PG: The streak lives

[J-Roc]

Brandon Roy. What the **** you gonna do?

[ATLTimekeeper]

What's with all these other teams sucking, too? I thought it was just supposed to be us and Minnesota.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

What's with all these other teams sucking, too? I thought it was just supposed to be us and Minnesota.

Yeah, you don't need to look any further than the East. Some of the bad teams out West are better than their record shows. The Rockets, for example, are what, 0-5? They are better than that. Heck, the Clippers are better than what their record indicates. Same thing applies to the Grizzlies, imo. I feel like I'm missing some team out West, but yeah, only the Wolves truly suck in that conference.

In the East...wow, do we have some bad teams. I'm not even going to mention them all, but only the Heat, Knicks, Hawks, Celtics, and Magic have more than 2 wins.

[michaelc204]

Someone needs to teach Derozan another move. His spin move is so predictable, especially since he can only spin one way

[Enfur]

Man it would sure be nice if we had a player we could just dump the ball to and have him score instead of relying on a bunch of crappy players to try and create and then just turn it over.

[Kabookalu]

Holy crap just checked the boxscore, everyone is playing like shyt, DeRozan, Kleiza, and Bargnani in particular.

At the half, Kleiza, Jack, DeRozan and Barbosa were a combined 3-18, while Bargs was 5-10 and even those 10 points were largely self generated rather than assisted plays.

In the second half, nothing changed and after moving up to 6-12, Bargs was ignored entirely. He came back in the 4th and tried to continue the run, but missed everything because he was completely out of the flow - and likely as tired as everyone else. He was -24, but played a game high in minutes that was pretty much entirely with Jack and DeRozan who are the next worst at -23 and -17 in 27 minutes each.

I'm not excusing Bargs - he got softer as the game went on - but could have done a whole lot more before the game got completely out of reach if they ran some kind of offense instead of the guard heavy free for all. For the second night in a row - aside from Calderon - it was like a summer league game out there on offense. Jack's stats are very misleading as he was like 1-5 in tghe first half and even in the second, largely ignored the open players and forced it way too often, making a pass that led to a contested shot instead of the smart, open one.

Calderon is the only one who had a good game, I think. Oh, and Julian Wright (when he wasn't botching a fast break) is starting to show a little something.

Thanks for the recap, sounds like the same thing that's been happening for years so I believe every detail.

[Gang of Four]

It is really amazing to see the Raptor's play actual defense this year, and really good defense at times (while Jose frickin' Calderon is on the floor no less), compared to all of last year where defense seemed totally non-existent.

[CB4Champ]

Man People, What a Game.

Demar just did not have it, He needs to show more if he is going to be a Franchise changing player.

Bargs was frozen out but really He relies on jumpers way too much.

Thanks to Jack for saving our 3 streak. If we reach a 1000 games then that will be a feat worth mentioning. Hope we can do it because 950 does not sound as "Nice" as an even 1000. Thanks again Jack.

[dawn_wan]

missed the game @_@
glad i did too =)

[Too Late Crew]

Man it would sure be nice if we had a player we could just dump the ball to and have him score instead of relying on a bunch of crappy players to try and create and then just turn it over.

What are you talking about having a central offensive player is BAD. Having an offense where many pkayers touch the ball is always BETER not matter how inept they me be or how bad the results..more ball sharing is just "better"

[FTW]

Outrebounded them = win?

[FirstInkTDot]

I thought the Raps won after reading the thread title..

[name_discrep]

I gave up watching with 2 min left in 3rd quarter - the offense was hard to watch. It seems like when Jack's on the floor the offense becomes too much iso and one on one plays - he drives into the paint and then either gets his floater shot or trys a bail out pass that seems to either end up as a turnover or someone else going one on one. They need to design some plays that have some movement to the basket so he can dump it off to someone cutting to the net. As much as Jose drives me nuts on D, when he's rolling on offense, the team seems to be in a better flow.

Didn't watch the 4th so didn't see Bargnani miss another 5 shots, but I'd agree with some other posters that we wasn't getting touches in the third - when he gets down into the post they need to give him the ball right away and deep - and/or he needs to get down in the post and stay there. There were numerous times last night that he had someone posted up, demanded the ball, and didn't get it, then floats out to the 3 pt line to get it - and tries a 20 ft jump shot. Its no excuse, but I think if he'd get the ball on post-ups, he would post up more. One time in particular he had his man completely sealed and the entire Portland team was playing up towards the 3pt line - he was wide open - but Jack didn't see him, passed to Amir instead, and then Amir tried to force it into Bargnani but it was too late and Portland had already rotated - so turnover.

Hate to blame it on Jack - b/c he had a decent game himself last night - but whenever Derozan, Bargnani or Kleiza score lately, its generally after a one on one play - and when they can't make it happen on their own then it doesn't happen at all (ie Derozan's 1-10 last night after a great game against Kobe). There has to be some more ball movement - but GOOD ball movement with cuts and heads up passing - not passing to one person to try one on one, then bail out passes to the next person going one on one.

[basketball royalty]

I only caught the 4th quarter but from what I saw I was really disappointed in Bargs play. What I see in the bench fighting and clawing to get us back in the game only to have Bargs in there going through the paces. I am not saying Anderson should have stayed in but Bargs has to bring way more fire especially when the team is on a run.

In fact one time where I am sure most thought Barbosa forced a 3 was really him waiting for Bargs to post up his man for real instead of just standing in the post area. Bargs wasn't putting himself in position for a pass and Bosa was dribbling waiting for him to, with 2 secs left he just had to launch a shot because it just didn't happen. Overall his play in the fourth was disgusting to me, a person who thinks he should be the cornerstone of the team. This is not the last straw but Bargs is on the hot seat for me because he has to show more fire and show it night in and night out if he is to deserve the franchise mantle.

[pass first]

That's Barbosa's go to move. Dribble in one place until he jacks up one.

The 4th quarter was too little too late. Bargnani played well in the first half. Offensively he was the only one who got it going, but they didn't feed the hot hand. More Barbosa iso's, and Jack trying layups against Camby.

[basketball royalty]

That's Barbosa's go to move. Dribble in one place until he jacks up one.

The 4th quarter was too little too late. Bargnani played well in the first half. Offensively he was the only one who got it going, but they didn't feed the hot hand. More Barbosa iso's, and Jack trying layups against Camby.

Too little too late? I guess you and Bargs share the same mentality. A competitor notices when the bench cut it to 8 in the fourth and Bargs shows no intensity to try and carry his team over the hump.

[Rare]

cliffs on how it went down that the streak continues? Was skimming through the game so I wasn't aware we hadn't made a 3 and then turned it off before the end. Was it a last second thing or what

[basketball royalty]

cliffs on how it went down that the streak continues? Was skimming through the game so I wasn't aware we hadn't made a 3 and then turned it off before the end. Was it a last second thing or what

JJack hit one with about 4 mins left I believe.

[J-Roc]

cliffs on how it went down that the streak continues? Was skimming through the game so I wasn't aware we hadn't made a 3 and then turned it off before the end. Was it a last second thing or what

JJack hit one with about 4 mins left I believe.

It was a pull up 3, too. All the nice 3pt setups with quick passes to open shooters.....missed every time. I don't like what I see from Barbosa as a corner 3 guy.

[SDM]

They've been really unlucky this weekend. Lots of good looks going clank at the other end. In LA especially in the 4th it was almost like a lid was over the rim. This might have more to do with their crappy offensive execution and unbalanced lineup, though.