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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#241 » by panthermark » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:29 pm

Rudy's trade value went thrugh the floor....

Portland wants the Cat's pick?

Really?
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#242 » by DuckIII » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:31 pm

transplant wrote:Asik continues to impress. His continued development is going to be a great thing for Noah, allowing Jo to play some easier minutes at PF spelling Boozer. Nice find.


I just popped in last night to make some quick funnies but didn't actually discuss the game in any real way.

This was the over-riding thing that stood out to me (not Deng's game since I wasn't shocked to see him play basketball well). Asik is really coming along well, and quickly. He had some very nice look passes and he moves his feet a lot quicker on driving players than I thought he would be able to. He has better instincts than I gave him credit for.

And he's big. And against teams like the Blazers, we really need to have that dimension. Three games in, here are my big take-aways:

(a) Rose is going to have a monster year, and propel himself into the discussion as a no-brainer top 10 player.

(b) Brewer is **** up physically. Thibs used him properly last night, which is to say he didn't really use him at all. Keep it that way until he gets his explosiveness back. Without it, he's useless. I'm hoping he'll get back to form by January.

(c) Asik is way more ready to contribute way earlier than I ever would have believed based on what I saw from him previously. He gets it.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#243 » by philly035 » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:36 pm

My post game analysis:

-We need to trade DENG now! He is a bum and like all other members of this board I agree he is the nonathletic SF that we should just give away for peanuts. Top 5 SF? Yeah right.

-Rudy shows us once again why we need to trade for him. We should of given up that Charlotte pick to nab him. He is the 3 point threat we are missing. If the Bulls do not get him we are all dead in the water.

-Noah does not deserve the money he's making. We could have gotten another high energy rebounding big for half his price.

Who's with me?
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#244 » by DanTown8587 » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:45 pm

Here is a nice stat for you:

Luol Deng became just the 4th Bull since 1986 to score 40 or more points on 20 or less shots, joining Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan (twice) and Ben Gordon on that list.

That has happened 34 times since 2000-01 with such "members" including Larry Hughes, Ramon Sessions, Nate Robinson, Mehmet Okur, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer and Kevin Durant. A truly strange list.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#245 » by DuckIII » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:47 pm

philly035 wrote:My post game analysis:

-We need to trade DENG now! He is a bum and like all other members of this board I agree he is the nonathletic SF that we should just give away for peanuts. Top 5 SF? Yeah right.

-Rudy shows us once again why we need to trade for him. We should of given up that Charlotte pick to nab him. He is the 3 point threat we are missing. If the Bulls do not get him we are all dead in the water.

-Noah does not deserve the money he's making. We could have gotten another high energy rebounding big for half his price.

Who's with me?


Despite your sarcasm, the answer to your question is "a lot of people" when it comes to your first two observations.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#246 » by Red Larrivee » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:48 pm

MissileMike wrote:
mr.ankle wrote:Since Boozer will be getting the cast of his hand soon . How much longer will he be out

Still has a month, sadly.


I think Boozer will be back sometime this month.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#247 » by panthermark » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:53 pm

philly035 wrote:My post game analysis:

-We need to trade DENG now! He is a bum and like all other members of this board I agree he is the nonathletic SF that we should just give away for peanuts. Top 5 SF? Yeah right.

-Rudy shows us once again why we need to trade for him. We should of given up that Charlotte pick to nab him. He is the 3 point threat we are missing. If the Bulls do not get him we are all dead in the water.

-Noah does not deserve the money he's making. We could have gotten another high energy rebounding big for half his price.

Who's with me?

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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#248 » by philly035 » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:05 pm

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philly035 wrote:My post game analysis:

-We need to trade DENG now! He is a bum and like all other members of this board I agree he is the nonathletic SF that we should just give away for peanuts. Top 5 SF? Yeah right.

-Rudy shows us once again why we need to trade for him. We should of given up that Charlotte pick to nab him. He is the 3 point threat we are missing. If the Bulls do not get him we are all dead in the water.

-Noah does not deserve the money he's making. We could have gotten another high energy rebounding big for half his price.

Who's with me?

Green font bro...


who's to say i'm not serious? :-P
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#249 » by Tetlak » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:07 pm

Is it too early to promote Pip's girlfriend as our good luck charm? 2-0 with her at the UC.

Also, I havent been able to catch the stampede (intro video) for these 2 home games. Are there any differences from last years?
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#250 » by kyrv » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:10 pm

panthermark wrote:Rudy's trade value went thrugh the floor....

Portland wants the Cat's pick?

Really?


How did his trade value go through the floor? Did he make more comments after the game?
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#251 » by blumeany » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:25 pm

Well, I'm glad I didn't log in at halftime like I was going to and say 'If Deng ends up with 30 points, I'll never post again'. :lol:

Hey, not taking anything away from his performance. He had a great game and filled that scoring void that we have. (and here's the) BUT, the issue with Luol has never been potential, it has been consistency. What can he bring in the long run? That is what we will have to wait and see. My gut? Trade him now while you can. But hey, he might prove us all wrong as well.

