Sam Dalembert and court vision

[SacKingZZZ]

Really think this deserves it's own thread, have you seen some of the passes this guys dishes out? He's got some excellent court vision!!! I didn't know he had that aspect to his game. That between the legs pass he nearly pulled off to Beno (Beno passed it off near the rim) was sick! I think we could seriously run some motion offense through he and Cousins.

[KF10]

Yeah, he did surprised me with his vision and he should pull of some nice passes this season but with that said, I don't think the Kings shouldn't run anything through Dalembert offensively.

I much rather have him score opportunistically in terms of offensive rebounds, tip ins, lobs for alleyoops, simple hooks around the basket or anything in that nature.

It's important to plant Dalembert in the post and not have him in the perimeter. That is what the Kings brought him here: to defend, block shots and rebound. Not adding another offensive option, especially a limited offensive guy in Dalembert.

If I see him in the perimeter facilitating the offense, I will break something. He eventually will pile up turnovers and do something out of his capabilities. This is what Sixers fans don't like about Dalembert: he tends to do something dumb.

[voodooguru]

This is what Sixers fans don't like about Dalembert: he tends to do something dumb.

This is what some Philly phans carry on about. Mostly, they're living in the past because they don't really have anything much to contribute to a discussion about ballin'. I call them Philly's and1 generation.

Dali is a latecomer to basketball. He made a lot of bonehead plays right up to '07-'08, when I believe he turned a corner. That year he played 33+, averaged a double-double and the Philly 'Ers played the 8th best D in the Association. His hands were still suspect but they'd improved. I could live with his 1.89 turns per 33 minutes because our paint was Closed For Business. 1.89 per 33.

Over the next 2 seasons inept coaches, instead of increasing his minutes by 8-10%, decreased his minutes by 25%. Our D dropped almost to the barrel's bottom, but Little Hatee still came within a whisper of averaging a double-double with 2 plus blocks in just 26 minutes per in '09-'10.

I''ve been watching this guy for years. I think he's improved in every area except minutes. In mid-December of '09-'10 he tied his '08-'09 assist total. Mid-December. More than guys who grew up playing the game, he needs continuity and regular minutes, especially after missing the entire preseason.

He'll be better this time next week, and if he get's the minutes and he's still there in Sactown he'll be even better next year.

[_SRV_]

Actually Dally's biggest problem IMO is his inability to move with the ball, which makes him a finisher and a defender, many bigs are like that in this league, that and his occasional goal tends, I like Dally more than Landry looking forward.
And SackingZZZ, you look for motion offense in every big the Kings bring I'm waiting for your comments on Dasagna Diop's passing if he ever comes here.

[PaKwAn]

Dally >>>>> Landry

[OGSactownballer]

You cannot teach either size or shotblocking ability.

[SacKingZZZ]

Actually Dally's biggest problem IMO is his inability to move with the ball, which makes him a finisher and a defender, many bigs are like that in this league, that and his occasional goal tends, I like Dally more than Landry looking forward.
And SackingZZZ, you look for motion offense in every big the Kings bring I'm waiting for your comments on Dasagna Diop's passing if he ever comes here.

When Diop easily puts out a backwards between the legs pass to somebody cutting to the rim I'll be raving about his court vision too! Honestly Dalembert has been making some really nice passes. He also made a nice pass to D-block while half way into a jumper. Cousins has already shown some unbelievable court vision as well. Hate to see talent like that wasted away while our offense looks so disjointed as this team struggles for some consistent offense. Could also give more validation to the idea that Daly isn't some one trick pony that's going to be a liability on offense. I'm not so impressed with his iso play but in terms of letting the offense flow through him? I like what I see.

[SacKingZZZ]

Yeah, he did surprised me with his vision and he should pull of some nice passes this season but with that said, I don't think the Kings shouldn't run anything through Dalembert offensively.

I much rather have him score opportunistically in terms of offensive rebounds, tip ins, lobs for alleyoops, simple hooks around the basket or anything in that nature.

