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Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It?

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#21 » by StutterStep » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:43 am

moocow007 wrote:Beasley needed 29 shots to get 34 points (see the argument why Chandler's early numbers...aka 20 shots for 20 points...were no good)


I like Beasley but you nailed it!

I'm still trying to figure out this new math where 50% shooting is not good when it comes to Chandler or any player.
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Post#22 » by Punk » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:43 am

GnarlesOakley wrote:
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GnarlesOakley wrote:Also the Knicks are terrible and that made him look better than he is, see Kevin Love and his 30/30. :oops:

Yeah, i guess the lakers made him look better than he is too when he scored 23 points/26 rebounds. :roll:


..in a loss.

You really reaching and its pathetic. If that's the case the heat and orlando magic make paul millsap look better than he is too then.

Beasley with 42 in a win last game.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#23 » by GnarlesOakley » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:45 am

Punk wrote:
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Punk wrote:Yeah, i guess the lakers made him look better than he is too when he scored 23 points/26 rebounds. :roll:


..in a loss.

You really reaching and its pathetic. If that's the case the heat and orlando magic make paul millsap look better than he is too then.

Beasley with 42 in a win last game.


Okay, Beasley is the GOAT, you win. The Twolves are going to go all the way this year.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#24 » by N8isScofield » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:45 am

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Punk wrote:wow you guys are ignorant seriously. Yes, Beasley is the next melo. Im a basketball fan, not a straight up homer that cannot see talent because im a knicks fan.

He's not in miami, he's not a young kid. He's coming into his own. Those shots he mad were tough no matter who was guarding him. If he puts up 35 that easily he will be the next big thing.


35 points on 29 shots is not good. Charles Barkley has a good old saying(possibly the only one of his beliefs that isn't stupid) that basically states that anybody can score a lot if they shoot the ball enough times. when he can put up 35 on 20 shots while being efficient and getting to the basket then he can b talked about with elite players, not against our team who you're all constantly slating for not playing defense. You can't go around anointing every player who lights the Knicks up as the "Next Big Thing". It's not the case, we just suck.

Lol the wolves had no shooters, he basically was the best thing they had. he would obviously have to take alot of shots. c'mon son.



You do realize he has 42 the other night right? Before that and his injury he dropped about 17 or 20 per game.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#25 » by ComboGuardCity » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:56 am

Next Topic, Love next Malone?
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Post#26 » by Punk » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:57 am

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Okay, Beasley is the GOAT, you win. The Twolves are going to go all the way this year.

yeah i never said that. way to be a smartass about it.

what im saying is he has the potential to be and he seems to be stepping up into that role. Rudy Gay is also. thats my point.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#27 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:00 am

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moocow007 wrote:Beasley needed 29 shots to get 34 points (see the argument why Chandler's early numbers...aka 20 shots for 20 points...were no good)


Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing tonight. He put the team on his back in the clutch and was that go to guy we lacked. He was beasting us with all star moves. IDC about his PPS because he scored when it mattered. His mid range game was flawless.

Look Im not saying he will reach Melo status so calm down people. Im just saying if anybody can its him. He was compared to Melo alot and what I saw tonight looked very much like a young Melo. Remember hes only 21 years old and dominated college just as much as Melo. This isnt some out of left field comparison. Plus he just dropped 42 a few nights ago. Hes doin work.


Beasleyis a dope.. hehad a 42 pt game the other night as well.. the guy likes to shoot and he can score.. but 35 points on 29 shots is not good... He is really not a good defender and doesn't play with great court awareness.. check back 15 games from now when beasley is chucking shots and missing and losing games for the wolves..

chandler is a different player.. in that chandler doesn't have beasley's offensive talent, but chandler is more of a two way player, he will impact the game in different ways..

beasley is not in melo's universe... if it was too early to say chandler's game has evloved, well certainly we can say the same thing about beasley after a couple of good games.. especially comparing him to melo..
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#28 » by NyKnicks1714 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:10 am

moocow007 wrote:Beasley needed 29 shots to get 34 points (see the argument why Chandler's early numbers...aka 20 shots for 20 points...were no good)


It's not good, he needs to get to the line more to become a really good scorer, but he's on his way.
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Post#29 » by Justdatdude » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:08 am

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TrueWarrior wrote:Who else thought this guy looked great tonight? His mid range game looked like Melo out there. I mean its not crazy to think he could reach that level. The dude was the number 2 pick and dominated in his lone year in college. He was compared to Melo alot coming out too. SuperCool seems to be finding his groove now and I gotta say I was impressed. Gallo and even Chandler were no match for him on D. He was creating at will. The Wolves getting him for scraps could be one of the best pickups in recent memory if he pans out.



Not quite but I remember I got into with posters and told them Miami was doing him wrong and selling him out knowing he was more talented and not as big a problem they made him out to be. Well they better enjoy Micheal Jackson's 2nd round pick value because they got took on this trade.


