GT Fri Oct 29th: Pacers @ Bobcats 7:00 pm

[BigSlam]

u really think he is one dimensional? haha he is an elite scorer and he also had a steal and 2 blocks..he had betters stats then Crash or watever his name is

Ya, those TEN extra shots that Granger took in order to score only FOUR more points than Crash was really worth it!!

It was really worth it because the Pacers got the win.

And Granger with those sorts of stats lead your team to 32 wins last season.

[Indy2thaWindy]

Granger missed like 20 games last season.

[granger33]

considering ur team had a point guard and we had a bunch of sophmores and rookies i would hope ur team had more wins then us haha. if granger cant hit then he contributes on the defensive end. ok wallace drives more so what..hes a driver and granger is a shooter. the point is granger is a better player haha

[Fred Williamson]

considering ur team had a point guard and we had a bunch of sophmores and rookies i would hope ur team had more wins then us haha. if granger cant hit then he contributes on the defensive end. ok wallace drives more so what..hes a driver and granger is a shooter. the point is granger is a better player haha

No disrespect to your franchise player but Wallace is the better rebounder, slasher, and defender. Me and probably 80% of RGM would take him over Granger's overrated ass.

[granger33]

since when was it bad to score points..theres nutin overrated about that..u dont watch pacer games to assume hes overrated..only reason ur player gets states like that is cuz no one on ur team can rebound or score haha..anyone that would take wallace or granger is stupid and doesnt know basketball

[SWedd523]

Are Bobcats fans really arguing with Pacers fans about who is better? That's like saying, "My **** sandwich tastes better than your **** sandwich!"



Neither team is anything special. Though, Crash is better than Granger--and cheaper.

[Battery]

Where was DJ in the second half? We're in deep sh*t of this guy is our starting point guard all season. DJ in this game was the definition of misleading stats. Had 14 points at the half and then completely disappeared until he hit a 3 with around 3 minutes left in the game. I don't even think he had any assists either. Maybe like 1 or 2 in the second half. We cannot win with an inconsistent point guard.

And Crash playing 40 plus minutes every night is going to wear him out. Defensively we don't look as good as last season. Perhaps it's because DJ cannot put pressure on the opposing point like Raymond did.

The only positive that came out of this game was Henderson finally showing a pulse.

[Indy2thaWindy]

Granger has a season where he was hampered with injuries and now he's overrated. Nobody is bashing Gerald Wallace but if Granger didn't miss 19 of the 21 games before the All-star break, Gerald Wallace would have been sitting at home instead of playing in the All-star game. Wallace is a good hustle player and can score but Granger can carry a team by himself, Wallace can't. Pacers just need to have a healthy Granger.

[daschysta]

Granger is a far better player than Wallace. Granger fills up block and steal stats as well. He also isn't a bad defender, AND if you would look at stats from his healthy season can get to the line alot for a shooter.

The only thing that wallace is significantly better at is rebounding, which is relatively unimportant coming from a wing position, where scoring is the premium. Also granger had his shot going, i expect him to keep shooting it, he has a driving game when the shots aren't falling.

You can build an offense around granger, where as wallace, while a good defender isn't good enough at it to anchor a team, and he is easily shut down by sagging off of him because he can't shoot a lick.

[dmutombo321]

...danny Granger has the laziest most one dimensional game ever

Ya, I'm thinking I might have given them too much credit in my preseason predictions. They are a pretty ordinary team and Granger aint all that hot.

Slam, I thought you were being sarcastic with this post at first.

Granger aint all that hot????

The man just dropped 33 points on us while shooting over 50% from the field and 54% from beyond the arc. He took over the game down the stretch scoring 13 in the 4th quarter alone including a 4 point play in the final 3 minutes.

He's not flashy but he's effective and is a deadlier scorer than anyone we've ever had on our roster. When he is healthy (which really is his biggest challenge) he is a bonafide allstar; 25 point, 5 rebound, 3 assist player on 45% shooting with 40%+ from downtown.

[Bassman]

I see no value in a pis***g contest between Crash and Grainger. Danny is a better shooter/scorer, and a decent defender. Wallace is a better defender, rebounder, and a good scorer. Both are quality players but neither are superstars. We should have had Grainger when we could have drafted him ahead of the Pacers.

Neither team is looking like world beaters. Pacers have something going with Hibbert..he's looking pretty good. Tyler showed he's got some game also. Bobcats must get some low post game going. Agree that DJ just isn't getting it done. He looks better than last season, but he does little to create shots for others or run the half-court game effectively.

