2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[pspot]

Was reading on the trade board that Peja might be traded (was just speculation) but I'm bored and was thinking of a threeway to get the Raps involved

Cha get: Jose, Banks and Dorsey
NO get: Diop, Diaw and TPE
Raps get: Okafor, Peja and Augustin

TPE used to move Jose, bring in a defensive C and try out a young PG for a year. Peja would definitely give the Raps a late game threat but hopefully an asset that could be moved at the deadline.

NO and Cha do it for cap relief

[Fairview4Life]

Was reading on the trade board that Peja might be traded (was just speculation) but I'm bored and was thinking of a threeway to get the Raps involved

Cha get: Jose, Banks and Dorsey
NO get: Diop, Diaw and TPE
Raps get: Okafor, Peja and Augustin

TPE used to move Jose, bring in a defensive C and try out a young PG for a year. Peja would definitely give the Raps a late game threat but hopefully an asset that could be moved at the deadline.

NO and Cha do it for cap relief

Okafor is not very good and his contract is significantly worse than Jose's. No one is trading for Okafor unless he comes with Chris Paul, or a boatload of draft picks.

[Blade_Runner]

To Toronto:
Agent Zero

To Washington:
Jose Calderon
Marcus Banks
Reggie Evans

Sorry there wasn't a 'throw up I am a cancer' smilie

[Morris_Shatford]

Was reading on the trade board that Peja might be traded (was just speculation) but I'm bored and was thinking of a threeway to get the Raps involved

Cha get: Jose, Banks and Dorsey
NO get: Diop, Diaw and TPE
Raps get: Okafor, Peja and Augustin

TPE used to move Jose, bring in a defensive C and try out a young PG for a year. Peja would definitely give the Raps a late game threat but hopefully an asset that could be moved at the deadline.

NO and Cha do it for cap relief

That puts us in tax territory I think?
However I do agree in principal that we could be part of a three team deal that facilitates New Orleans moving both Peja and Okafor.

We can add 9-ish million in salary and stay under the tax threshold.
In theory we could move some salary and the TPE to facilitate New Orleans being able to absorb salary (IE taking Okafor back and send out about 2m in salary elsewhere)

But I think in that case Toronto would need some butter by way of the third teams pick, or Marcus Thornton etc.

[pspot]

so Augustin and moving Jose isn't considered enough butter

Mia for NO 1st swap?

[Morris_Shatford]

Was reading on the trade board that Peja might be traded (was just speculation) but I'm bored and was thinking of a threeway to get the Raps involved

Cha get: Jose, Banks and Dorsey
NO get: Diop, Diaw and TPE
Raps get: Okafor, Peja and Augustin

TPE used to move Jose, bring in a defensive C and try out a young PG for a year. Peja would definitely give the Raps a late game threat but hopefully an asset that could be moved at the deadline.

NO and Cha do it for cap relief

Okafor is not very good and his contract is significantly worse than Jose's. No one is trading for Okafor unless he comes with Chris Paul, or a boatload of draft picks.

In our line-up he would be considered excellent;
He averaged more OREB's then Bosh did last season. He would instantly become the best function big on the roster.

His contract is painful, but if we are unloading something like Jose which is expensive and unnecessary for a guy who is expensive and fills a need and also happens to come with some butter then by all means.

[pspot]

I also don't think his contract is that bad, your starting front court for under 25million per is not bad IMO.

Also Okafor brings leadership and shot blocking. He's a complimentary player to the current roster

[Morris_Shatford]

I also don't think his contract is that bad, your starting front court for under 25million per is not bad IMO.

Also Okafor brings leadership and shot blocking. He's a complimentary player to the current roster

Okafor for a bigman has been pretty darn healthy which is a rarity.
That makes his contract more palatable (if we move Jose's)

His offensive game has regressed to pretty well putbacks and the odd dunk, however he is still a solid rebounder on the offensive end and he actually steps in front of players heading to the hoop which would in theory do something to mask our wing defense.

[NH]

Raptors trade: Jose, Derozan, Alabi, Miami 2011 pick + TPE
GSW trades: Monta Ellis + A Biedrins.

GSW is still Steph Curry's team, and will get players who can make their team more balanced. This also helps them cut costs. Raps need a guy who can create his own offense and antoher guy who can rebound.

