tkf keys to the loss

[TKF]

Well I will say that I am terribly dissapointed. And no, don't come inhere looking for credit.. the sixers stink.. we lost to a bad team, watching Battie come off a screen to hit a jumper that rolls in, tells me all I need to know about today. watching louis williams shoot 3-12, but gets 14 FT's tell me all I need to know... watching scooby jru Holliday go 4-5 from downtown, tells me all I need to know.. To watch evan turner who looks like a basket case out there a lot of times, pull down 10 boards, tell me all I need to know.. the sixers with the help of a lot of whistles, hacking, questionable calls and a cold shooting knicks team got away with one... Their offense consisted of, dribble, dribble, jump in the air pass, have it bounce off 4 guys and find a shot or a gift whistle fro, the refs is just frustrating.. absolutely frustrating..

Keys:

Amare: 21/15/1 block. Had no problem with his game today. seemed patient and finished big around the basket. seems to be passing the ball out more as evidenced by the nice kickout to gallo for a three whenhe could have easily taken the shot. In a game like today, we needed him to be even more special offensively tho.. didn't happen

GAllo: decent game didn't shoot well, but played well. finished with 15/6/1, defended well except on a couple of plays where nocioni had no business driving on him for one of those trash shots he throws up.. but I like the way gallo took the ball to the hoop today and was aggresive with the dribble.

chandler: Decent game as well, not a typical chandler game, finished with 11/4 boards. guy just can't seem to catch breaks with the refs.. he has to get killed in order to get a shooting foul. was off from three today and his shot was just off.

Douglas: not his best game today17/2/3. but shot 5-13. seemed to force the issue a bit, wish he would have been more of a playmaker , knowing how teams are guarding him now... missed some makeable shots... was still a pest on defense tho..

Mozgov: 9 points and no boards. He needs to be more of a factor on the boards when he is in the game. starts off the game nicely, but doesn't seem to carry that over to the second half. we need him to be a bit more productive defensively and on the boards.

Turiaf: somewhat of an off day for him, picked up some cheap and questionable fouls, had some nice finishes around the basket. 5/3boards/5 assists and 3 blocks. not a bad day overall.

Felton: 7/10/8.. not a bad stat line, except he shot 2/11, just not good enough.. played hard, just not well. Has to get that pick and roll going..

Fields: had two bad shooting fouls called.. One legit, the other BS.. williams jumped sideways to find fields, should not have been a call. finished with 8/5/2 dimes.. not a bad game at all. solid effort despite the bad fouls.

AR and walker really didn't provide much and I wonder if we just need to cut walker out of the rotation and bring AR along 10 mpg at a time.

We outrebounded the sixers 49-45, had more blocks (6-3), but the lack of three point shooting 3-19 killed us.. heck, even if we turned that into 6-16, we might have won this thing..

tough, tough, loss...

3-3

[2010]

This loss comes down to two issues. One obvious and the other not so obvious.

1). Obvious: Bad 3pt shooting game.
2). Non-Obvious: Sitting Landry Fields for way too long.

[YouthMovement]

Don't know where Fields was in the second half. He was a large part of every run we made. As much as I love Douglas, he killed us at the end of the fourth. Bad shot selection and that awful defense on the Jrue Holiday three. These games kill me.

[Bigmo5246]

Good keys.

We can't get down about this loss. We just gotta hope this loss sparked a fire under our team, and we take care of business in Milwaukee.

[TheBluest]

I think the Sixers deserve some credit because if you don't look at their record and previous games, they've been competitive but like Knicks teams of the past several yrs we have the Knack to make teams look much better, therefore the onus is on us to change things and we didn't today. This was a typical loss as we've seen over the yrs.

I'm surprised you didn't cap with SOTN because isn't this what usually caps your keys in a loss from a player you would never anticipate having such a game?

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Chicago 16-24 3pt...Sixers 3-19 3pt shooting<-----LIVE AND DIE BY 3

Positives were Amar'e's rebounding, Turiaf's steady bench play and that's about it.

[nyknicks2k2]

Pump fakes were not our friend this game. I believe we picked up 3-4 cheap fouls that way.

[KnicksChamps]

We lost because of the close plays that ALL went the sixers' way & IMO, our guards getting into foul trouble.
The shooting numbers in the 4th were terrible too.

[Rooster8]

Good keys TKF. Just one of those games where we didnt get the breaks we needed, and couldnt make a damn shot in the 4th. Stoudemire played real well, especially on the boards. But the one turnover he had came at the worst time that lead to Evan Turner getting a layup, that I think put them up by 6. That was crucial.

[CrazyKnicks]

I think the Sixers deserve some credit because if you don't look at their record and previous games, they've been competitive but like Knicks teams of the past several yrs we have the Knack to make teams look much better, therefore the onus is on us to change things and we didn't today. This was typical loss as we've seen over the yrs.

