be ok.

True enough, and Wayne looked better in the second half. Maybe he looked worse to me at the start with Garcia shooting over him a bit and having a better game.

[LordBaldric]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

[LOBO 7]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

It's unbelievable that you can't see that Rambis is doing it for Kevin's own good. This is a very important lesson he's trying to teach Kevin, and until he learns it he will never live up to his potential and will never be a leader on a team.

[Dewey]

Huge disappointment to lose that game. At home versus a short-handed team with a slug for a #5 draft pick ... we looked like a bunch of goofs. I can just see Taylor gritting his teeth...

First lets cut the crap about Loves hustle ... he had like 10 boards the first half alone. When he was riding the pine the second half the Kings raped us on the O-boards with tons of second chances. I like Tollivers hustle, but he gave up some o-boards that led to points at critical moments so lets not make it sound so rosey.

Telfair pretty much screwed the pouch with a couple critical turnovers and also took a couple bad shots with planty of time on the clock - without even looking for a shooter (those are like turnovers)

Darko missed several easy bunnies under the basket and there is no excuse for a 7' center to miss those. That worries me - alot. At least he came back the second half and played some defense and blocked a few shots.

Glad to see Ellington get a shot, but he clearly is not the answer to a sarting SG. Stop it now.

No excuse for Johnson not playing more tonight. Clearly deserved more and we needed him.

Beasley struggles offensively playing off the ball and seemed confused.

No reason our wings could not make a backdoor cut for a layup/dunk ...

Cousins did not impress me whatsoever ... he appeared to be what I thought he was - a chump.

Rambis Rambis Rambis: It's one game, but I'm very concerned. He might have a system that he wants to impliment, but I don't think he really knows how to manage the game itself. Secondly, If they've actually spent as much time on defense as he's touted, then he better hire an assistant that really knows how to coach defense. Aslo, what about the emphasis on being a good passing team ... basically a catch-n-shoot if you ask me.

The refs had lots of quick whistles and made too many calls that will never be called 10 games into the seaosn. They always like to strut there crap early on.

[LOBO 7]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

Does the thought that Kevin Love isn't the most perfect human being on the planet scare you so much that you have to keep repeating the same one-sided BS?

[LordBaldric]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

It's unbelievable that you can't see that Rambis is doing it for Kevin's own good. This is a very important lesson he's trying to teach Kevin, and until he learns it he will never live up to his potential and will never be a leader on a team.

Is he going for the whole life lessons angle when he's screwing up the rest of the rotations on the team too? Even the clowns on Rubechat recognize the terrible coaching/rotations. Pull your head out of your ass.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

Does the thought that Kevin Love isn't the most perfect human being on the planet scare you so much that you have to keep repeating the same one-sided BS?

+1.
The way Love played defense turned me off and it's not like he was on fire on offense either, and no rebounds in the second half at all? Kevin, really?
I'm sure Love will bounce back next game but tonight wasn't his night.

[LordBaldric]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

Unbelievable. Does the thought that Rambis is actually a terrible coach scare you so much that you have to come up with this BS?

Does the thought that Kevin Love isn't the most perfect human being on the planet scare you so much that you have to keep repeating the same one-sided BS?

So I assume you changed your post after you realized the Rambis is teaching a life lesson to Kevin was f'ing moronic?

[LOBO 7]

[/quote]Is he going for the whole life lessons angle when he's screwing up the rest of the rotations on the team too? Even the clowns on Rubechat recognize the terrible coaching/rotations. Pull your head out of your ass.[/quote]

This is a deep team, maybe the deepest team in Wolves history, with 12 players who can contribute on any given night. That is a good thing, so we'll see a lot of different rotations all year long. That way, when someone isn't giving effort, they will be benched for someone who will give effort.
Pull YOUR head out of my ass.

[Dewey]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

This is what girls call TMI ... just a few thoughts or opinions would be adequate. Spread it around some

[LordBaldric]

Love's help defense has never been good and will never be very good. Physical limitations people. Despite that he's still out best player, and all you guys peeing your pants because he's not KG should get over it and deal with reality.

But because he's not the Big Ticket on D you would rather play vastly more flawed players rather than appreciate Love's own unique strengths.

Whatever. Get used to losing big time with your hero, Rambis.

[LOBO 7]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

This is what girls call TMI ... just a few thoughts or opinions would be adequate.

