Gentry: Turk Off The Bench?

[lilfishi22]

Really? I've watched every game so far this season except for the Kings and the last Memphis game and I never saw any of that. If you saw anything to the contrary then I believe it could be Gentry telling Nash not to turn Hedo into a spot up shooter. All Hedo has done so far is stand out at the 3 and wait for the shot to come to him.

Also when I'm talking about making himself more available, I mean not just camping out in the perimeter. I want him demanding the ball and breaking down his man to create plays.

[Reverse_Angle]

Really? I've watched every game so far this season except for the Kings and the last Memphis game and I never saw any of that. If you saw anything to the contrary then I believe it could be Gentry telling Nash not to turn Hedo into a spot up shooter. All Hedo has done so far is stand out at the 3 and wait for the shot to come to him.

Also when I'm talking about making himself more available, I mean not just camping out in the perimeter. I want him demanding the ball and breaking down his man to create plays.

I watched every single game including the preseason. I did not pay special attention to Hedo until the Kings game any more than a regular fan. Up until 2-3 games ago, Gentry wanted that set. The basic offense of Suns has been Nash penetrating and Hedo rotating to the spot where Nash emptied. That is exactly what you would expect from the secondary playmaker, he has to be behind the perimeter. That is how it works whether you play 4 or 2. The problem with that set, Nash should be passing ball to Hedo if he could not be able to create for others or himself. But Nash has been choosing to force the possession almost every single time.

As far as Hedo demanding the ball goes, it is not realistic or productive. He has to know his place in this team with Nash being the general and he does. I am sure Nash will come around. I suspect he has been under the influence of his Canadian friends and the ugly break-up between Hedo and the Raptors.

Hedo should have shut up during the off-season. Instead he acted borderline professional at best. As I said, Nash will come around. Hedo is a personable guy and the fans usually like him. I distinctly remember him as a fan favorite during his the Kings days and he did get a standing ovation in Orlando whenever he went to Amway Arena.

[airReacker]

We will never see the Orlando Hedo, since Nash is focusing to make JRich as this year's star. Nash always made some players much better than what they are (diaw, amare, etc.). Hedo had the lowest ball usage rate in the team in his first 7 games. That means Nash and his teammates does not trust him enough to let him shoot. Nash trusts JRich, and let him shoot 30 times in one game. He justifiably also trusts Hill, Childress and himself more.

Either he was not brought in to be the second - third option (he is now 5th - 6th), or the Raptors paid huge amount of cash to Suns management behind the doors to have them take his contract.

Hedo will not have a chance to play SF in this team while there is JRich, Hill, Dudley, and Childress, all of which are asking for more minutes already. They need to trade 2 of these guys for a center. RoLo is the weakest link in the team.

I completely agree with you Rinaldi. It is obvious that Nash, as the general of the team, seems to have already made up his mind about who gets what on the team. And let me tell you this straight Hedo is not getting anything from Nash! Period. To me, Hedo must get used to the idea of reduced minutes, role, attention, media coverage. Not to mention fan support and love! He has enough global hate from Australia to Canada!

But my point is that one cannot deliver on a team that does not embrace you as a player. There was a game where Hedo did not touch the ball for 7 minutes straight! And he was running, moving, and wide open many times during that stretch.Nash has his own favorites, and righteously so. I am not judging Nash, as this is his team. But one must also empathize with Turk that he won't fit in and play well DESPITE Nash! Hedo's shooting was almost back but he was not fed by Nash and the scoring did not continue. I have seen most of Sun's game and I am convinced that Nash wants Warrick. Period. He does not want Hedo period. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Hedo's career is over. Read the below quote and you will see my point.

"I've got to be more aggressive," Warrick said. "In Memphis the last game, the rebound was bouncing, and I thought Steve was going to get it. We were going back and forth. He got it, and I ran. He said, 'I was trying to let you get that rebound to get your stats up. I just have to make a conscious effort to go and get every rebound."

"I'm not surprised, because I've been watching and seeing Steve spoon-feeding guys," Warrick said. "Knowing I was coming here, I couldn't wait to get spoon-fed. It makes my job so much easier. If you think you're open, you know he's going to find you."

To read the full article:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... rrick.html


Wow, the guy is giving up his own stats to help Warrick's stats go up. What an altruism! I am impressed. And Warrick must be ecstatic because he is getting too much Steve Nash love!

Please don't tell me that Warrick is a better player, this, that, etc. All irrelevant. Hedo was the wrong move for the Suns. And perhaps that has also been the idea lingering in the locker room. BUT, that was not Hedo's fault, right? He even gave up money to get out of Canadian Hell! But he obviously did not make his calculations right! He went from Canada to a Canadian Colony run by a Canadian superstar. What were you thinking Turk! How stupid. He is not very smart off the court, as he chose to leave Orlando, where he was liked, wanted, and valued. He used to be one of the generals on and off the court. Now he is gradually eroding. Deservedly so.

