Uggla traded to the Braves for...not much.

[Kapono]

Buster_ESPN
Heard this: Two rival executives cast Toronto as the favorite to land Dan Uggla, assuming the Marlins follow through on trade talks.

http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN

[rarefind]

don't know what to think of this, uggla will soon be 31 and doesn't fit the focus on the long term future. i understand he hits pretty good for average, and his power is also a good fit but i'd be hesitant on such a deal if we are giving up anything with much value.

not sure if aa sees an opprutunity to contend next year with getting greinke, manram and uggla. but i wouldn't exactly go about pawning off the future just in attempts of contending sooner rather than later. first came the beltre rumours, now this? i'd rather move bautista to 3rd before giving up value for uggla.

edit: wow, all this jpa talk screwed up my brain.

[baulderdash77]

He would be the fit at 3B for us. If we can get him for prospects not including Drabek, then it would be amazing.

Multiple allstar, .285/.370/.500 guys who are locks for 30 HR's don't grow on trees. He's not a really great defender, but he's a legit middle of the order guy.

The thing is that he just turned down 4 years/48 million on Friday. He's a cornerstone kind of guy, not a 1 year rental IMO.

[WpgPage]

don't know what to think of this, uggla will soon be 31 and doesn't fit the focus on the long term future. i understand he hits pretty good for average, and his power is also a good fit but i'd be hesitant on such a deal if we are giving up anything with much value.

not sure if jp sees an opprutunity to contend next year with getting greinke, manram and uggla. but i wouldn't exactly go about pawning off the future just in attempts of contending sooner rather than later. first came the beltre rumours, now this? i'd rather move bautista to 3rd before giving up value for uggla.

JP??? haha guessing you mean AA, Uggla looks like a very good fit to me as long as he is ok moving to 3B it was reported on MLBTR that hes looking for 5 years and 58 million which is actually very reasonable. He probably wont his quite as well in the AL but .275/.350/.465 is definitely doable


I posted in the possible 3B thread a deal that looks something like
Marcum/ Accardo / Jimenez
For
Uggla (not extended) Nunez

[OldNo7]

He may be turning 31, but he would be a "young 31", in that he only has 5 seasons in the majors. He is also very durable, with 154+ games in 4/5 seasons. Lowest HR total = 27. Lowest RBI total = 88. He is a threat to strikeout once a game though, but over 75 walks in each of the last three seasons.

If the price is right, I dont mind the deal at all. Him or Hill switching to 3B is fine with me.

[Raps in 4]

Uggla is a beast. If we don't end up breaking the bank for him then I definitely won't mind seeing him come here.

[Michael Bradley]

I like the idea of adding Uggla and putting him at 3B, but where are the Jays going to get the money to sign him long-term into his mid-30's? I don't think the Jays are at that stage yet. Unless they plan to get him, use him at 3B for a year, and then let him go for picks afterwards. Or maybe get Uggla and trade Hill (who makes $31 million over four years if his options are picked up).

Will be interesting to see what direction AA goes here. It is hot stove season, so all the Greinke, Uggla, etc, talk could be (and probably is) just hot stove fodder, but who knows.

[KPJR]

don't know what to think of this, uggla will soon be 31 and doesn't fit the focus on the long term future. i understand he hits pretty good for average, and his power is also a good fit but i'd be hesitant on such a deal if we are giving up anything with much value.

not sure if jp sees an opprutunity to contend next year with getting greinke, manram and uggla. but i wouldn't exactly go about pawning off the future just in attempts of contending sooner rather than later. first came the beltre rumours, now this? i'd rather move bautista to 3rd before giving up value for uggla.

bautista is the same age as uggla...vernon is gonna be 34...

baseball isnt basketball...they can play till their 40

[trellaine201]

I think Uggla doesn't want to play 3B as was reported last year. Not to say he wouldn't switch but my bet is Hill would move to 3B as he mentioned he doesn't mind moving.

[rapsfan1231]

Uggla dosen't really make sense for the jays right now..Cause i'm not sure jays should be giving him the
kind of contract he wants likely 5+ years and more than say 55 million.. not a great use of money and giving up prospects to get him here..

But if AA feels like we can compete next couple of years then i say take a chance on him, he's got a ton is power that we need and he probably could also play first base for us too.