Whatever, I don't post often and I don't usually make huge posts, but like I said, I was personally offended by Love's effort tonight. Rather than posting "Love sucks" I posted exactly why I was offended by his effort and why I think Rambis is doing the right thing. Just read it, or don't read it, but don't act like I ruined your day by making a long post.

[younggunsmn]

I was one of the most vocal critcs of Love's on-court attitude and demeanor last year, but I fail to see what he did that was so horrible tonight to deserve being benched almost the whole 4th quarter.
His shot wasn't falling, and he got beat a couple times on offensive rebounds because he was contesting a shot, but you can say that about tolliver too. Unless he said something to a coach or teammate that we're not privy to here, I give the rotation tonight a big thumbs down.

He had a bad charging foul when he was trying to make something out of frustration. I can understand taking him out, pointing out the mistake, calming him down, and putting him back out there a couple minutes later. But the benching was uncalled for.

Tolliver was just as bad defensively, couldn't box out landry to save his life, and mediocre offensively. I don't care what the box score said.

Rambis said in the press they were going to limit Wes' minutes because of his hammy, so I can understand if he was on a minute restriction like Yao. But it made absolutely no sense to play Love less than half the game.

I didn't like his rotation at all. I'm guessing Kahn wanted to see some of Koufos since the decision to excercise his 2011/12 option has to be made by halloween (i think they should definitely excerise it).
There was no flow, no sense of "unit" or familiarity with the players. When telfair was in the game they couldn't execute anything offensively, and telfair usually ended up jack

Some coaches are playing checkers while the other coach is playing chess (childress for example).
It seems like Rambis is coaching a completely different game from the one I'm watching sometimes.

[LOBO 7]

Love's help defense has never been good and will never be very good. Physical limitations people. Despite that he's still out best player, and all you guys peeing your pants because he's not KG should get over it and deal with reality.

But because he's not the Big Ticket on D you would rather play vastly more flawed players rather than appreciate Love's own unique strengths.

Whatever. Get used to losing big time with your hero, Rambis.

We're obviously gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, I love Kevin Love. But I want to see him reach his full potential. It's not about his help defense, it's about his overall body language, lack of hustle, and his inability to have a leader's attitude. Rambis is not my hero, but I think he has the potential to be a very good coach. I don't normally get worked up on a message board, but the only thing that personally offends me on the basketball court is lack of effort or a sulking attitude. I have stated my case and I will now leave my computer to go blow off some steam.
Have a good night. 81 games to go.

[Dewey]

Let me preface this rant by saying that I love Kevin Love, and am pulling for him to reach his potential as much as anyone....

Love hit a couple 3's and grabbed a lot of rebounds in the first half. Other than that, he was TERRIBLE. Rambis did exactly what he should have done, and it was for Love's own good. If Love wants to be a leader on this team, or on any team in the future, playing the way he did tonight is unacceptable. Its fine to have a bad shooting night, but to act as lazy as I do on a Sunday afternoon, for the entire game, is unacceptable. One way or the other, Love is going to have a huge impact on this team this year. Whether or not it is a positive or negative impact is entirely between his ears. He can walk the walk and have the attitude of a leader, or he can singlehandedly ruin the chemistry on this team. Tolliver said it all in his post-game interview, saying that it is scrappy games like this when you find out a lot about your teammates, find out who is really willing to fight for you. I don't think he was taking a shot at Love, but Tolliver walked the walk out there and earned the minutes he got. Love showed that he wasn't at all willing to fight for his teammates. I don't know how long it will take Rambis to pound this lesson through Kevin's head, but he's going to keep on trying, and for his sake I hope Kevin learns that lesson soon. Until he learns that lesson he will never be the best player, or a leader, on this team or any other.
On the other hand, Its just one game. Maybe all his talk of a professional attitude this offseason is true, and maybe he just had a bad game and knew it, and had no problem with Rambis benching him in favor of Tolliver. But he has to prove that to us, or this will be a long season. If he returns to his old antics of sulking around like a 5 year old when things get tough, Tolliver may get more minutes than him all season long. Kevin owes all of us more than that, and I for one feel personally offended when he acts like this, and I imagine his teammates feel the same way.

Dig deep Kevin, stay patient Kurt.

This is what girls call TMI ... just a few thoughts or opinions would be adequate.