It's important to plant Dalembert in the post and not have him in the perimeter. That is what the Kings brought him here: to defend, block shots and rebound. Not adding another offensive option, especially a limited offensive guy in Dalembert.

If I see him in the perimeter facilitating the offense, I will break something. He eventually will pile up turnovers and do something out of his capabilities. This is what Sixers fans don't like about Dalembert: he tends to do something dumb.

Offensively? Nah, not too impressed with his post play. Decent half hook shot but that 10-15 foot jumper is pretty much money. I re-watched the game and the only significant turnover type plays he made last night was when the ball was forced to him down low and he tried to make a move. His vision is legit and I'm starting to see why Webber thinks he can do some seriously great things if given the chance.

[KF10]

Offensively? Nah, not too impressed with his post play. Decent half hook shot but that 10-15 foot jumper is pretty much money. I re-watched the game and the only significant turnover type plays he made last night was when the ball was forced to him down low and he tried to make a move. His vision is legit and I'm starting to see why Webber thinks he can do some seriously great things if given the chance.

The point is, I want Dalembert score opportunistically. I never liked Dalembert handling the ball or put the ball on the ground.

Maybe, I could give Dalembert some games to prove he can be a valuable asset on offense in terms of what you are saying SKZZZ. But I wouldn't hold my breath on Dalembert becoming more than just a garbage scorer around the rim.

[SacKingZZZ]

The point is, I want Dalembert score opportunistically. I never liked Dalembert handling the ball or put the ball on the ground.

Maybe, I could give Dalembert some games to prove he can be a valuable asset on offense in terms of what you are saying SKZZZ. But I wouldn't hold my breath on Dalembert becoming more than just a garbage scorer around the rim.

I know what you're saying, but on a team that's looking as horrible as we are, the old adage of "if not now, then when?" seems appropriate.

Him handling the ball when looking to pass it actually looks pretty solid so there could be potential there. Handling when looking to score looks like it's a total work in progress that's been a work in progress that looks like it will remain a work in progress.

Still, if the idea is to play him, and especially next to a player like Tyreke, he's going to have to be a factor on the offensive end. One of the reasons Tyreke had such a hard time against the T-wolves is they played off of him and just packed the paint and having a player that's a completely non-factor in the course of your offense will only make it worse. I see some light peaking through the cracks of the potential for Daly to become a factor offensively, I think it's at least worth exploring.

[asakkings]

Daly needs to be re-signed for a couple more years, I would much rather keep him than Landry.

[PaKwAn]

Daly needs to be re-signed for a couple more years, I would much rather keep him than Landry.

+1

[SacKingZZZ]

I hope this season of actually having some shotblockers isn't just brief relief from the norm!

[tgo2223]

This is what Sixers fans don't like about Dalembert: he tends to do something dumb.

This is what some Philly phans carry on about. Mostly, they're living in the past because they don't really have anything much to contribute to a discussion about ballin'. I call them Philly's and1 generation.

Dali is a latecomer to basketball. He made a lot of bonehead plays right up to '07-'08, when I believe he turned a corner. That year he played 33+, averaged a double-double and the Philly 'Ers played the 8th best D in the Association. His hands were still suspect but they'd improved. I could live with his 1.89 turns per 33 minutes because our paint was Closed For Business. 1.89 per 33.

Over the next 2 seasons inept coaches, instead of increasing his minutes by 8-10%, decreased his minutes by 25%. Our D dropped almost to the barrel's bottom, but Little Hatee still came within a whisper of averaging a double-double with 2 plus blocks in just 26 minutes per in '09-'10.

I''ve been watching this guy for years. I think he's improved in every area except minutes. In mid-December of '09-'10 he tied his '08-'09 assist total. Mid-December. More than guys who grew up playing the game, he needs continuity and regular minutes, especially after missing the entire preseason.

He'll be better this time next week, and if he get's the minutes and he's still there in Sactown he'll be even better next year.

Just curious. Do u ever come to the sixers boards and read our discussions? What is this and1 generation your talking about. And if we have that, then dont all boards. Im tired of people ragging on Philly fans