Not even overreacting....we should trade Amare

[HNICII]

Every dominant bigman in the NBA has a star wing player to complement them.


The defense will continue to collapse on Amare knowing the rest of the team has a below avg bball IQ. Give him a break. He needs help

[Siem]

Atleast some of you have sense..I'm on the 100 million dollar Amare Posts, and guys over there are telling me David West and Scola is a better one on one player, and their posting list of better offensive Pf's than Amare...smh. ridicolous.

[Knickz4life88]

Retards lets just give the Rockets a number 1 pick sureee...Why not?? You sound really stupidddd...REALLY STUPID!!! Amare aint going anywhere now STFU AND GTFO

[rsavaj]

Huh? Phoenix tried to lowball him and got caught with their pants down when he jumped to the Knicks. You really believe that the Suns would not have entertained paying Amare that but would have no problem paying essentially the same amount for a bunch of role players? Come on. Phoenix was so caught off guard that they had to go to Walsh and ask for a favor sign and trade so they can actually get a TPE to try to bring some more bodies in.

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

[BrooklynBulls]

100 million was more money than Amare is worth. So what? I've watched your team play more than just the Bulls game where you couldn't miss, and Amare has changed the entire team. His stats aren't sexy but he's getting guys like Toney Douglas off, and once Gallinari stops fisting himself with his injured wrist he might make him a better player, too. I for one think you're a playoff contender now, which I didn't think before.

[NikeFoamposites]

Huh? Phoenix tried to lowball him and got caught with their pants down when he jumped to the Knicks. You really believe that the Suns would not have entertained paying Amare that but would have no problem paying essentially the same amount for a bunch of role players? Come on. Phoenix was so caught off guard that they had to go to Walsh and ask for a favor sign and trade so they can actually get a TPE to try to bring some more bodies in.

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

This guy put Amare Stoudemire and Hakim Warrick in the same sentence. Stopped reading.

People seem to forget Amare served TIm Duncan his lunch repeatedly in the playoffs. Ill Always wonder what that Suns team couldve done with a real head coach.

[Future Soldier]

I for one think you're a playoff contender now, which I didn't think before.

[nyknicks09]

not happening.

Fire Mike D'Antoni

[BrooklynBulls]

I for one think you're a playoff contender now, which I didn't think before.

I am hilarious, but that was not intended as a joke.

[rsavaj]

Huh? Phoenix tried to lowball him and got caught with their pants down when he jumped to the Knicks. You really believe that the Suns would not have entertained paying Amare that but would have no problem paying essentially the same amount for a bunch of role players? Come on. Phoenix was so caught off guard that they had to go to Walsh and ask for a favor sign and trade so they can actually get a TPE to try to bring some more bodies in.

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

This guy put Amare Stoudemire and Hakim Warrick in the same sentence. Stopped reading.

People seem to forget Amare served TIm Duncan his lunch repeatedly in the playoffs. Ill Always wonder what that Suns team couldve done with a real head coach.

"People seem to forget"....not me. I've watched almost every game Amare has played in the NBA. I know what he can and can not do. I was on this board two years ago telling you guys what to expect if you signed him. I never said Warrick was anywhere close to Amare as a player, but he was primarily our roll-man in Phoenix, and Warrick is not doing badly at that position right now.

Amare went off on Duncan pre-MF. Amare pre-MF could have been one of the greatest PFs of all time. Heck, post-MF he still can, but he's never put forth the effort consistently. He gives you points aplenty, but that's about it.

[rsavaj]

I for one think you're a playoff contender now, which I didn't think before.

I am hilarious, but that was not intended as a joke.

I picked NYK for the playoffs too this season. The attention Amare attracts down-low should change this team for the better.

[Future Soldier]

I for one think you're a playoff contender now, which I didn't think before.

I am hilarious, but that was not intended as a joke.

unfortunately, the notion of THIS team participating in the playoffs is comical.

we could turn it around against Houston and win 10 of our next 11. I could randomly get into an arm wrestling contest with Sylvester Stallone tomorrow and re-enact the finale to Over The Top, too. Neither are likely to happen, so I prefer to be realistic about things. We suck Super Mutant Behemoth balls. That's all there is to it.

[NikeFoamposites]

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

This guy put Amare Stoudemire and Hakim Warrick in the same sentence. Stopped reading.

People seem to forget Amare served TIm Duncan his lunch repeatedly in the playoffs. Ill Always wonder what that Suns team couldve done with a real head coach.

