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Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#1 » by doclinkin » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:14 am

Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses?

Scuttlebutt around the boards seems to suggest the Miami Heat boards may have gotten a little hypersensitive and perhaps overzealous in playing 'whack-a-mole' on perceived trolls.

I suspect elevated expectations and the summer's PR stumbles (in the case of LeBron) may mean the team is more vulnerable to the Nelson Muntzes of the world haw hawing at every mini misstep, I can see why gunslinger mods might be a little jumpy, twitchy with the hairtrigger, but even so it seems to me a poster ought to progress through warnings or suspensions before they are drop-kicked out of the room on a permanent basis.

The wizboard lost our resident jinx, 'ji' who's naturally a bit of downer but we enjoy his Eeeyore aspect and his completely inaccurate weather-predictions. This is along-time poster who has long ago entered into the lore of the board, and generally adds amusing content even if he is clearly entirely responsible for all our previous terrible luck (in injuries, crappy draft picks up to now, etc).

His demeanor is rarely positive, which can read as trolling I suppose, but to be fair he's more of a plague on our team than anyone else's, and seems to me it ought to be fair game to occasionally wonder about a front-office decision. IN this case it looks like the guy was banned for suggesting that the Heat would eventually regret Chris Bosh's contract. That seems to me a reasonable opinion to offer, even if I think he's basically wrong considering they got LeBron for pennies on the dollar in large part because Bosh signed with the team. Seems to me it would be fair to debate the point though, not crush a poster like bug just because their opinion don't jive.

I suppose I'm used to the Wiz Board where we kinda welcome trolls (not kinda, we actually had a 'Welcome, trolls' thread for a while, just so we could get a good debate going) but it seems to me that a little back-and-forth on a topic is what keeps these boards from being a self-flogging circle-jerk and instead become a FORUM for conversation and discourse and even a bit of well-reasoned debate, Heck, even jibes and jeering among friends, so long as the thread is not derailed and the topic is germane.

ji does not to appear to be the only casualty of what must have been a trying night for moderator patience or something. Looks like a few posters got caught in some sort of toxic fallout. I'd just feel a little better about the deal if there were some sort of star chamber to review whether the execution of a fellow was warranted, or perhaps admittedly a bit hasty, to be commuted to time served after the fact..
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#2 » by Scabs304 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:51 am

Just to piggyback on this post. Is there anyway were a poster can just be banned from a certain board or just limited to one board? I know you guys have the moderators board and I know it might be a hassle to make this work, but when it comes to long term members of the forum I think it might be best for business to keep them around.
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Post#3 » by Dry_Fish » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:30 am

I believe Netforce was banned from the general board and the Knicks board before getting waived altogether, so it's possible.
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Post#4 » by PerkinsFor3 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:40 am

I think people should stop using the word 'troll' as much as they do.
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#5 » by magnumt » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:18 pm

Scabs304 wrote:Just to piggyback on this post. Is there anyway were a poster can just be banned from a certain board or just limited to one board? I know you guys have the moderators board and I know it might be a hassle to make this work, but when it comes to long term members of the forum I think it might be best for business to keep them around.


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Post#6 » by Gek » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:53 pm

The Wizards don't have fans, who are you kidding.

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Post#7 » by Gremz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:08 am

G=K wrote:The Wizards don't have fans, who are you kidding.

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Well of course they don't. You can't legally own the supporters of a sporting team.
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#8 » by Schad » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:18 pm

Dunno about the circumstances here, so I won't comment on Ji, but I do think that mods should look to board-ban posters from other boards when they slip up on the mod's home turf rather than banning them outright, unless the conduct is so far beyond the pale that a full ban in necessary.
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#9 » by BanndNDC » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:55 am

"Page 36 (game thread)--
Ji wrote:Lebron only 13 shots? WTF/// Lebron way better than Wade....he should not be shooting 13 times. Bosh just sucks. thats going to be a contract you regret"

versus

"anotherhomer wrote: So the question is whether Chris Bosh will be able to... justify the money's he's making." (lead post of a 10 page thread entitled "Is Bosh a Good long term fit")


how can something be bannable when it is freely stated by their own fans and a front page subject of debate?
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Post#10 » by nonemus » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:43 am

BanndNDC wrote:"Page 36 (game thread)--
Ji wrote:Lebron only 13 shots? WTF/// Lebron way better than Wade....he should not be shooting 13 times. Bosh just sucks. thats going to be a contract you regret"

versus

"anotherhomer wrote: So the question is whether Chris Bosh will be able to... justify the money's he's making." (lead post of a 10 page thread entitled "Is Bosh a Good long term fit")


how can something be bannable when it is freely stated by their own fans and a front page subject of debate?


I don't get your point. Is it that you don't see the blatant difference of intent between the two posts?
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#11 » by jim todd » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:42 pm

BanndNDC wrote:"Page 36 (game thread)--
Ji wrote:Lebron only 13 shots? WTF/// Lebron way better than Wade....he should not be shooting 13 times. Bosh just sucks. thats going to be a contract you regret"

versus

"anotherhomer wrote: So the question is whether Chris Bosh will be able to... justify the money's he's making." (lead post of a 10 page thread entitled "Is Bosh a Good long term fit")


how can something be bannable when it is freely stated by their own fans and a front page subject of debate?


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Post#12 » by MajorDad » Sun Jan 2, 2011 12:37 am

I'd like to know what recourse a poster has who has been banned? what is his/her appeal process? I have a mod who is constantly deleting my posts and also allows other harassements and personal attacks to occur of other posters. if i were to accuse the mod of allowing the harassement to continue, he would more than likely delete my accusation post and ban me for the good of his board. I've proven him to be wrong in the past, and he'll delete the entire thread. what recourse would I have? What rights as a poster do I have? if my posts were deleted, are they still available in some archive somewhere to be used in my defense? I've witnessed mods of other sites abuse their power. I've also been been from other sites because i've defended others' posting rights and questioned the authority's right to ban a poster from a public forum.

i believe posters should have some type of rights and protection from over zealous mods and als o some form of recourse action.
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Re: Is it possible to review 'waived' posters offenses? 

Post#13 » by Basti » Sun Jan 2, 2011 11:33 pm

Send a PM to another mod of the board you're posting on, or, if that doesn't work, contact one of the higher ups (global mods, admins). They should be able to help you about that issue.

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