[rarefind]

well aware of the age baseball players play until, but this is not the move you make until you are ready to contend imo. no point in paying a premium with our youth until a piece like uggla is what is needed to put us over that hump. uggla will need a contract which will be roughly over 5 years at 50 million dollars. this move only makes a bit of sense if aa moves hill as part of the deal. with adeiny probably about 2 years away, filling in uggla at 3rd (if he even agrees to play there).

vernon wells is 34 and his productivity has dwindled since his contract, bautista's adjustments have made him a legit player despite his age. by no means is 31 the twilight of a player's career. but if we are trading prospects, it would be nice to get a guy a bit younger. trade for youth with a chance of star potential (see cameron maybin trade) and sign guys like uggla outright instead. if it IS marcum, accardo and jimezez even jpa to get him you obviously do it in a heartbeat, however you must believe it'd take drabek also.

the point is that uggla is a great player, but this kind of move is premature in nature as this team is not ready to be a true contender. uggla also is a career .263 hitter, he may be closer to that in the AL than the .287 he hit last year.

[Randle McMurphy]

Uggla is a very good offensive player that would probably do even better in the confines of the Dome. It would surprise me to see them give him an extension, though.

[KPJR]

does he have 1 year left on his deal? you think AA is pulling a billy beane when he got matt holiday and flipped at the deadline the next year? sure the A's trade didn't work out for them as they were giving away more in the end. I think this is a good idea.

[LBJSeizedMyID]

Don't think you have to break the bank for Uggla. Considering what the Marlins let Maybin go for, I would think Uggla would fetch a couple low minor league prospects, or deal involving Marc Rzepczynski.

[Rhettmatic]

He has more in his column today, but it's Insider. Here's a summary:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?nam ... id=5808227

-- Says AA loves home-run hitters, which obviously includes Uggla
-- Uggla is viewed by scouts as one of the worst second basemen in the majors, strikes out a lot, but hits homers consistently
-- Rival execs say Jays should be viewed as favourites, can deal from their extraordinary pitching depth
-- Braves, BoSox and Tigers could also be good fits
-- If the Jays get him, they could trade Aaron Hill or move Uggla to third, where he'll commit lots of errors but produce
-- Scout says his problem is throwing, and would have problems throwing to second base for double plays
-- Scout loves Uggla, says he wants to win, he's a better hitter than he used to be, while another disagrees and says his offence doesn't make up for his defence
-- Jays have the widest range of pitching prospects in the majors to facilitate a deal
-- Says AA might sign Uggla to an extension, but notes that AA loves picks, so he could also just keep Uggla into next summer, then make a decision on whether to trade him or keep him for the pennant race and get draft picks when he signs elsewhere

[s e n s i]

yo thanks Rhett

[KPJR]

i would move aaron hill to 3b if we can get a speedy 2b basemen that can hit for good average...we already got our big boppers...we need some GODDAMN SPEED

[rarefind]

You guys just don't get it. Uggla's bat is terrific, but I'd expect a bit of regression in the AL. His HR numbers may increase due to playing 81 games at the Rogers Center but we are overlooking something very important.

His defense is horrible, Uggla at third will make EE look like a yearly gold glove winner. (if the award actually had merit to begin with.) The truth is Uggla great offensive numbers will mainly just offset what he does defensively. We COULD play him at first, but you'd assume there would be better options there anyway.

If we can buy low here, I suppose it is worth a shot. But I don't think he will be worth what he is asking for. Rzep and Mills should be as far as we are willing to go here, I retract my Marcum scenario after looking at Uggla's horrible numbers and scouting reports about his defense. Uggla is so bad defensively I'd rather see ManRam in the outfield and JoBau at third.(quote me on that)

[Rhettmatic]

Apparently the Marlins aren't asking for much. From Buster Olney's Twitter feed:

Other clubs perceive the Marlins are absolutely intent on moving Uggla ASAP, and they are not asking for a high rate of return -- a couple of decent guys, no A-plus prospects necessary. They know Uggla's salary and impending free agency precludes them from getting the top-of-the-line prospects.

[The Flying Gent]

Well that probably has a lot to do with my AA is so in on this.

Good god, can he manage to steal away Uggla for nothing?