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Ideas to rebuild 

Post#1 » by Alex_De_Large » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:45 pm

Alex_De_Large wrote:http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5731875 Magic gets even better, with a starting sg and sf. We add a first round pick from Magic
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5731870 Knicks give a young prospect in Randolph but win Ming.
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5731877 Pacers contend for the playoffs. Collison, Brooks, Rush, Granger, Scola, Miller.. they may be giving a very good young player in return but add 2 big white guys who are always welcome in Indiana.

Rockets team:

Lowry/Ford (Exp)
Lee/Carter(Exp)
Budinger/Azubuike(Exp)
Randolph/Anderson/Patterson
Hibbert/Hayes(Exp)

Expirings of E.Curry, Carter, Ford, Jeffries, Hayes, Azubike and Foster will release 56 millions next summer.

Only players in contract:
A. Randolph
Hibbert
R. Anderson
Patterson
Budinger
Lee

And Lowry who will be the only player with a non-rookie contract, but the salary is not that high, at 5.7 millions.
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Re: Ideas to rebuild 

Post#2 » by MaxRider » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:50 pm

which free agent(s) are you targeting in the off-season? Carmelo Anthony?

i would not do any stupid trade unless it's expired contracts in 2012
that's right 2012 is the next superstar free agent year
you got Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard
all have player option to opt out in 2012
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Post#3 » by Alex_De_Large » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:53 pm

I heard Tracy McGrady might me available....

just kidding.

I don't really know, but idea is to start spending in 2/3 years .

A lineup based on Lowry, Lee, Bud, Hibbert and Randolph is pretty good, imagine if we draft a future superstar SF or SG.
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Post#4 » by M4P » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:04 am

You expect Scola to be the starting C for the Knicks? Really?

You're also putting too much faith in landing a future "superstar". What do you really think the chances of landing a "superstar" are?
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#5 » by MaxRider » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:18 am

M4P wrote:You expect Scola to be the starting C for the Knicks? Really?

You're also putting too much faith in landing a future "superstar". What do you really think the chances of landing a "superstar" are?

we drafted 3 potential superstars in 7 years
steve francis
yao ming
rudy gay
so about 1 in 2 years
chance is not bad
just need to keep him healthy and with the team
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Post#6 » by Alex_De_Large » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:30 pm

M4P wrote:You expect Scola to be the starting C for the Knicks? Really?

You're also putting too much faith in landing a future "superstar". What do you really think the chances of landing a "superstar" are?


Scola to Pacers and Yao to Knicks.

If you have a top5 pick for the next 2 years, the chances are big, not a superstar like Durant but atleast a Westbrook or Hibbert.
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Post#7 » by Alex_De_Large » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:28 am

Damn, i doubt Pacers want to trade Hibbert after watching him play and i think they really love him. But the value i consider in my dream trade scenario was pretty pretty pretty good, Scola-Brooks-Miller...
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Post#8 » by M4P » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:22 am

Alex_De_Large wrote:
M4P wrote:You expect Scola to be the starting C for the Knicks? Really?

You're also putting too much faith in landing a future "superstar". What do you really think the chances of landing a "superstar" are?


Scola to Pacers and Yao to Knicks.

If you have a top5 pick for the next 2 years, the chances are big, not a superstar like Durant but atleast a Westbrook or Hibbert.
A Westbrook or Hibbert is barely an improvement over Brooks and what we have now. You're getting too trigger happy and placing way too much faith in the draft.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#9 » by Alex_De_Large » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:52 pm

What else what we have? with this current team we are not going to be contenders. And it doesnt look like there are even rumors about something via trade.
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Post#10 » by inquisitive » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:43 pm

Looks like the Rox can forget about getting Kevin Love after his performance last nite.
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Post#11 » by M4P » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:27 pm

Alex_De_Large wrote:What else what we have? with this current team we are not going to be contenders. And it doesnt look like there are even rumors about something via trade.