[Qdogg17]

Dec 15th trade:

To Indiana-
Amir Johnson
Ed Davis
Julian Wright
1st round pick(Toronto, top 10 protected)

To Toronto-
Roy Hibbert
James Posey

Indiana gets potential, draft pick and cap flexibility

Toronto gets a beast in Hibbert and move Bargs to PF

C- Hibbert/Andersen/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Evans/Dorsey
SF- Kleiza/Weems/Posey
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Posey
PG- Jack/Calderon/Banks

[Morris_Shatford]

Raptors trade: Jose, Derozan, Alabi, Miami 2011 pick + TPE
GSW trades: Monta Ellis + A Biedrins.

GSW is still Steph Curry's team, and will get players who can make their team more balanced. This also helps them cut costs. Raps need a guy who can create his own offense and antoher guy who can rebound.

While the masses will disagree with me,
Biedrins is too good a value in his contract for Golden State to simply move for parts.

I don't see him being available, the guy is 24 a fairly solid rebounder and is making the same scratch as Jose.

Ellis on the other hand,
Its a bad contract tied to a guy who can score in bunches but is a huge blackhole when forced to play the two which is where I suspect we would park him.

I think he could be had, however if we want him is another story.

[Morris_Shatford]

Dec 15th trade:

To Indiana-
Amir Johnson
Ed Davis
Julian Wright
1st round pick(Toronto, top 10 protected)

To Toronto-
Roy Hibbert
James Posey

Indiana gets potential, draft pick and cap flexibility

Toronto gets a beast in Hibbert and move Bargs to PF

C- Hibbert/Andersen/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Evans/Dorsey
SF- Kleiza/Weems/Posey
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Posey
PG- Jack/Calderon/Banks

That is a very steep price to pay for Hibbert,
I like him, I think he is solid.

However I am not sold on the double double machine that Hibbert has become this season, he is averaging 17PPG, 10RPG, 5APG, and 3BPG

I don't think that is going to last forever, maybe I am wrong.

[Qdogg17]

Small trade after Ed Davis returns:

To Indiana-
David Andersen

To Toronto-
Dantay Jones
2nd round pick

Why for Indy- They get a much needed PF who is actually servicible. They shed Jones' contract and pick up an expiring.

Why for TO- They balance out their roster after Davis returns. Take a chance on a wing since Wright hasn't shown them much. Gain another pick.

Roster:

C- Bargnani/Johnson/Alabi
PF- Evans/Davis/Dorsey
SF- Kleiza/Weems/Wright
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Jones
PG- Jack/Calderon/Banks

[Qdogg17]

Screw it. Big rebuild to try and make the playoffs!

Trade 1:

To Denver-
Reggie Evans
Sonny Weems

To Toronto-
J.R. Smith

Trade 2:

To New Orleans:
TPE
1st round pick(Miami)

To Toronto-
Emeka Okafor

Trade 3:

To Indiana-
David Andersen

To Toronto-
Dantay Jones
2nd round pick

Trade 4:

To Cleveland-
Jose Calderon
Small TPE
2nd round pick

To Toronto-
Mo Williams

All trades are self explanatory and have been discussed in various ways many times.

Raps Roster:

C- Okafor/Johnson/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Davis/Dorsey
SF- Derozan/Kleiza/Wright
SG- Smith/Barbosa/Jones
PG- Williams/Jack/Banks

[HomieOmey]

Pretty critical Buck fan liked the idea on the trade board. Not a homerun deal, but I think it's a good step in the rebuilding process:

Mike Redd, Drew Gooden, and CDR

for

Jose, Reggie Evans, J. Wright, and David Anderson.
--

Bargnani, (Amir)
Amir, *Ed Davis, Gooden
Kleiza, CDR/Weems
DD, Barbosa
Jack, (Barbosa), Banks

Drew Gooden's contract is hardly better than Jose's seeing how it's longer, but it is smaller, which might make it more tradeable for Toronto. CDR has more potential than Wright, and can hopefully fit right in with Toronto. If not, he can be packaged with another player. This trade forces Triano to start Amir, which could help with his development. It's step one in a long process to better balance Toronto's roster and improve the financial spread.

Possible second trade to get rid of Gooden: Gooden for Posey, trade exception for Jones or Dunleavy/Ford. Or Gooden + CDR for Posey.

[timdunkit]

To Memphis: Demar Derozan, Ed Davis and future first round draft pick with top 10 protection for 3 years, then top 5 then top 3 the next 2 years


To Toronto: OJ Mayo , Thabeet

For Memphis ... they avoid having to pay Mayo (considering they paid Conley/Gay and Gasol is up next). They also get a nice replacement in Ed in case ZBo bolts in the offseason who provides a solid defensive frontcourt with Gasol for the future. DD becomes Mayo's replacement, who will be easier to retain when its extension time and has a one year longer retention period then Mayo.