I remember that discussion and it was during the playoffs. Everyone blamed Beasley for Miami failing, but me and you kept saying how he's not a #2 player, and how Wade lesser the impact of the other options around him. No one was buying that at that time. The main story was Beasley sucks, Gallinari is better, and Beasley is better.

I also been made the Beasley to Melo comparison. Forget about who is better, the way they play basketball on the offensive end is similar. They both have the tools to score from anywhere on the court, the quickness to get by many wing players, and the strength to score on the smaller players. On offense, there is no move they don't have. He dominated college and was the 2nd pick. Don't let his play next to Dwade fool you. He didn't get a real opportunity in Miami. He's just now getting his chance to show what he can do as the #1 option.

Last, but not least, how is Beasley 35 points on 29 shots not good? Is it because he didn't get to the freethrow line? Everyone who watched the game seen he attacked the basket and the refs were stingy all night, as Clyde constantly pointed out. He still shot over 50% from the field. Can someone explain this to me?
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#30 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:24 am

Beasley doesn't have a position in the NBA. He's not a SF and he's not a PF. That makes him nothing more than a bench scorer on a great team. But the Wolves suck so he's the starter by default.
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Post#31 » by Vindicater » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:30 am

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Punk wrote:wow you guys are ignorant seriously. Yes, Beasley is the next melo. Im a basketball fan, not a straight up homer that cannot see talent because im a knicks fan.

He's not in miami, he's not a young kid. He's coming into his own. Those shots he mad were tough no matter who was guarding him. If he puts up 35 that easily he will be the next big thing.

he had 29 shot attempts........thats not good thats volume


Volume that hit at 55%

God New York fans are bitter.

I don't think Beasley is the next Melo but if you don't think 16/29 jump shots is good value from your main scoring option then... well... I don't know... it's just (Please Use More Appropriate Word)
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Post#32 » by duetta » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:51 am

Beasley shot over 50% from the field. I don't see how one criticizes that performance. Yeah, he took a lot of shots - but he hit a high percentage.

He looks like a different player than last season.
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Post#33 » by GotItNow » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:10 am

KnicksScholar24 wrote:I said he needed a situation like Carmelo had in Denver for his game to blossom. Being Wade's second string was holding his game back. Yes, tonight he looked unstoppable offensively. He's a million times better than Gallinari.



And 4 billion times better than that (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Chandler.

I mean Chandler is cute and all he gets a few pats on the head here and there like all stupid kids do because you hope he does well even though in the end you know he won't but that's about it.

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#34 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:05 pm

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Beasleyis a dope.. hehad a 42 pt game the other night as well.. the guy likes to shoot and he can score.. but 35 points on 29 shots is not good... He is really not a good defender and doesn't play with great court awareness.. check back 15 games from now when beasley is chucking shots and missing and losing games for the wolves..

chandler is a different player.. in that chandler doesn't have beasley's offensive talent, but chandler is more of a two way player, he will impact the game in different ways..

beasley is not in melo's universe... if it was too early to say chandler's game has evloved, well certainly we can say the same thing about beasley after a couple of good games.. especially comparing him to melo..


Oh I know Chandler is the better two way player. Hes the better defender and shot blocker. But Beasley was making moves Chandler couldnt dream of. All Im saying is he looked like Melo last night. Whether he keep it up remains to be seen, but IDK why some of you guys are getting so defensive. Had Gallo or Chandler scored like him we would be jumping for joy. Again it was how he was scoring that was special to me. Now we're using the PPS against him? Justdatdude explains it pretty well.

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I remember that discussion and it was during the playoffs. Everyone blamed Beasley for Miami failing, but me and you kept saying how he's not a #2 player, and how Wade lesser the impact of the other options around him. No one was buying that at that time. The main story was Beasley sucks, Gallinari is better, and Beasley is better.

I also been made the Beasley to Melo comparison. Forget about who is better, the way they play basketball on the offensive end is similar. They both have the tools to score from anywhere on the court, the quickness to get by many wing players, and the strength to score on the smaller players. On offense, there is no move they don't have. He dominated college and was the 2nd pick. Don't let his play next to Dwade fool you. He didn't get a real opportunity in Miami. He's just now getting his chance to show what he can do as the #1 option.

Last, but not least, how is Beasley 35 points on 29 shots not good? Is it because he didn't get to the freethrow line? Everyone who watched the game seen he attacked the basket and the refs were stingy all night, as Clyde constantly pointed out. He still shot over 50% from the field. Can someone explain this to me?