You're asking for change, and then randomly propose some lopsided deal so that the Rockets can be setback into years of suckage just so that we could tank for a mediocre, mid-tier prospect like Hibbert or Westbrook. Do you not see the flaw in that? You think we'll get anywhere with Hibbert as our top prospect?
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#12 » by aznkillabeezZz » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:39 pm

Eric Bledsoe looks good for the Clippers. He can run the floor real well, can score, steal, very quick and is a steal for 18th or 19th pick. Considering, Patterson is in the d league, Bledsoe wouldve been a terrific 3rd PG. He is nba ready too.
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Post#13 » by MaxRider » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:47 pm

aznkillabeezZz wrote:Eric Bledsoe looks good for the Clippers. He can run the floor real well, can score, steal, very quick and is a steal for 18th or 19th pick. Considering, Patterson is in the d league, Bledsoe wouldve been a terrific 3rd PG. He is nba ready too.

freaking hell i wanted morey to trade down to draft him
he can play just overshadowed by john wall
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Post#14 » by Alex_De_Large » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:08 pm

And we`ll get somewhere with an injured franchise player and Kevin Martin as the star of the team?
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Post#15 » by M4P » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:54 pm

Alex_De_Large wrote:And we`ll get somewhere with an injured franchise player and Kevin Martin as the star of the team?

Yeah, at least we have flexibility and we won't have to endure another season of suckage. I'm starting to doubt that you actually want the Rockets to succeed. Do you like watching seasons like the Nets or Kings of last year?

Also you still haven't answered my post. You're just avoiding it with questions of your own. With a Hibbert like prospect, all we'll end up with is where we are now. Do you want Morey to end up tanking, just so that he can end up with where we are now in a couple of years? Tanking for a Westbrook or Hibbert like prospect won't guarantee a championship no matter how you spin it.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#16 » by Alex_De_Large » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:22 pm

Because you have room for improvement having 2 or 3 guys like Westbrook or Hibbert, they are young and talented and can become something special with the years. In the other hand we know Scola, Martin and Yao will not improve.
Teams like Kings (for example) made some bad trades etc. in last years but they finally have the player iam talking about, Tyreke Evans can be something very special, definitely a player to build around.

Anyway, let´s see how it goes from now to the allstar break, if Rockets have a positive record in the break will be ok.
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Post#17 » by M4P » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:20 am

Alex_De_Large wrote:Because you have room for improvement having 2 or 3 guys like Westbrook or Hibbert, they are young and talented and can become something special with the years. In the other hand we know Scola, Martin and Yao will not improve.
Teams like Kings (for example) made some bad trades etc. in last years but they finally have the player iam talking about, Tyreke Evans can be something very special, definitely a player to build around.

Anyway, let´s see how it goes from now to the allstar break, if Rockets have a positive record in the break will be ok.

So with a Hibbert like prospect we'll still be stuck in mediocrity. You do realize that Scola has improved in every season he's been with the Rockets, right? And also, you do realize that Yao is expiring, right? I think it's obvious that we need to improve via trades, but you're asking us to blow it up just so that we can luck out in the draft. Do you not understand how flawed that idea is? Those trades that you proposed are also unfair from the other team's perspective. You expect Indy or NY to give us Hibbert for that crap package? Stop being trigger happy and just watch how the season plays out.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous

jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#18 » by pr0wler » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:56 am

Rockets are looking good now...we have 3 of our rotational guys injured and still pull out a nice win. If we can sneak into the playoffs and have Yao for ~30 mins a night we're going to be a very dangerous team.
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Re: Ideas to rebuild 

Post#19 » by MaxRider » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:16 am

pr0wler wrote:Rockets are looking good now...we have 3 of our rotational guys injured and still pull out a nice win. If we can sneak into the playoffs and have Yao for ~30 mins a night we're going to be a very dangerous team.

that's because we are playing bad team
let see what happen in the next 2 games

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