For Toronto ... we pick up the best player in the deal (Mayo) and is probably the one with the most all-star potential. We pick up a true Centre though he comes with a heavy tag (aka high bust potential). We give up a future pick in the process ... and while most people hate it, relaize we have to be good or medicore for the most part to give up the pick. As long as we suck, the pick is ours ... Losing Ed hurts but we have a glut of PF's so this should balance things out.

[HomieOmey]

To Memphis: Demar Derozan, Ed Davis and future first round draft pick with top 10 protection for 3 years, then top 5 then top 3 the next 2 years


To Toronto: OJ Mayo , Thabeet

For Memphis ... they avoid having to pay Mayo (considering they paid Conley/Gay and Gasol is up next). They also get a nice replacement in Ed in case ZBo bolts in the offseason who provides a solid defensive frontcourt with Gasol for the future. DD becomes Mayo's replacement, who will be easier to retain when its extension time and has a one year longer retention period then Mayo.

For Toronto ... we pick up the best player in the deal (Mayo) and is probably the one with the most all-star potential. We pick up a true Centre though he comes with a heavy tag (aka high bust potential). We give up a future pick in the process ... and while most people hate it, relaize we have to be good or medicore for the most part to give up the pick. As long as we suck, the pick is ours ... Losing Ed hurts but we have a glut of PF's so this should balance things out.

Interesting idea that helps Memphis save a boat load of money. Might as well wait until we see how Ed Davis looks with this roster though. If he shows he can put up decent stats, that makes the trade that much more appealing to Memphis. As is, I can't see them doing it. Seeing how Ed Davis would hopefully either make Memphis definitely want to do it or make Toronto want to pass.

Potential home run for Toronto, hard to pass up. If we suck, we go into next season with a pretty complete starting five full of potential. If we make the playoffs, it's probably because we have a pretty strong 1-2 punch with Mayo and Bargnani.

[RapsGM]

To Memphis: Demar Derozan, Ed Davis and future first round draft pick with top 10 protection for 3 years, then top 5 then top 3 the next 2 years


To Toronto: OJ Mayo , Thabeet

For Memphis ... they avoid having to pay Mayo (considering they paid Conley/Gay and Gasol is up next). They also get a nice replacement in Ed in case ZBo bolts in the offseason who provides a solid defensive frontcourt with Gasol for the future. DD becomes Mayo's replacement, who will be easier to retain when its extension time and has a one year longer retention period then Mayo.

For Toronto ... we pick up the best player in the deal (Mayo) and is probably the one with the most all-star potential. We pick up a true Centre though he comes with a heavy tag (aka high bust potential). We give up a future pick in the process ... and while most people hate it, relaize we have to be good or medicore for the most part to give up the pick. As long as we suck, the pick is ours ... Losing Ed hurts but we have a glut of PF's so this should balance things out.

Interesting idea that helps Memphis save a boat load of money. Might as well wait until we see how Ed Davis looks with this roster though. If he shows he can put up decent stats, that makes the trade that much more appealing to Memphis. As is, I can't see them doing it. Seeing how Ed Davis would hopefully either make Memphis definitely want to do it or make Toronto want to pass.

Potential home run for Toronto, hard to pass up. If we suck, we go into next season with a pretty complete starting five full of potential. If we make the playoffs, it's probably because we have a pretty strong 1-2 punch with Mayo and Bargnani.

Depending on how Ed Davis play's, is there a way to move Bargs instead with weems. Keep DD and ED.

[timdunkit]

If your moving Bargs/Weems instead of DD/Ed, you could expect a very huge downgrade in return. Bargs value should definitely have alot of varience across the league. He'd be more valueable to a team who has a defensive anchor and need scoring ath the 4/5 spot. Keep in mind that he also is on his 2nd contract (which isn't a steal and if it was, you could be sure BC ain't moving him).

Weems is a mediocre prospect whose likely going to be a bench player for his entire career ... and he's in his contract year too .

HomieOmey makes a good point, we'd need to see where Ed's value is going to be after he gets back from his injury.

[quickymgee]

OJ would be good in that we really need a sg, but i'm not sure about his defense, and moving DD AND Ed would be giving up two prospects with good potential as well so it's not like we're suddenly getting two MORE young prospects, it's like we're upgrading (potentially). It's still up in the air whether DD will take the next level (in which case I would say he could equal OJ when you take into account his defensive potential and rebounding making up for any loss in the offensive department) and i think Davis will be better than Thabeet.

I would much rather go after a good PG or young PG with good potential for Jack and Reggie or something.