"People seem to forget"....not me. I've watched almost every game Amare has played in the NBA. I know what he can and can not do. I was on this board two years ago telling you guys what to expect if you signed him. I never said Warrick was anywhere close to Amare as a player, but he was primarily our roll-man in Phoenix, and Warrick is not doing badly at that position right now.

Amare went off on Duncan pre-MF. Amare pre-MF could have been one of the greatest PFs of all time. Heck, post-MF he still can, but he's never put forth the effort consistently. He gives you points aplenty, but that's about it.

He needs a defensive center. He was abusing rosters in the 2nd half with Robin at the 5. Post-MF. The way the Knicks play its impossible for him to succeed, and hes still putting up 22 a game. Hes been better than I originally thought defensively also.

I personally have no problem with the Amare signing. When Lee and Boozer get the contracts they did, along with players like Rudy Gay and Mike Conley, Amares deal seem fair

[Punk]

do you think they want to even play here when they see how dumb he is? The man is a walking turnover. Imagine Carmelo watching this game, what could possibly be going through his head?

"Damn son...I can't WAIT to play with a niqqa who loves to barrel into 4 defenders and jack up horrible shots when his teammates are open! That could be ME getting ignored on offense! SIGN ME UP NOW!"

ah because Carmelo is going to care about his friend turning the ball over instead of his family, his friendship with Amare and roots in NYC.

Are you that stupid? or that desperate to make a point? Not even trying to start anything here but this is stupid as can be.

LeBron had 10 turnovers in that boston game, I know Wade didnt watch and say "daymm son dat niqqa got no handle, i dont want his ass in my team lolz"

[moocow007]

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

You mismanaged the whole thing terribly. From low-balling Stoudemire, apparently because you thought you had more time (no one would sign until Lebron decided) and less competition for him (no one would give him more than that deal) and than having to scramble to fill what he brought by throwing more money at 3 guys (Turkeyglue, Frye and Warrick) than it would have cost to keep him. You can't point to Warrick who has hardly shown he's replaced Stoudemire and ignore the cost of Turkeyglue and Frye.

[rsavaj]

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

You mismanaged the whole thing terribly. From low-balling Stoudemire, apparently because you thought you had more time (no one would sign until Lebron decided) and less competition for him (no one would give him more than that deal) and than having to scramble to fill what he brought by throwing more money at 3 guys (Turkeyglue, Frye and Warrick) than it would have cost to keep him. You can't point to Warrick who has hardly shown he's replaced Stoudemire and ignore the cost of Turkeyglue and Frye.

"Fair offer" does not equal "lowball". And "overpaying" does not equal "fair offer".

Turkeyglue was a terrible move. I agree with you wholeheartedly and hate the move more than you ever will.

Warrick and Frye were good signings. That's all there is to it.

[rsavaj]

He needs a defensive center. He was abusing rosters in the 2nd half with Robin at the 5. Post-MF. The way the Knicks play its impossible for him to succeed, and hes still putting up 22 a game. Hes been better than I originally thought defensively also.

I personally have no problem with the Amare signing. When Lee and Boozer get the contracts they did, along with players like Rudy Gay and Mike Conley, Amares deal seem fair

Yeah, any time you put him next to a C that lets him focus on being a scoring PF he takes off. He was averaging 29/9 during our last SSOL season next to Shaq(when Mike was here). Lopez had a similar affect as well.

If you could get someone like that...Chandler-esque or something, you'd be set. Oh, and a good PnR guard too. I think that could be a top 4 seed.

[Future Soldier]

do you think they want to even play here when they see how dumb he is? The man is a walking turnover. Imagine Carmelo watching this game, what could possibly be going through his head?

"Damn son...I can't WAIT to play with a niqqa who loves to barrel into 4 defenders and jack up horrible shots when his teammates are open! That could be ME getting ignored on offense! SIGN ME UP NOW!"

ah because Carmelo is going to care about his friend turning the ball over instead of his family, his friendship with Amare and roots in NYC.

Are you that stupid? or that desperate to make a point? Not even trying to start anything here but this is stupid as can be.

