What's really to blame

tisbee · Post #1 » by **tisbee** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:24 am

It's The Curse Of JT.
In keeping JT from his destiny as the starting SG,the Rockets have felt the wrath of JT's psychic powers. They have:
Wrecked McGrady's knee
Jedi'd Les into letting Artest walk
Made Von Wafer fail his physical
Got Ariza traded
Bent Lowry's back
Stolen Bud's 3pt shot
Given Martin another "freak" injury
Stolen Lee's late-game mo-jo.

For all that's holy,Rick,stop the carnage and start JT. :wink:

M4P · Post #2 » by **M4P** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:26 am

Meh why the hell not. Just hope he's not rusty or out of shape.

Aaron Brooks · Post #3 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:39 am

Who is JT?

HTown_TMac · Post #4 » by **HTown_TMac** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:50 am

We need to try something.

And I was also thinking about this earlier.

dunleavyjr · Post #5 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 6:14 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:Who is JT?

Justin Timberlake

rocketsballin · Post #6 » by **rocketsballin** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 6:30 am

he was semi-producive at the end of last season. he did say in the summer he was drafted that he's a scorer and that's what he's gonna do for this team. if we're gonna lose brooks/martin or both he should get some minutes.

i-denom · Post #7 » by **i-denom** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 6:34 pm

T-Mac
T- Mac is to blame for all the world's problems. Hunger, rape, terrorism; you name it, he caused it.

franchise73 · Post #8 » by **franchise73** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 8:39 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oleKfixy-7A

bubba · Post #9 » by **bubba** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 8:47 pm

Aaron Brooks wrote:Who is JT?

jermaine taylor

Frankie23 · Post #10 » by **Frankie23** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 10:35 pm

I think Rockets are making the same mistake as they did in T-Mac time..

Rox should use Scola and Yao as the offensive 1st option. They are good scorers in the paint and also good passers. That is what helps the rest of the team to get easier shots.. Martin is a great shooter, but as barkley said the other day: You can't live on jumpers, you die by jumpers.
Martin and Brooks shouldn't have the ball in their hand very much..

And of course, defense..

kam_soluusar · Post #11 » by **kam_soluusar** » Sun Nov 7, 2010 11:38 pm

It's Morey's fault for trading Landry.

Joseph17 · Post #12 » by **Joseph17** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:32 pm

No it's Morey's fault for trading Ariza and getting Lee. Ariza was an important guy on the team and I was against that trade from the start. I was also against the Brad Miller signing and overpaying Lowry. Those turned out to be bad moves also. Landry would have been good on this team, but the Rockets could have easily gotten a raw athletic big during free agency or during the draft. Even a Ryan Hollins type player would have been fine. This team has literally no size and athleticism in their frontcourt. Hill is the most athletic player we have, but even he's really skinny and undersized at 6'10. They got flat out abused by McGee and Blatch. Even Jianlian had a good game. That's going to keep happening unless they get some kind of size.

Joseph17 · Post #13 » by **Joseph17** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:34 pm

They should look to trade Lowry for an athletic big as soon as possible.

So Gutta · Post #14 » by **So Gutta** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:55 am

Morey messed up by trading a starting SF (Ariza) for a backup SG (Lee).

Why they couldn't give Ariza a fresh new year, in a different role, with Yao back, is ridiculous. I think Morey got a bit too cocky, and didn't quite realize what he had stolen from LA. Trust me, everyone in LA all year was wondering whether or not the Ariza - Artest swap was good for the Lakers until they won the chip and Artest had a good game 7.

Ariza is now flourishing in NOLA with Chris Paul. Is Lee balling it up in Houston? Does Lee solve any defensive problems Houston may have? That trade made no sense at the time, and now you're forced to deal with it the way the Lakers had to deal with trading away Caron Butler too soon.

Hopefully Morey can recover from this mistake.

M4P · Post #15 » by **M4P** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:55 pm

So Gutta wrote:Morey messed up by trading a starting SF (Ariza) for a backup SG (Lee).

Why they couldn't give Ariza a fresh new year, in a different role, with Yao back, is ridiculous. I think Morey got a bit too cocky, and didn't quite realize what he had stolen from LA. Trust me, everyone in LA all year was wondering whether or not the Ariza - Artest swap was good for the Lakers until they won the chip and Artest had a good game 7.

Ariza is now flourishing in NOLA with Chris Paul. Is Lee balling it up in Houston? Does Lee solve any defensive problems Houston may have? That trade made no sense at the time, and now you're forced to deal with it the way the Lakers had to deal with trading away Caron Butler too soon.

Hopefully Morey can recover from this mistake.

bull. Ariza isn't exactly flourishing in NO. He's a role player that had chemistry issues with the team. Is he a better player than Lee? Probably, but to act like he'd make a significant impact on our team as a whole is doubtful whether you want to believe it or not.

aznkillabeezZz · Post #16 » by **aznkillabeezZz** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:27 am

M4P wrote:
So Gutta wrote:Morey messed up by trading a starting SF (Ariza) for a backup SG (Lee).

Why they couldn't give Ariza a fresh new year, in a different role, with Yao back, is ridiculous. I think Morey got a bit too cocky, and didn't quite realize what he had stolen from LA. Trust me, everyone in LA all year was wondering whether or not the Ariza - Artest swap was good for the Lakers until they won the chip and Artest had a good game 7.

Ariza is now flourishing in NOLA with Chris Paul. Is Lee balling it up in Houston? Does Lee solve any defensive problems Houston may have? That trade made no sense at the time, and now you're forced to deal with it the way the Lakers had to deal with trading away Caron Butler too soon.