Whatever, I don't post often and I don't usually make huge posts, but like I said, I was personally offended by Love's effort tonight. Rather than posting "Love sucks" I posted exactly why I was offended by his effort and why I think Rambis is doing the right thing. Just read it, or don't read it, but don't act like I ruined your day by making a long post.

Just sayin

[SadKingsFan]

Huge disappointment to lose that game. At home versus a short-handed team with a slug for a #5 draft pick ... we looked like a bunch of goofs. I can just see Taylor gritting his teeth...

First lets cut the crap about Loves hustle ... he had like 10 boards the first half alone. When he was riding the pine the second half the Kings raped us on the O-boards with tons of second chances. I like Tollivers hustle, but he gave up some o-boards that led to points at critical moments so lets not make it sound so rosey.

Telfair pretty much screwed the pouch with a couple critical turnovers and also took a couple bad shots with planty of time on the clock - without even looking for a shooter (those are like turnovers)

Darko missed several easy bunnies under the basket and there is no excuse for a 7' center to miss those. That worries me - alot. At least he came back the second half and played some defense and blocked a few shots.

Glad to see Ellington get a shot, but he clearly is not the answer to a sarting SG. Stop it now.

No excuse for Johnson not playing more tonight. Clearly deserved more and we needed him.

Beasley struggles offensively playing off the ball and seemed confused.

No reason our wings could not make a backdoor cut for a layup/dunk ...

Cousins did not impress me whatsoever ... he appeared to be what I thought he was - a chump.

Rambis Rambis Rambis: It's one game, but I'm very concerned. He might have a system that he wants to impliment, but I don't think he really knows how to manage the game itself. Secondly, If they've actually spent as much time on defense as he's touted, then he better hire an assistant that really knows how to coach defense. Aslo, what about the emphasis on being a good passing team ... basically a catch-n-shoot if you ask me.

The refs had lots of quick whistles and made too many calls that will never be called 10 games into the seaosn. They always like to strut there crap early on.

Really?

[younggunsmn]

The only thing that really impressed me about cousins was his FT shooting. He's much too slow to be a dominant PF or C on either end of the court, and will struggle to score efficiently. He'll have his moments, but in the end I think he ends up a slightly above average as a starting C, which is not a bad thing to be.

[Klomp]

Meh he was better than I thought he'd be. Slightly impressed.

[theGreatRC]

Yeah Dewey, Cousins showed great poise in the fourth quarter and with 5 fouls to keep in the back of his head, he really played fantastic down the stretch. I liked what I saw from him tonight; he just needs to get into NBA type conditioning and he'll be great..I'll be watching him against New Jersey friday for sure.

Anyways, Ridnour, Beasley and Johnson impressed me the most during the game. If we can get Johnson in the open floor, he can be dangerous with his athleticism.

I liked Beasley because his attitude was to attack during the fourth quarter and got two and-1s and a couple of fouls. He rebounded nicely in the fourth too, but he needs to keep his dumbass decisions(fouling, passing) down. You can just tell he isn't comfortable looking for an open man once he has the ball and he always, ALWAYS wants the ball.

Ridnour will be a great backup PG once Flynn is 100%(Which also means less than 10 mins to Telfair). He just knows how to control the tempo and find open men and it's such a relief to have a PG who can stop on a dime and pop(Haven't seen that since Cassell and maybe Foye). Whoever starts at PG and whoever backups isn't a problem to me because both of them can handle the PG spot and I love that we have a little depth at the 1.

I can see Love was a little disinterested and his ego might have been hurt during the fourth quarter benching and i'm just as purplexed as he is. There is no reason one of your best players on your team should be on the bench no matter how he played the last 25~ minutes prior.

Our weakness on defense was definately inside scoring; Beno had an easy ass bounce pass to Casspi for the dunk to give them the lead for good and Landry, Cousins and Thompson were raping us by getting fouls down low.

Dissapointed with Ellington; he seemed to like shooting off the dribble tonight and wasn't knocking down big shots when we needed him the most..That last 3 he took was basically a turnover disguised as a shot attempt.

I'm pleased with Tolliver; I love the heart he showed and his blocks in the paint will help us greatly if he can do that at least once a night and get the team/crowed pumped. He also knocked down shots when we needed him, but he let some def. rebounds slip which gave the Kings another chance.

[SadKingsFan]

Great posts guys. Didn't realize this board was so busy.