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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#161 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:20 pm

The american league pass is like the one last year. It works using the hotshield method (connect) and once the game starts you can disconnect to get full speed of your internet connection.

However after seeing the international one, it is difficult to go back to the regular one. The international is MUCH MUCH better quality. Makes no sense how the american one is sub par quality. International is truly HD where as american league pass is tv quality.

Downside to international method is that there is no way around the blackouts. And there are lots lots blackout games. Basically no raptor games or any game broadcasted on canadian tv. On average day/night there is two basketball games broad casted so there are lots of blackout games on top of the raptor games.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#162 » by marcroboy » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:26 pm

OK so here's how I understand the black out issue:

American League pass:
- not so great quality
- can watch Raptor games if sign up with an American email or use a US proxy(e.g. Hotspotsheild)
- games that are on US national TV will be blacked out.


Canadian(International) League pass:
- GREAT quality
- Raps games are blacked out with no way around it*
*unless you use an non US/Canadian proxy, which is hard to find.




Is this correct?
Also, if we sign up for the American one, do we automatically get the Canadian league pass?
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#163 » by dacrusha » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:48 pm

knickerbocker2k2 wrote:The american league pass is like the one last year. It works using the hotshield method (connect) and once the game starts you can disconnect to get full speed of your internet connection.

However after seeing the international one, it is difficult to go back to the regular one. The international is MUCH MUCH better quality. Makes no sense how the american one is sub par quality. International is truly HD where as american league pass is tv quality.

Downside to international method is that there is no way around the blackouts. And there are lots lots blackout games. Basically no raptor games or any game broadcasted on canadian tv. On average day/night there is two basketball games broad casted so there are lots of blackout games on top of the raptor games.


So, basically you have a choice: American site with lower quality Raptor games or International site with high quality, but zero Raptor content.

I'd say the choice is clear.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#164 » by Platapie » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:13 am

dacrusha wrote:
knickerbocker2k2 wrote:The american league pass is like the one last year. It works using the hotshield method (connect) and once the game starts you can disconnect to get full speed of your internet connection.

However after seeing the international one, it is difficult to go back to the regular one. The international is MUCH MUCH better quality. Makes no sense how the american one is sub par quality. International is truly HD where as american league pass is tv quality.

Downside to international method is that there is no way around the blackouts. And there are lots lots blackout games. Basically no raptor games or any game broadcasted on canadian tv. On average day/night there is two basketball games broad casted so there are lots of blackout games on top of the raptor games.


So, basically you have a choice: American site with lower quality Raptor games or International site with high quality, but zero Raptor content.

I'd say the choice is clear.


It's not so clear. I like watching a lot of NBA teams if I get the chance, and the International one is badass. Not only is the quality great, but you can full screen it (instead of having that horrendous scoreboard at the top.

Truly excellent/I hope the American version switches over.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#165 » by supersub15 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:18 am

Question to those who've already done it: I signed up to the US version during the preview period, but now want to sign up for good. Can I use a Canadian credit card?
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#166 » by Platapie » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:21 am

supersub15 wrote:Question to those who've already done it: I signed up to the US version during the preview period, but now want to sign up for good. Can I use a Canadian credit card?


Yes. They don't give a ****. All that matters is the IP when you connect.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#167 » by Platapie » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:23 am

marcroboy wrote:OK so here's how I understand the black out issue:

American League pass:
- not so great quality
- can watch Raptor games if sign up with an American email or use a US proxy(e.g. Hotspotsheild)
- games that are on US national TV will be blacked out.


Canadian(International) League pass:
- GREAT quality
- Raps games are blacked out with no way around it




Is this correct?
Also, if we sign up for the American one, do we automatically get the Canadian league pass?


Correct. Except for the part about getting both, and that's the kicker.

You can only sign up/sign in to the American one now if you sign in from an American IP. If you have an International IP, it forwards you to ILP. So you need to choose which you want. I'm pretty torn myself.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#168 » by darth_federer » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:26 am

marcroboy wrote:OK so here's how I understand the black out issue:

American League pass:
- not so great quality
- can watch Raptor games if sign up with an American email or use a US proxy(e.g. Hotspotsheild)
- games that are on US national TV will be blacked out.


Canadian(International) League pass:
- GREAT quality
- Raps games are blacked out with no way around it




Is this correct?
Also, if we sign up for the American one, do we automatically get the Canadian league pass?


Are you sure? Some Italian fans on this forum say that they watch Raptor games in Italy.

I think you can watch Raptors games if you have an international IP on International League Pass
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#169 » by Platapie » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:29 am

darth_federer wrote:
marcroboy wrote:OK so here's how I understand the black out issue:

American League pass:
- not so great quality
- can watch Raptor games if sign up with an American email or use a US proxy(e.g. Hotspotsheild)
- games that are on US national TV will be blacked out.


Canadian(International) League pass:
- GREAT quality
- Raps games are blacked out with no way around it




Is this correct?
Also, if we sign up for the American one, do we automatically get the Canadian league pass?


Are you sure? Some Italian fans on this forum say that they watch Raptor games in Italy.

