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Official Trade Thread XIV: 6/14/10 - 12/22/10

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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#561 » by closg00 » Wed Nov 3, 2010 12:35 pm

Mosca wrote:Not sure if it's already been posted, but looks like Minnesota won't offer Corey Brewer an extension...makes sense now that they've invested on a few other younger 2/3's (Ellington, Wesley Johnson, Hayward, Beasley, Webster). Brewer's still only 24 though. He'll be will be a RFA this summer.

What's everyone's thoughts on signing him to an offer sheet (at the right price) assuming Howard and Thornton aren't back next season?


I suspect that if Thorton continues to be a guy who battles for rebounds etc and plays decently, that he will get a contract offer from us, Martin as-well.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#562 » by verbal8 » Wed Nov 3, 2010 12:43 pm

Mosca wrote:Not sure if it's already been posted, but looks like Minnesota won't offer Corey Brewer an extension...makes sense now that they've invested on a few other younger 2/3's (Ellington, Wesley Johnson, Hayward, Beasley, Webster). Brewer's still only 24 though. He'll be will be a RFA this summer.

What's everyone's thoughts on signing him to an offer sheet (at the right price) assuming Howard and Thornton aren't back next season?

I think trading another expiring for him would be the best option. He looks like on paper that he could fit well on the Wizards. It would be nice to see if that works out on the court before committing a contract to him. Thornton or Young could be traded with Hamadi for Brewer. Yi could be traded straight up, but would leave the wizards with very little depth.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#563 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 3, 2010 1:39 pm

Brewer's a hard player to get a handle on. I've never been a fan - thought he was way overrated coming out of Florida - his length was exaggerated, and his defense was way overrated - anyone could look good with Noah and Horford behind them. Maybe the biggest problem was that he was a 185 lb forward without guard skills. He does seem to have gotten stronger and developed an ok 3 point shot, but ya gotta wonder why a team as bad as Minny got players to replace him. My feeling is - if he is an upgrade over what we have, it's only by a tiny margin - pass.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#564 » by DaRealHibachi » Wed Nov 3, 2010 2:55 pm

Do we really need another wing when we have Arenas, Howard, Thornton, Young, Martin & Booker...???
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#565 » by queridiculo » Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:10 pm

Thornton, Young and Howard are all free agents.
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Post#566 » by nate33 » Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:19 pm

I'd put Brewer on the list (along with Tayshaun Prince and Wilson Chandler) of guys to look at in free agency this offseason. I wouldn't trade anybody other than Young for him.

Of course, it might be best not to sign anybody for longer than one year to preserve Summer 2012 cap space.
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Post#567 » by montestewart » Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:52 pm

nate33 wrote:I'd put Brewer on the list (along with Tayshaun Prince and Wilson Chandler) of guys to look at in free agency this offseason. I wouldn't trade anybody other than Young for him.

Of course, it might be best not to sign anybody for longer than one year to preserve Summer 2012 cap space.

With the possibility of development/improvement among McGee, Seraphim, and Booker, improvement or at least maintenance of current level w/ Blatche, and option of qualifying offers to Thornton and/or Martin, not to mention 2011 picks, FAs, and D-League pickups, there are many ways to tide over at SF until 2012.
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Post#568 » by hands11 » Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:26 am

I heard we could be getting Randy Moss.
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Post#569 » by montestewart » Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:53 am

hands11 wrote:I heard we could be getting Randy Moss.

Another high risk, high reward EG experiment?
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Post#570 » by no D in Hibachi » Thu Nov 4, 2010 5:45 pm

hands11 wrote:I heard we could be getting Randy Moss.

Another lotto pick not living up to expectations?
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#571 » by queridiculo » Thu Nov 4, 2010 8:55 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:
hands11 wrote:I heard we could be getting Randy Moss.

Another lotto pick not living up to expectations?


Moss is a hall of famer, as much as it pains me to say.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#572 » by verbal8 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 10:19 am

hermitkid wrote:
no D in Hibachi wrote:
hands11 wrote:I heard we could be getting Randy Moss.

Another lotto pick not living up to expectations?


Moss is a hall of famer, as much as it pains me to say.


I wonder if some of the drama keeps him from getting in on the first ballot?
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#573 » by queridiculo » Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:16 pm

verbal8 wrote:I wonder if some of the drama keeps him from getting in on the first ballot?


It certainly had an effect on Irvin, but it will all come down to how strong the class of potential inductees is that year.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#574 » by LyricalRico » Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:31 pm

SVG and Pietrus are beefing over playing time. Thornton+Young for Pietrus once Howard comes back? Pietrus doesn't go on the scoring binges that Young (and sometimes Thornton) can go on, but I think he's more likely to give you his averages on a nightly basis. We do add a year of salary but we were targeting 2012 anyway.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#575 » by Severn Hoos » Fri Nov 5, 2010 6:47 pm

LyricalRico wrote:SVG and Pietrus are beefing over playing time. Thornton+Young for Pietrus once Howard comes back? Pietrus doesn't go on the scoring binges that Young (and sometimes Thornton) can go on, but I think he's more likely to give you his averages on a nightly basis. We do add a year of salary but we were targeting 2012 anyway.

Lyrical, I was just thinking the same thing. Pietrus is a good defender and can play both SG & SF (or at least he could in the past - not sure if his poor start this year is a sign of decline?)

I'm actually warming to Al on the Wiz (even potentially long-ish term), but would love to ship out Young in a deal for MP. French connection wouldn't hurt with Seraphin and Hamady either. We really do need someone with size to guard opposing swingmen, Pietrus could be an ideal fit in that regard.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#576 » by LyricalRico » Fri Nov 5, 2010 7:28 pm

^ Interesting. I hadn't thought about the "French Connection" but that could really help Seraphin's development. But if you want to keep Thornton, how about this:

Wizards trade: Yi and Young
Wizards receive: Pietrus and Anderson
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#577 » by Ruzious » Fri Nov 5, 2010 8:54 pm

I guess if you're thinking - we're not going to use our cap space till the 2012 offseason (which is probably the plan), making a Pietrus trade is probably a solid idea. We can definitely use his defensive strength on the wing.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#578 » by montestewart » Fri Nov 5, 2010 9:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:I guess if you're thinking - we're not going to use our cap space till the 2012 offseason (which is probably the plan), making a Pietrus trade is probably a solid idea. We can definitely use his defensive strength on the wing.

And if Orlando would do this trade, Anderson's seems an upgrade, because he actually shoots from outside the line, and he'd likely never be used at C, and so far, Yi at C gets a D. Make it happen EG.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#579 » by LyricalRico » Fri Nov 5, 2010 10:00 pm

montestewart wrote:
Ruzious wrote:I guess if you're thinking - we're not going to use our cap space till the 2012 offseason (which is probably the plan), making a Pietrus trade is probably a solid idea. We can definitely use his defensive strength on the wing.

And if Orlando would do this trade, Anderson's seems an upgrade, because he actually shoots from outside the line, and he'd likely never be used at C, and so far, Yi at C gets a D. Make it happen EG.


:nod:

From Orlando's perspective, they save $15M next season (half salary, half luxtax). Why not go for something like that if they aren't going to play the guy? The only reason to balk is if this is just a ploy by SVG and he thinks Pietrus will end up coming around, or they are pretty sure a lockout will wipe out next year's payroll anyway.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIV 

Post#580 » by ComboGuardCity » Sat Nov 6, 2010 8:29 pm

If Carter for Arenas doesn't work out, would you guys even consider Arenas for Rip?

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