Now the only thing that Hedo can do is to wait and hope that Nash will change his mind about him. Because if Nash wants Hedo to start and flourish and become visible on the stat sheets he can and will do it. Read the quote of Warrick above! Nash could have also been feeding Hedo and helping him be a part of the guns! But he has chosen no to. I would like to reiterate that I am not blaming Nash for his decisions. He is the general. rather, I am presenting you a different angle. This is true for all the teams. Do you think Bosh will survive in Miami despite James and Wade? NO! Do you believe that any player on the Lakers team will be able to see significant minutes despite Bryant? Of course, no! Same logic here.

This is hell of a quote which is solid form of my thoughts. I think esp the bold bold part is so true, however just not sure for italic part yet. I'm still at somewhere btw "While Gentry is giving complete freedom to Nash in order to let him discover other players excels and win as much game as for a late playoff seat team before chances disappeared, Nash is naturally picking his old habits (JRich and Amare Light) to make it happen cuz his instinct is telling him he should do like this." and " Nash&Gentry duo let Hedo just focus on his defensive goals against powerful forwards and not let his offense drain his all time struggle: energy level. When they find a true PF before trade deadline they will shift him to SF and let him facilitate like Nash and this team will be contender for the title". See, I'm still trying to be optimistic about the situation. What else we can do other than think positive huh.

[Reverse_Angle]

If Hedo does not get the ball around perimeter to either shoot, drive or create; he is as useful as Seth Green with a cone hat that spells scapegoat. Simple as that.

[Krush32]

Only trade option I see is Jrich for a bigman if a trade was gonna happen. Jchill/Duds/Ghill are locked up and Hill is not going anywhere. Hedo's value is low and not gonna get anything. Right now Jrich is putting up good #'s and has some value. Childress/Dudley/ and Dragic deserve more minutes and this would open up some minutes. Gotta give up something to get something.

Krush32: Hey your signature is nice and all, but it don't make sense. Frye making it rain? He has not made it rain all season. It's kind of like me making a signature of Gallagher or Sinbad that says 'Best Comedians Ever.' Simply not true.

I made that Sig last season.

Thx



I havent really posted since the playoffs so maybe the sig will give him more confidence. I say he hits 4 three pointers against the lakers.

[B-Ball-IQ]

If Hedo does not get the ball around perimeter to either shoot, drive or create; he is as useful as Seth Green with a cone hat that spells scapegoat. Simple as that.

AMEN. End of discussion!

[B-Ball-IQ]

If Hedo does not get the ball around perimeter to either shoot, drive or create; he is as useful as Seth Green with a cone hat that spells scapegoat. Simple as that.

This is exactly what happened against the Lakers tonight! Hedo connected from behind the arc 5-7 and dished 5 assists. Nash may be coming around and liking him, who knows! I hope that they will continue to involve Hedo and use him help the team win (as well as justify his payroll!). No matter what, I really like the W tonight. It was big. This game shows that the secret formula for THIS team to win is:
1) shoot the ball well,
2) move and share the ball well,
3) take care of the ball well (12 TO as opposed to 18-19 per game before this game).

Rebounding deficit will definitely not kill the Suns provided they do all of the above well!

[TheMan44]

If Hedo does not get the ball around perimeter to either shoot, drive or create; he is as useful as Seth Green with a cone hat that spells scapegoat. Simple as that.

This is exactly what happened against the Lakers tonight! Hedo connected from behind the arc 5-7 and dished 5 assists. Nash may be coming around and liking him, who knows! I hope that they will continue to involve Hedo and use him help the team win (as well as justify his payroll!). No matter what, I really like the W tonight. It was big. This game shows that the secret formula for THIS team to win is:
1) shoot the ball well,
2) move and share the ball well,
3) take care of the ball well (12 TO as opposed to 18-19 per game before this game).

Rebounding deficit will definitely not kill the Suns provided they do all of the above well!

well that's a no brainer.

you make a franchise record 22 three pointers of course u gonna win.

surprised they only won by a few points. Scary to think u make franchise record three pointers and don't even win by double digits............and franchise record numbers only come once in a blue moon.

u telling me Suns have to make franchise numbers to win each game? if that is true, Suns are screwed! The reason u need good rebounding is so you don't have to rely on setting franchise records as they are very hard to do (e.g. making 22 three pointers). It is a lot easier to rebound the ball each night instead of trying to make 22 threes. This is why Suns are in deep trouble and need rebounding ASAP esp with Robin out for a while now..........!

[Reverse_Angle]

Says the guy starting Nocioni in his dream team.

[TheMan44]

Says the guy starting Nocioni in his dream team.

Nocioni is the greatest basketball player in the history of the NBA.

[Reverse_Angle]

I am the pope

[TheMan44]

I am the pope

hi, Pope.