Most alarming thing in the game: I'm noticing more and more that Derrick is really getting sloppy towards the end of games. Turnovers, miscues, bad shooting. Not a good thing from your franchise. Hopefully Thibs will work on calming him down a bit at the ends of games, instead of screaming "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!" :)
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#252 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:31 pm

Tetlak wrote:Is it too early to promote Pip's girlfriend as our good luck charm? 2-0 with her at the UC.

Also, I havent been able to catch the stampede (intro video) for these 2 home games. Are there any differences from last years?



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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#253 » by panthermark » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:32 pm

kyrv wrote:
panthermark wrote:Rudy's trade value went thrugh the floor....

Portland wants the Cat's pick?

Really?


How did his trade value go through the floor? Did he make more comments after the game?


No comments....

But for one of the teams that wanted him the most...especially for his 3pt shooting... Going 0-6 from deep with 5 fouls isn't a good way to make the Bulls think about moving that Cat's pick.

He is now shooting 30.8% from the field and 31.3% from deep in 19 minutes per game.

I would still take Rudy....but at some point...Portland has to come to grips with their asking price.....
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#254 » by Tetlak » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:33 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Tetlak wrote:Is it too early to promote Pip's girlfriend as our good luck charm? 2-0 with her at the UC.

Also, I havent been able to catch the stampede (intro video) for these 2 home games. Are there any differences from last years?



Didn't they say that was Scottie's wife? You got to put a ring on that. LOCK IT UP!


Youre right, they are married.

So who do you got out of Pips wife and Jordans girl?

I might have to say Mrs. Pippen
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#255 » by panthermark » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:34 pm

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Tetlak wrote:Is it too early to promote Pip's girlfriend as our good luck charm? 2-0 with her at the UC.

Also, I havent been able to catch the stampede (intro video) for these 2 home games. Are there any differences from last years?



Didn't they say that was Scottie's wife? You got to put a ring on that. LOCK IT UP!


That IS his wife...

He's already locked that up....can't blame him....but....

Yo Pip....PRE-NUP!
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#256 » by The ROY » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:35 pm

That was Scottie's wife..and she's fine as all hell too...lucky dude

I used to go to H.S. with her niece and that was atleast 10 yrs ago....he's been married for a while
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#257 » by kyrv » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:37 pm

panthermark wrote:
kyrv wrote:
panthermark wrote:Rudy's trade value went thrugh the floor....

Portland wants the Cat's pick?

Really?


How did his trade value go through the floor? Did he make more comments after the game?


No comments....

But for one of the teams that wanted him the most...especially for his 3pt shooting... Going 0-6 from deep with 5 fouls isn't a good way to make the Bulls think about moving that Cat's pick.

He is now shooting 30.8% from the field and 31.3% from deep in 19 minutes per game.

I would still take Rudy....but at some point...Portland has to come to grips with their asking price.....


So his value didn't go through the floor then?

Not sure what you are saying here. You wouldn't trade the Charlotte pick for him - nor would I, nothing to do with last night's game.

Are you suggesting the Bulls would base their scouting not on two years plus but rather one game which was a whistle fest?

As an aside, I find it annoying when opposing players can only go to the right and the defender lets them go to the right.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#258 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:41 pm

DuckIII wrote:(a) Rose is going to have a monster year, and propel himself into the discussion as a no-brainer top 10 player.

He's playing much smarter than last year, recognizing what defenses are being put out there and keeping his finger on the pulse of the team. He could've gone out and scored 30+ again if he wanted to but guys (Deng) were draining shots left and right, so he deferred, set them up, and the rest is history.

His defense looks lot better too. He just finds himself in better position most of the time, though he's still prone to lapses. Miller blew by him once last night which had Cliff Levingston all like :facepalm:


DuckIII wrote:(b) Brewer is **** up physically. Thibs used him properly last night, which is to say he didn't really use him at all. Keep it that way until he gets his explosiveness back. Without it, he's useless. I'm hoping he'll get back to form by January.

He had his best game yet in limited minutes, which was nice. He helped to bust up the zone that Portland went to, but yea, limited minutes until he's right. Bogans, Korver and Johnson can pick up the slack until then, hopefully.


DuckIII wrote:(c) Asik is way more ready to contribute way earlier than I ever would have believed based on what I saw from him previously. He gets it.

He's still wildly unrefined but he's out there making an impact and playing well in spite of that. That bodes well for his future once he further acclimates himself to the NBA game, gets stronger and more experienced. He's only 24 years old. Him and Noah just lock down the paint when they're in there together.

James Johnson looks like an NBA player this year. Too many fouls and he didn't have a great game last night but he looks like he belongs out there. Maybe never a starter but a guy you can count on for some decent minutes off the bench. That's more than Cliff Levingston thought we'd get from him.
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#259 » by DanTown8587 » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:41 pm

kyrv wrote:
As an aside, I find it annoying when opposing players can only go to the right and the defender lets them go to the right.


I feel you. I have a hard time understanding how Manu can always go left. Do people forget the scouting report?
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Re: Blazers post game analysis 

Post#260 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:53 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:
kyrv wrote:
As an aside, I find it annoying when opposing players can only go to the right and the defender lets them go to the right.


I feel you. I have a hard time understanding how Manu can always go left. Do people forget the scouting report?



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