I think you can watch Raptors games if you have an international IP on International League Pass


Sorry I forgot to mention this. Most of the Blackouts only apply to Canadians in Canada (for Raptor games). If you are International, you can watch the Raptors no problem, and you get the best of both worlds. There are international VPN's, but tough to get the bandwidth required over one of those for the good quality feeds.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#170 » by Throwback24 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:38 am

Platapie wrote:
supersub15 wrote:Question to those who've already done it: I signed up to the US version during the preview period, but now want to sign up for good. Can I use a Canadian credit card?


Yes. They don't give a ****. All that matters is the IP when you connect.


So all I have to do is use hotspotshield or w/e and get a American IP and then purchase it using my Canadian credit card lol?

But they'll know, my billing address is Canadian. This is weird.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#171 » by n0ohpyt » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:33 am

knickerbocker2k2 wrote:The american league pass is like the one last year. It works using the hotshield method (connect) and once the game starts you can disconnect to get full speed of your internet connection.


Are we sure this is the case now? I recall a few days ago folks were saying how they had to leave hotspot shield on while watching the game. I noticed that the games would eventually stop running the first few days the service was up, but now it seems to let me play the game without running hotspot shield. If in fact we do need to leave it on, I'm concerned about this supposed bandwidth limit with hotspot shield.

Anyone know anything about either of these issues?
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#172 » by marcroboy » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:37 am

darth_federer wrote:
Are you sure? Some Italian fans on this forum say that they watch Raptor games in Italy.

I think you can watch Raptors games if you have an international IP on International League Pass

Just double checked it. The International League pass won't work with an US IP.

Haven't explored the European proxy route, but it would make sense that it works since there's no local market to conflict with over there. If there's a cheap, fast and reliable European proxy option,I'd buy that and the international league pass in a heartbeat.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#173 » by EH15 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:54 am

There has to be a good European proxy out there. I'd even pay for one. It'd basically mean getting every single game; no black outs at all. Instead of people asking the same questions over and over again, how bout everyone read the thread, and go look for a working European proxy and report back...
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#174 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 2:05 am

n0ohpyt wrote:Are we sure this is the case now? I recall a few days ago folks were saying how they had to leave hotspot shield on while watching the game. I noticed that the games would eventually stop running the first few days the service was up, but now it seems to let me play the game without running hotspot shield. If in fact we do need to leave it on, I'm concerned about this supposed bandwidth limit with hotspot shield.

Anyone know anything about either of these issues?


Yes. Last year Canada/USA used regular nba league pass. This year Canada is with international league pass and that is why hotshield is not working. However the American league pass is still same as last year and with that you can use hotshield. I tested it out and it is working. Hotshield has 3gig per month cap so it is best to log in and disconnect once the game console is up and running.

I can't foresee any solution to the NBA league pass.for international. You would have to use international IP or VPN. It is difficult to find VPN that transfer at 3mbs (this is what you would need for full HD). This would probably cost $15 per month. You are looking at 1.5gig per game so you would need high premium.

I was resigned about not getting Raps content and was to get international league pass anyway. You can't beat the quality and there was no buffering. However I found out it was not the normal ESPN/TNT that will get blocked out but any game broadcasted on Canadian tv. This is a lot of games to be blacked out. Literally 2-3 games per night. That is ridiculous given that most good games can be found on Canadian tv.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#175 » by COY0607 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 2:13 am

for some reason nbalp would not let me log on when i had the hotspot shield running, and as soon as i disconnected it everything was fine.......dose anyone know what the problem is and how i can get around it
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#176 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 2:16 am

COY0607 wrote:for some reason nbalp would not let me log on when i had the hotspot shield running, and as soon as i disconnected it everything was fine.......dose anyone know what the problem is and how i can get around it


make sure you delete cookies/cache before entering website. also i noticed certain hotshield ip don't mask your location. so try disconnecting/reconnecting for different ip.
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Re: NBA League Pass related questions 

Post#177 » by Dalek » Mon Nov 1, 2010 3:23 am

I was wondering if the on-demand archived games will also be blacked out. Right now I can access everything, but I wonder if they will be available going forward. I rarely get to watch the Raps live so this would be huge if I could watch it after the fact. Anyone know if the blackout is also in effect for on-demand games?
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Post#178 » by dailo23 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 4:28 am

so has anyone been able to try logging into league pass international with a non canadian/us IP address? Also please let us know the blackout situation
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Post#179 » by Platapie » Mon Nov 1, 2010 10:38 am

dailo23 wrote:so has anyone been able to try logging into league pass international with a non canadian/us IP address? Also please let us know the blackout situation


Yes, and it works fine + Raptors are easily accessible. I pay for my VPN service (I use VPN for a ton of stuff), and have fast International ones. The problem is it's hard to get the throughput you're looking for (if you care about the top quality).
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Re: NBA League Pass: Choice Package 

Post#180 » by ranger001 » Mon Nov 1, 2010 2:37 pm

knickerbocker2k2 wrote:2. Last year we could use hotshield or proxy to log in and once logged in, disconnected, thus using full speed of your internet connection. Now you will have to stay logged in to the proxy or hotshield (this is not even possible this year). It is expensive finding a good proxy or hotshield service that is based out of Europe. For all practical purposes it is extremely difficult to get league pass as way of watching Raptor games.

This year you can still login to hotspot, connect to league pass, disconnect from hotspot and still be connected to league pass. It works fine.

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