For Charlotte it's the same old tune; we need a big who can score and defend in the post, a PG who can run an offense, and a deadly shooter to establish an outside threat.

[Boneman2]

Would anyone bite on Ford? Expiring....

[Battery]

Would anyone bite on Ford? Expiring....

Ford is gimpy. Not sure if we can afford to have another high injury risk player taking up another roster spot. Also, not really sure if we have anything to trade you guys because our roster is kind of thin.

[Marvel]

Why is everyone hating on Granger,dude can flat out score and he's not just a shooter.I mean he gets to the line at a good rate,he can create his own offense,his driving game has gotten a lot better.He's a solid defender.He took over the game down the stretch and without him the Pacers lose by double digits.Shooting 12-23 from the field and 6-11 from 3s ain't nothing to jeer about either.

About tonights game,Jax needs to stop complaining and just play.Too many times while he was complaining about not getting a call,(surprised he wasn't awarded a tech for his troubles) the Pacers were already down the court running their offense.....just get back and play some fricking D Jax......F sakes.
I'm sick of his act too,when he's playing the whinging,moaning Jax we often lose,but when he's playing the "Make Love to Pressure" Jax we often win.He's our leader,captain... play your position Jax.

[BigSlam]

Slam, I thought you were being sarcastic with this post at first.

Granger aint all that hot????

The man just dropped 33 points on us while shooting over 50% from the field and 54% from beyond the arc. He took over the game down the stretch scoring 13 in the 4th quarter alone including a 4 point play in the final 3 minutes.

He's not flashy but he's effective and is a deadlier scorer than anyone we've ever had on our roster. When he is healthy (which really is his biggest challenge) he is a bonafide allstar; 25 point, 5 rebound, 3 assist player on 45% shooting with 40%+ from downtown.

When JRich was here and allowed to jack up seven three point attempts per game he was putting up 22 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists on 44% shooting with 41% from downtown.

So I guess that makes him a bonafide all star too?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/351 ... Ec2qeQPKB4

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Why is everyone hating on Granger,dude can flat out score and he's not just a shooter.I mean he gets to the line at a good rate,he can create his own offense,his driving game has gotten a lot better.He's a solid defender.He took over the game down the stretch and without him the Pacers lose by double digits.Shooting 12-23 from the field and 6-11 from 3s ain't nothing to jeer about either.

About tonights game,Jax needs to stop complaining and just play.Too many times while he was complaining about not getting a call,(surprised he wasn't awarded a tech for his troubles) the Pacers were already down the court running their offense.....just get back and play some fricking D Jax......F sakes.
I'm sick of his act too,when he's playing the whinging,moaning Jax we often lose,but when he's playing the "Make Love to Pressure" Jax we often win.He's our leader,captain... play your position Jax.

I don't know about that. I made a comment durign a half time break that Grager was yet to shoot a free throw. At the end he shot whooping 4 free throws. For clearer perspective Wallace shot 18!.

I agree he was crucial for Pacers to even stay in the game. On the other hand he fouled out and if DJ or Jax would make a 3pt shot, he wouldn't play in OT, which could be signifiacant disadvantage for Indiana.

[el-mago]

Granger has a season where he was hampered with injuries and now he's overrated. Nobody is bashing Gerald Wallace but if Granger didn't miss 19 of the 21 games before the All-star break, Gerald Wallace would have been sitting at home instead of playing in the All-star game. Wallace is a good hustle player and can score but Granger can carry a team by himself, Wallace can't. Pacers just need to have a healthy Granger.

you obviously don't know what you're talking about. How many cats games did you watch last year that were not against Indiana ? In all honesty i didn't have any opinion on Granger until i actually watched him play regularly. And i came to the conclusion that he sucks balls. He has range, can score and that's it. His performance at the Worlds was laughable. He is not the first nor the last to put up 'all star like' numbers in a depleted bunch. Guys like Maggette, J-Rich, Johnson, Ellis, Butler did it. I'd take crash any day of the week.

[fatlever]

granger is at best a 2nd option on a good playoff type team. if he is your best player and highest paid player, your franchise is in trouble.... but the same could be said for jax and wallace and the bobcats. both players have similar value. both guys came up huge in the 4th quarter. unfortunately the rest of the pacers made more plays than the rest of the bobcats.

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They just made more treys. Imagine Larry Brown if they would hav chaned it back and there were only two points baskets.