Favre, broken.

[an_also]

How badly has Favre played?
October, 28, 2010
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By Kevin Seifert
Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre was not on the field during the early portion of practice Thursday, which was fully expected and doesn't have much bearing on whether he will start Sunday at the New England Patriots. Favre, who has two fractures in his left foot, has said the earliest he would try to practice is Friday.

This relative break in the news cycle gives us a chance to consider in further detail the darker part of this scenario. Will Favre's poor play this season factor in to coach Brad Childress' decision?

I've already suggested that the Vikings would have a hard time benching Favre outright after begging him to return and giving him a raise to at least $16 million in total compensation this season. But what about a benching masked by an injury? That might be a possibility, especially when you consider a unique and telling statistical analysis over at Brian Burke's Advanced NFL Stats.

Burke uses a metric called Win Probability Added (WPA). Essentially, it's a way to measure how a player's performance impacts his team's chances to win or lose. (Here is the complete explanation for those interested.)

We already know that Favre's 68.0 passer rating is the fourth worst among NFL quarterbacks. But the nuanced WPA paints a more dire picture. His WPA rating is by far the worst among 39 qualifiers. In fact, his standing in this metric is three times worse than the next-lowest rated quarterback.

One way of looking at this statistic is that no quarterback is hurting his team more than Favre -- not the Chicago Bears' Jay Cutler, not the Cincinnati Bengals' Carson Palmer not even Trent Edwards of Buffalo/Jacksonville. In fact, Favre is hurting his team three times as much as Cutler, who ranks one spot ahead of Favre in WPA.

Quoting Burke: "Everyone knows Favre isn't doing well, and we don't need fancy stats to tell us that. But when we actually quantify just how bad his play has been so far, it's eye-popping."

Indeed, anyone who has watched Favre commit 14 turnovers this season knows he hasn't been very good in 2010. But Burke's metric reflects the type of analysis NFL teams often make, detailing what the mistakes lead to and whether they are made up for in other situations. When your quarterback is not only struggling, but is hurting your team far more than any other quarterback in the league, would you at least consider a change?

[emunney]

I bet he complicated his injury with that celebration. It was like he was stomping the life out of his own ankle.

[Reddeye]

http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Being_Brett_Favre_may_only_get_him_one_more_shot102910

[Marley2Hendrix]

FYI, in the previous article, Rodgers ranks third in WPA.

[an_also]

FYI, in the previous article, Rodgers ranks third in WPA.

you have a link to the WPA list?

[trwi7]

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=QB

[Marley2Hendrix]

BTW, Josh Freeman, All he does is win football games.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

IT'S A MIRACLE!

[humanrefutation]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5794477

Thursday, November 11, 2010
Brett Favre won't return for 2011
ESPN.com news services

Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre said this would be his last season at a news conference in August.

"I can promise you this: Not that I have ever set out as a goal to play 20 years, it's 20 years and I'm done. This is the last year of my contract," he said when the season began.

But, perhaps because Favre has made a habit of changing his mind, the NFL Network asked the question again Thursday.

Will Favre return to play in 2011?

"No," said Favre, in an interview that will air in its entirety on Sunday on the NFL Network.

Favre passed for a career-best 446 yards in the Vikings' comeback victory against the Arizona Cardinals last week. But the team is 3-5 headed into an NFC North game at Chicago Sunday.

After leading the Vikings to the NFC title game last season, Favre had hoped to help the Vikings to the Super Bowl. Now, he is focused on getting his team back in playoff contention.

"That's my goal," said Favre, when asked by the NFL Network if the postseason was a possibility. "But I am thinking we have to win this game and that gives us hope for the next one.

"Small step right now."

[Newz]

BTW, Josh Freeman, All he does is win football games.

Josh Freeman is awesome. So is Mike Williams.

[BucksRuleAll22]

Chilly is a big talker and a bigger pussy. MANY times he's said he's "thought about" benching Favre. But he doesn't have the balls. Pathetic.

How many times should Favre of been benched while he was on the Packers? I remember Mike Sherman being just as big as a pussy.

[Newz]

Chilly >= Mike Sherman

IMO. I thought Sherman was awful... But I guess that was more because I thought he was awful as a GM.

[Flames24Rulz]

I thought of Sherman as an average coach but a real awful GM. I think I've been much tougher on MM than I ever was on Sherman's coaching.

Of course, I was like 12-16 during Sherman's tenure too.

[El Duderino]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5794477

Thursday, November 11, 2010
Brett Favre won't return for 2011
ESPN.com news services

Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre said this would be his last season at a news conference in August.

"I can promise you this: Not that I have ever set out as a goal to play 20 years, it's 20 years and I'm done. This is the last year of my contract," he said when the season began.

But, perhaps because Favre has made a habit of changing his mind, the NFL Network asked the question again Thursday.

Will Favre return to play in 2011?

"No," said Favre, in an interview that will air in its entirety on Sunday on the NFL Network.

Favre passed for a career-best 446 yards in the Vikings' comeback victory against the Arizona Cardinals last week. But the team is 3-5 headed into an NFC North game at Chicago Sunday.

After leading the Vikings to the NFC title game last season, Favre had hoped to help the Vikings to the Super Bowl. Now, he is focused on getting his team back in playoff contention.

"That's my goal," said Favre, when asked by the NFL Network if the postseason was a possibility. "But I am thinking we have to win this game and that gives us hope for the next one.

"Small step right now."

I actually believe him this time, i'd be extremely surprised if he played next year.

[humanrefutation]

I actually believe him this time, i'd be extremely surprised if he played next year.

I agree. I would be surprised if he didn't retire. I'd also be similarly surprised if he didn't unretire again. With Favre, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Kerb Hohl]

My opinion of Favre is that he's going to retire right after the year and mean it.

Once again, I don't believe he EVER has wanted to retire in these past 3 or 4 seasons.

[Wilford Brimley]

mortreport

Ed Werder also reporting that Favre felt sharp pain in rt. shoulder on Saturday, perhaps in same biceps area as 2008. And the drama beats on

[MickeyDavis]

First comment on JSonline:

Why does Favre always reveal injuries either just prior to a big game or just after a bad one?