LeBron had 10 turnovers in that boston game, I know Wade didnt watch and say "daymm son dat niqqa got no handle, i dont want his ass in my team lolz"

1. Lebron is a proven commodity....he is a 2x NBA MVP. Nobody is going to doubt him.

2. Comparing Lebron's situation to Amare's is stupid....so please, ask yourself the same question you just posed to me.

3. Carmelo will be infected with loser-itis if he comes to NY. For the sake of his career, I hope he stays away. It's like when you become a Knick, your will to win and live/breathe air/survive is just sapped. You become a husk of your former self, on some Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers shyt. Melo would be wise to stay away from this toxic environment if he knew what was good for him.

[moocow007]

We didn't lowball him. We gave him an incredibly fair deal with minutes-based incentives. He refused and took the fully guaranteed offer from you guys(an overpayment by most Suns fans standards). We didn't want to give him a fully guaranteed deal due to health concerns. As far as your role player comment...he WAS a role-player. He is the greatest assisted-finisher in the NBA. He was a finely-tuned offensive weapon...but we didn't need that for $100 mill. Warrick's a bargain right now and Nash has worked his magic once again.

As far as the sign and trade thing...that's what happens when Robert Sarver thinks he's a better GM than the GM he pushed out(Kerr). We mismanaged that pretty turribly.

You mismanaged the whole thing terribly. From low-balling Stoudemire, apparently because you thought you had more time (no one would sign until Lebron decided) and less competition for him (no one would give him more than that deal) and than having to scramble to fill what he brought by throwing more money at 3 guys (Turkeyglue, Frye and Warrick) than it would have cost to keep him. You can't point to Warrick who has hardly shown he's replaced Stoudemire and ignore the cost of Turkeyglue and Frye.

"Fair offer" does not equal "lowball". And "overpaying" does not equal "fair offer".

Turkeyglue was a terrible move. I agree with you wholeheartedly and hate the move more than you ever will.

Warrick and Frye were good signings. That's all there is to it.

The Suns inexperienced ownership "lowballed". You don't offer that to your top guy, your biggest name, your cornerstone player right off the bat regardless of what you may or may not think he's worth (or if you did or didn't want him back...and you have no idea what they did or didn't want). And if you don't think he was worth that what on earth has Turkeyglue, Frye and Warrick done to warrant thinking that they are worth combined what they got? The Suns would still be better if they had just given Stoudemire what he got from the Knicks (remember they still have Nash which makes Stoudemire still a potent weapon and nothing that Warrick does will top that). As far as worries about his knees? You mean the ones he got worked on 4 years ago? Why is 3 years or 4 years fine but damn that 5th year no good? Come on...they (Sarver) had no clue on how to be a GM and he got caught with his pants down.

[rsavaj]

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The Suns inexperienced ownership "lowballed". You don't offer that to your top guy, your biggest name, your cornerstone player right off the bat regardless of what you may or may not think he's worth. And if you don't think he was worth that what on earth has Turkeyglue, Frye and Warrick done to warrant thinking that they are worth combined what they got? The Suns would still be better if they had just given Stoudemire what he got from the Knicks (remember they still have Nash which makes Stoudemire still a potent weapon and nothing that Warrick does will top that). As far as worries about his knees? You mean the ones he got worked on 4 years ago? Why is 3 years or 4 years fine but damn that 5th year no good? Come on...they (Sarver) had no clue on how to be a GM and he got caught with his pants down.

He wasn't our top guy. He wasn't our biggest name. He wasn't our cornerstone player. Rightly or wrongly(mostly rightly), Nash was/is the face of our franchise, and he was/is definitely our best player.

Don't ask about Turkey-Glue. That was effed up. Blame Lance Banks, whoever the hell that is.

We have a series of assets that we can use in a trade for either a)financial flexibility if we need it, or b)combined for a good player if one should ever become available. The uncertainty about the new CBA makes huge contracts to injury-prone players unwise, which is why we offered Amare a contract based off (very-low) minutes-based incentives. It was a fair-deal. If he wanted to win, he would have chosen Phoenix, coming off a WCF trip. He wanted money and fame, so he went to New York. I don't blame him. Go get yours while you still have the chance. He LEFT US, not the other way around.

We're worried about his knees that got worked on 5 years ago. The operation has a 6-7 year shelf-life. We didn't bet on him being healthy, and we already lost a whole season of his tenure with us due to that surgery. Luckily, our tiny Canadian man was still around to lead us to the WCF again, without the so-called "cornerstone" sitting injured on the bench.

Sarver is a terrible GM. Kerr/Griffin should not have been let go. We got this bro. We're more upset about it than you are.