I'm surprised you didn't cap with SOTN because isn't this what usually caps your keys in a loss from a player you would never anticipate having such agame.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Chicago 16-24 3pt...Sixers 3-19 3pt shooting<-----LIVE AND DIE BY 3

Positives were Amr'e's rebounding, Turiaf's steady bench play and that's about it.

Their whole team get SOTN
Games where the 3's aren't falling, which Amare would get assertive at the end instead of watching Felton and TD put up bricks.
There was one play when he was calling for the ball and nobody passed it to him, but still we need that pick and roll badly.
Edit: What do you guys think about Turiaf being that middle guy on offense when we face a zone, wouldn't Amare be better as the top of the key guy instead of having him on the wing?

[dancing dervish]

I think the Sixers deserve some credit because if you don't look at their record and previous games, they've been competitive but like Knicks teams of the past several yrs we have the Knack to make teams look much better, therefore the onus is on us to change things and we didn't today. This was typical loss as we've seen over the yrs.

I'm surprised you didn't cap with SOTN because isn't this what usually caps your keys in a loss from a player you would never anticipate having such agame.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Chicago 16-24 3pt...Sixers 3-19 3pt shooting<-----LIVE AND DIE BY 3

Positives were Amr'e's rebounding, Turiaf's steady bench play and that's about it.

It's the only way D'Antoni knows to win game.

[janquinn]

Our guards had a poor game on both side of the ball. Sixers guards out played them, we need to get Amerie the ball more. I thought Chandler had his first poor game of the season.

[adjacent2bench]

We're a better team than Philly. You know how those cronies at ESPN always ask "did team A win or did team B lose" (I hate that question btw)...


well, the Knicks definitely lost this one with avoidable fouls in the 3rd quarter. We kept them hanging in the game when we should have been blowing them out. Tough loss.

[duetta]

As usual, our three point shooting tends to determine the outcome of our games. In this game, however, Louis Williams head fake also was key - as witnessed by his 14 FTs. How many times can you fall for the same fake?

[dancing dervish]

Sixers are pure trash.

[waya]

Wilson Chandler needs to stop shooting 3's.

[blueNorange]

watching scooby jru Holliday go 4-5 from downtown, tells me all I need to know

he's a career 39% shooter from three, i told you he'll be the best point guard in the draft and i'm sticking with it.

can rebound, can shoot, can pass, and plays defense.

[TrueWarrior]

Good keys tkf

Not much to say except I kind of expected this. We came out flat and besides a few bursts they simply outplayed us. We didnt hit shots and they did. Our defense was lazy and while they forced us to take too many jumpshots.

Amare had a good game. Missed some key FTs at the end but the game was pretty much over at that point. Stepped up on the boards and seems to be playing in the flow a little better, but like you said we needed him to take over in the end.

Gallo seems to be moving much better lately or is it just me? I saw him turn on the jets a few times and was kind of surprised. Anyway he had a solid game but missed some shots down the stretch. I also like how he was more aggressive driving. He needs to practice shooting off the dribble because those little mid range pull ups are going to be there for him. His confidence seems to be back though. I still would like to see him even more involved in the offense than he is however.

Felton started off the game passing very nicely, but he shot poor. Maybe it was his back that was bothering him. Got into foul trouble too and just never got into the flow.

Douglas and Chandler both had off games. They shot alot and just didnt have it. Kind of forced things a little. Chandler needs to stop shooting threes point blank. Douglas needs to be more of a playmaker. They'll bounce back.

Mozgov and Fields played well but didnt play enough. Moz didnt board well but he was scoring out there. I know we are being patient with him but I wonder when Mike is going to give him more run. While Fields got duped on some pump fakes but played a good game overall. I thought we could have used him in the end. Mike needs to play these two more or else whats the point of them starting?

Randolph started to show some flashes in the 2nd half. He just needs to play. Im just wondering where his minutes are going to come from. Cutting out Walker would hurt our 3 pt shooting off the bench, but somebody needs to get cut out here because Randolph shouldnt be playing 10 mpg much longer.

Turiaf was Turiaf. We cant be playing him 30 mpg. Hes a great bench player but hes not as effective with long minutes.

On to Milwaukee.

[lataflava00]

missed fts down the stretch, bad shots, and missed defensive assignments cost us this game. theres NO way you should let a terrible team like the sixers come back from a 9 pt deficit.

[SoleMelo]

Well, from what I'm getting from the stat line, we beat ourselves. Raymond Felton probably lost us this game. I saw him make a TERRIBLE decision in the P&R; he tried to get the ball to the roll man (don't remember who it was), and had it picked off. But, even if the pass went through, the roll man was surrounded by three red jerseys and would have needed a miracle to convert. Bad loss, but I'm not too worried. 75 games left.

[aggo]

TD is not a PG. And that is literally what cost us the game imo. D'antoni needs to stop leaving him out there without Felton