Is the experiment in Miami is failing?

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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#141 » by MSGBallerz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:30 pm

They are playing 3on5, Bosh is sucking, and Wade does nothing but shoot. So yeah, its kind of difficult.
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#142 » by Flash3 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:30 pm

menofvalor wrote:Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.

:lol: People really hate and dislike this team yet the threads he seem they can't get enough of the HEAT and LBJ.
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#143 » by mike- » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:31 pm

menofvalor wrote:Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.


It's not a wild idea at all to think thats still something ridiculous to say.
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#144 » by Jose_Matador » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:32 pm

rendezvousness wrote:he said "if we could we would play 48 minutes a game"

how is that contradicting anything. your stupid man
you're actually right after I rewatched the video, I will change the thread title to suit the video better.
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#145 » by Winterfrost » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:32 pm

I like to hate on Heat as much as most other guys here but this is clearly not a contradiction. Which basketball player don't want to play the whole game? There's a difference between wanting to play 48 minutes and being realistic about what sort of game minutes is sustainable.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#146 » by coldfish » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:32 pm

SSUBluesman wrote:Wait, are people really surprised that a month into the season the Heat don't just steamroll talented and well-built teams? That when experience and chemistry matter their lack of it hurts? I really don't know what to say to people who purport to be at least minimally knowledgeable and experienced with the game of basketball who express such ignorance.


I think people thought that the Miami big three would end up being a better version of the Boston big three. In Boston's first 8 games together after getting Garnett and Allen, Boston was 8-0. So, yes, I think people are somewhat surprised. A lot of this thread is discussing the differences in those situations and they are pretty clear:
- Pierce, Allen and Garnett complement each other better than Bosh, Wade and Lebron, even if their total talent isn't as great.
- Boston had much better depth, with Rondo and Perkins and Posey, etc. in place when the Celtics got together.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... on-celtics
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Post#147 » by Jose_Matador » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:33 pm

Thread title corrected.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#148 » by MSGBallerz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:34 pm

Boston's big 3 complemented each other better, and their PG and C were obviously far better than Miami's PG and C. Obviously they had no one as good as LeBron though, but still.
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#149 » by Stills12 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:35 pm

charity stripe wrote:Are we getting to the point where we will be seeing Lebron farting threads pop up again?

seems like it :(
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#150 » by menofvalor » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:35 pm

Flash3 wrote:
menofvalor wrote:Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.

:lol: People really hate and dislike this team yet the threads he seem they can't get enough of the HEAT and LBJ.

Its sad really, I guess Lebron and D-Wade are not humans and don't have the right to be tired.
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#151 » by jjin28 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:38 pm

Flash3 wrote:
menofvalor wrote:Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.

:lol: People really hate and dislike this team yet the threads he seem they can't get enough of the HEAT and LBJ.


LOL. coming from the mod that locks every negative heat thread and lets every positive heat / lebron / wade thread stay alive.

And come on....Lebron took a cop out with the Press conference. Just admit that you lost and don't say you tired or question and call out your coach on a national forum.....
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#152 » by Flash3 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:41 pm

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Flash3 wrote:
menofvalor wrote:Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.

:lol: People really hate and dislike this team yet the threads he seem they can't get enough of the HEAT and LBJ.


LOL. coming from the mod that locks every negative heat thread and lets every positive heat / lebron / wade thread stay alive.

And come on....Lebron took a cop out with the Press conference. Just admit that you lost and don't say you tired or question and call out your coach on a national forum.....


:lol: Yes, I should lock this one too then, right?

Seems you took my petty comment personal. lol -- With all the national hatred Miami is receiving about what they did; a lot of people continue to watch and talk about them.

Not sure what's wrong with that? :dontknow:
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#153 » by Lakeshow2417 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:41 pm

lol some of you are terrible.

if this team woulD implement an offense such as the flex offense or a Basiv motion offense. they would finish top 2 in the East.

these guys were holding opponents to 40% FG defense w/o any offense. imagine if they had an offensive system in play.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#154 » by Flash3 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:43 pm

Lakeshow2417 wrote:lol some of you are terrible.

if this team woulD implement an offense such as the flex offense or a Basiv motion offense. they would finish top 2 in the East.

these guys were holding opponents to 40% FG defense w/o any offense. imagine if they had an offensive system in play.


The current head coach isn't as knowledgeable on this and there in lies the issues amongst others; effort, rebounding, and slow rotations.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#155 » by desertlakerfan » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:50 pm

Lakeshow2417 wrote:lol some of you are terrible.

if this team woulD implement an offense such as the flex offense or a Basiv motion offense. they would finish top 2 in the East.

these guys were holding opponents to 40% FG defense w/o any offense. imagine if they had an offensive system in play.


I wouldn't put too much stock into that 40% FG defense, as 6 outta the 7 teams they've faced so far have a offense ranked in the bottom half of the league(Utah is the only one ranked in the top half). 9 game sample is small for everything, including defensive stats.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#156 » by Knickz4life88 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:52 pm

I think if anyone that would probably want out its Lebron..I have a feeling he realizes he made a mistake and if his friend Bosh goes hes not going to want to be there
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#157 » by Lakeshow2417 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:53 pm

you are absolutely right with the small sample size.
FG %D which I believe MIA will be good at. and be in the top 5

rebounding is important too. especially rebounding, when it comes to OPPG it depends on the pace
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#158 » by Endorush » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:03 pm

i think miami should definitely blow it up.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#159 » by MiamiNative0722 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:03 pm

Knickz4life88 wrote:I think if anyone that would probably want out its Lebron..I have a feeling he realizes he made a mistake and if his friend Bosh goes hes not going to want to be there


What a joke bro.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#160 » by SSUBluesman » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:11 am

coldfish wrote:
SSUBluesman wrote:Wait, are people really surprised that a month into the season the Heat don't just steamroll talented and well-built teams? That when experience and chemistry matter their lack of it hurts? I really don't know what to say to people who purport to be at least minimally knowledgeable and experienced with the game of basketball who express such ignorance.


I think people thought that the Miami big three would end up being a better version of the Boston big three. In Boston's first 8 games together after getting Garnett and Allen, Boston was 8-0. So, yes, I think people are somewhat surprised. A lot of this thread is discussing the differences in those situations and they are pretty clear:
- Pierce, Allen and Garnett complement each other better than Bosh, Wade and Lebron, even if their total talent isn't as great.
- Boston had much better depth, with Rondo and Perkins and Posey, etc. in place when the Celtics got together.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/ ... on-celtics


I'm not arguing over whether they are surprised, I'm arguing that there is no justification for such a reaction. Nothing you say actually addresses that point.
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