No Salary cap in 2010?

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Post#1 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun May 18, 2008 12:49 pm

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ ... p_in_2010/

Are you effin kidding me? Does the NFL want to go the way of that joke of a sport baseball? Do we really want to see every great player on the cowboys(and watch them lose anyway)?

This is absurd, I want to hear someone who is more in the know speak on this ICness.

I would hate for this to happen, large market teams already have an advantage as free agent draws, to we really need to give them all the power?

Upshaw has said that if the salary cap disappears, he
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Post#2 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun May 18, 2008 2:36 pm

This is going to suck for the small market teams...

good thing Dan Snyder has a pocket the size of the universe.
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Post#3 » by treiz » Sun May 18, 2008 3:30 pm

This is stupid, Gene Upshaw is the biggest idiot on the planet. If this happens, I'm never watching football again.
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Post#4 » by Da Schwab » Sun May 18, 2008 4:22 pm

treiz wrote:This is stupid, Gene Upshaw is the biggest idiot on the planet. If this happens, I'm never watching football again.


Lets not stray into hyperbole, now.
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Post#5 » by travis minor » Sun May 18, 2008 7:48 pm

yea, tom brady is garbage without video











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Post#6 » by kingofthecourt67 » Sun May 18, 2008 8:02 pm

That would be horrible, I really don't want to see a similar result to baseball. I still love the sport but it is absolutely ridiculous for the Yankees to be spending 100s of millions of dollars while the Marlins have a payroll of 20 million.
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Post#7 » by Disco_Biscuit » Sun May 18, 2008 8:57 pm

kingofthecourt67 wrote:That would be horrible, I really don't want to see a similar result to baseball. I still love the sport but it is absolutely ridiculous for the Yankees to be spending 100s of millions of dollars while the Marlins have a payroll of 20 million.


Yet the teams that want it more will always win. That is why the Marlins are playing at a high level.
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Post#8 » by DDV » Mon May 19, 2008 2:13 am

to be honest i wouldnt mind seeing some loaded teams again

like the steeler radier battles where u tons of hall of famers on both sides
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Post#9 » by studcrackers » Mon May 19, 2008 4:36 am

that was different though, those teams built through the draft not f/a

i wouldnt be shocked if upshaw didnt fight for a salary cap, his job is in the players interest and im sure most players want to get paid as much as possible

that said as a cowboys fan i dont want a salary cap, the nfl salary cap is part of what makes this league so great. and unlike the nba if you make a terrible signing it wont cripple you for years
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Post#10 » by DDV » Mon May 19, 2008 5:23 am

studcrackers wrote:that was different though, those teams built through the draft not f/a

i wouldnt be shocked if upshaw didnt fight for a salary cap, his job is in the players interest and im sure most players want to get paid as much as possible

that said as a cowboys fan i dont want a salary cap, the nfl salary cap is part of what makes this league so great. and unlike the nba if you make a terrible signing it wont cripple you for years


but in todays nfl those steeler teams wouldnt have won 4 titles because they would have gotten broken up after the first two
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Post#11 » by VinnyTheMick » Mon May 19, 2008 1:33 pm

The Mara's better start saving money now.
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Post#12 » by UrbanLegendMD » Mon May 19, 2008 3:18 pm

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Post#13 » by treiz » Mon May 19, 2008 3:34 pm

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Lets not stray into hyperbole, now.


I might be left with no choice. I've already lost interest in baseball
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Post#14 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Mon May 19, 2008 5:58 pm

I guess my Raiders wont be "over the cap" in a few years afterall. :D
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Post#15 » by treiz » Wed May 21, 2008 12:52 pm

^That depends, if a new deal can be reached within March 2009 then there will be salary cap in the 2010 season. I highly doubt it though.
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Post#16 » by Icness » Wed May 21, 2008 1:52 pm

Uncapping the salaries will not have all that much of an impact. The players are alloted 60% of total league revenues--the NFLPA will not go lower than that and the owners won't go more than .5% higher. So league-wide, salaries are in effect capped. Some teams already spend a lot more than others and circumvent the cap with all sorts of maneuvering like front- or back-loaded signing bonuses, roster bonuses, non-guaranteed $$, etc. In short, if the Skins want to sign lots of big-ticket free agents to outrageous money, they pretty much already could.

The issue is with the lower-revenue clubs. I can absolutely guarantee you those clubs will not agree to any new CBA without some form of revenue sharing, and that more streams of revenue will get pooled into that than what currently constitutes league-wide revenue--think stadium naming rights, PSL sales, individual team contracts with local adverts, etc.
There are enough teams that fit into that boat (PIT, BUF, STL, GB, CIN, KC, ATL--which makes less $$ than any other team most years, NO, JAX, OAK, MIN) to make for a powerful voting bloc. And the NFLPA will certainly support their position, because that will help the rank-and-file veterans earn more $$ and have more security. So I wouldn't worry all that much about losing competitive balance that exists today. Uncapping it just puts more pressure on GMs to make better decisions. Don't forget teams will have more ability to retain their own FAs (each team will get two franchise tags and two transition tags for the 2010 season) and contract length goes from 4 years to 6 years before free agency.
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