Thank you. Its funny how some of these cats think I just pulled the comparison out of my ass. Hes been compared to him numerous times. Melo scored 32 on 14-25 shots against the Lakers. He looked great and they beat the best team in the NBA. Are we going to nitpick about his performance? If you dont make alot of threes or get to the line in a particular game then your PPS isnt going to be that good, but how can anyone be saying 50%+ from the field is bad? It was the WAY Beasley scored that prompted me to make the comparison again. He had a great arsenal of moves and no matter who we put on him he scored one on one. His mid range game was wet and was exactly what we needed down the stretch. He just looked like Melo on offense.

The reason I got on Chandler for his PPS was because I thought he was scoring in the same ways as last season. No real skill moves and some of his shots were bad shots that luckily went in. Chandler was only shooting 45% too the first 3 games (42% now) and he faded in every game in crunch time, unlike Beasley did last night. Thats the biggest difference. Beasley played like an offensive go to guy when they needed it the most.

Again people take a chill will pill. Im not saying Beasley is Melo, but if you didnt think he looked like Melo last night then you must be blind because that was a mirror image. Lets see if he keeps it up because he is the number one option now.
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Re: Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It? 

Post#35 » by knicks9784 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:24 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:Who else thought this guy looked great tonight? His mid range game was Melo-esque out there. I mean its not crazy to think he could reach that level. The dude was the number 2 pick and dominated in his lone year in college. He was compared to Melo alot coming out too. SuperCool seems to be finding his groove now and I gotta say I was impressed. Gallo and even Chandler were no match for him on D. He was creating at will. The Wolves getting him for scraps could be one of the best pickups in recent memory if he pans out.



sure he can, if the wolves can schedule the knicks for 82 games every season
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Post#36 » by PrecociousNeoph » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:27 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:Who else thought this guy looked great tonight? His mid range game was Melo-esque out there. I mean its not crazy to think he could reach that level. The dude was the number 2 pick and dominated in his lone year in college. He was compared to Melo alot coming out too. SuperCool seems to be finding his groove now and I gotta say I was impressed. Gallo and even Chandler were no match for him on D. He was creating at will. The Wolves getting him for scraps could be one of the best pickups in recent memory if he pans out.


...really? players still getting their breakout games or career highs against bad knicks teams impresses you?
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Post#37 » by Quentin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:36 pm

Wow. You really can't make up some of the posts in this thread. Are these real responses?

35 points on 29 shots is not good? 42 points on 31 shots...not good? Beasley is shooting 48% this year...that's not good either from a SF?

Oh and Melo? What has Melo ever won? I hope he's not the next Melo. I'd actually like to see him turn into a player that helps his team win...like he did last night you sorry arse Knick fans. Get a flecking grip on reality for a change. Maybe canceling your subscriptions to the NY Post would be a good start.

EDIT: Kobe's last 2 games:
28 shots 33 points
32 shots 34 points

Yeah, he sucks too. :lol:
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Post#38 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:36 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:Who else thought this guy looked great tonight? His mid range game was Melo-esque out there. I mean its not crazy to think he could reach that level. The dude was the number 2 pick and dominated in his lone year in college. He was compared to Melo alot coming out too. SuperCool seems to be finding his groove now and I gotta say I was impressed. Gallo and even Chandler were no match for him on D. He was creating at will. The Wolves getting him for scraps could be one of the best pickups in recent memory if he pans out.


...really? players still getting their breakout games or career highs against bad knicks teams impresses you?


Yup. Look it wasnt like Love who was just dominating the glass against our small ball lineup. Beasley was schooling whoever we put on him one on one and just wetting Js in our faces. It didnt matter he was playing against us because the way he was playing not many players could have stopped him. Chandler is a perfect match up to defend him and Beasley took him to school. Dont get me started on Gallo.

Hey I know it was a bad Knick loss but give credit where its due. Beasley is balling. Back to back 42 and 34 pt games. Sure they were against the Kings and Knicks, but again if Gallo or Chandler had games like those we would be putting them in the HOF. This is a former number two pick who arguably had the better stats in his lone year in college than Rose. He was never given the keys in Miami with Wade dominating the ball. Now that hes THE MAN in Minny hes doing some nice things. Dont hate brotha!

Yes though I will reserve judgement until he does it against some good teams and keeps winning, but for a 21 year old he looked good out there no matter what.
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Post#39 » by nyknicks2k2 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:42 pm

Can't believe people are trying to downplay this to such a major extent. I'm not a Beas fan and his hair looks (Please Use More Appropriate Word) (I know, random) but it was a very very good game for him. Back to back games actually. I would agree that comparing to Melo may be a bit to much (at least for now) but it's obvious that he has some potential there. Moving to a team that would give him freedom is huge for him. Not just because he gets to shoot more often but because it allows him to see what works for him as a top option and gives him a huge confidence boost when games like this happens. It was a needed move.
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Post#40 » by Swish4 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:03 pm

He didn't get to the line alot because his shots were falling. It's not like he can't go to the hole. He shot 55%.

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