Hopefully Morey can recover from this mistake.
bull. Ariza isn't exactly flourishing in NO. He's a role player that had chemistry issues with the team. Is he a better player than Lee? Probably, but to act like he'd make a significant impact on our team as a whole is doubtful whether you want to believe it or not.

U gotta admit that Ariza plays better defense than an aging Battier, Overrated defender Lee, Chase Budinger or definitely Kmart. Those are 4 of our swingplayers that aren't able to play good D consistently. Last year we had a depleted roster, and Ariza was given a bigger role, but he did exceptional. If you see Lee and Kmart, they haven't done much better with their bigger roles. Kmart is ok at offense but not a goto guy, and his defense is one of the worst.
You're delusional if you don't think Ariza would've done better than Lee and made us alot better than 3-8? I don't remember us losing to lottery teams even with a depleted roster last yr. Our starting 5 is ok, but once the 2nd unit gets in we become worst because Battier can only play so many minutes at SF. Plus battier has almost 0 athleticism and is so slow and only can shoot jumpshots that he's worst at this year. Ariza and Battier were a good unit for us.. So this trade was definitely a bad one.

aznkillabeezZz · Post #17 » by **aznkillabeezZz** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:27 am

So Gutta wrote:Morey messed up by trading a starting SF (Ariza) for a backup SG (Lee).

Why they couldn't give Ariza a fresh new year, in a different role, with Yao back, is ridiculous. I think Morey got a bit too cocky, and didn't quite realize what he had stolen from LA. Trust me, everyone in LA all year was wondering whether or not the Ariza - Artest swap was good for the Lakers until they won the chip and Artest had a good game 7.

Ariza is now flourishing in NOLA with Chris Paul. Is Lee balling it up in Houston? Does Lee solve any defensive problems Houston may have? That trade made no sense at the time, and now you're forced to deal with it the way the Lakers had to deal with trading away Caron Butler too soon.

Hopefully Morey can recover from this mistake.

Gotta agree.

M4P · Post #18 » by **M4P** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:30 am

aznkillabeezZz wrote:U gotta admit that Ariza plays better defense than an aging Battier, Overrated defender Lee, Chase Budinger or definitely Kmart. Those are 4 of our swingplayers that aren't able to play good D consistently. Last year we had a depleted roster, and Ariza was given a bigger role, but he did exceptional. If you see Lee and Kmart, they haven't done much better with their bigger roles. Kmart is ok at offense but not a goto guy, and his defense is one of the worst.
You're delusional if you don't think Ariza would've done better than Lee and made us alot better than 3-8? I don't remember us losing to lottery teams even with a depleted roster last yr. Our starting 5 is ok, but once the 2nd unit gets in we become worst because Battier can only play so many minutes at SF. Plus battier has almost 0 athleticism and is so slow and only can shoot jumpshots that he's worst at this year. Ariza and Battier were a good unit for us.. So this trade was definitely a bad one.

I openly admit that Ariza is better than what we traded for. But the fact is, he was a moping bitch here that had issues with Brooks and others when he didn't get the ball. If we knew that Battier would've declined this much I'm sure Morey wouldn't have traded him.

Baller 24 · Post #19 » by **Baller 24** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:57 pm

I'm sorry, but for this one, I blame Daryl Morey. At the time we thought they were big moves, he did some great trades, but we're literally STUCK now. We have this 7'6 injury prone agile center that we're most likely going to CONTINUE to have on our roster until he retires. We have a solid power forward, but he's getting into his 30s, and had about 4 more years left on his contract. We have a one dimensional efficient shooting guard that has trouble closing out games, locked up for about 2-3 more years. And we just picked up the option for Courtney Lee, who's showen that he's absolutely lost on the court. We're literally stuck, thank you Daryl Morey for building a win-now team, built around a 7'6 tower that consistently has collapsed for the past 5 years now.

aznkillabeezZz · Post #20 » by **aznkillabeezZz** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:13 pm

M4P wrote:
aznkillabeezZz wrote:U gotta admit that Ariza plays better defense than an aging Battier, Overrated defender Lee, Chase Budinger or definitely Kmart. Those are 4 of our swingplayers that aren't able to play good D consistently. Last year we had a depleted roster, and Ariza was given a bigger role, but he did exceptional. If you see Lee and Kmart, they haven't done much better with their bigger roles. Kmart is ok at offense but not a goto guy, and his defense is one of the worst.
You're delusional if you don't think Ariza would've done better than Lee and made us alot better than 3-8? I don't remember us losing to lottery teams even with a depleted roster last yr. Our starting 5 is ok, but once the 2nd unit gets in we become worst because Battier can only play so many minutes at SF. Plus battier has almost 0 athleticism and is so slow and only can shoot jumpshots that he's worst at this year. Ariza and Battier were a good unit for us.. So this trade was definitely a bad one.

I openly admit that Ariza is better than what we traded for. But the fact is, he was a moping bitch here that had issues with Brooks and others when he didn't get the ball. If we knew that Battier would've declined this much I'm sure Morey wouldn't have traded him.

At least he asks for the ball, look at Pumpfake (kmart) in the 4th. He's more passive than a church mouse when the game's on the line. And you call someone a moping bitch when he showed enthusiasm lol.. That's the type of players you need. The ones who show competitive drive, and if teammates fight, so be it. As long as they play hard during games. I know he can't shoot that great but he was clutch sometimes, and asking for the ball is a positive. Not everyone can get along with eachother. Not a good enough reason to trade him. U want the team to be like the girls scouts where everyone gets along and holds hands (like it is right now) but we lose. Not good.