The HOF class of 2013...whose in whose out

VinnyTheMick · Post #1 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:37 am

Favre, Strahan, Sapp, McNair, Ogden and Larry Allen. Those are the players who retired this offseason. Factor in players in past years and not everyone is a lock. So some may be "snubbed". It will be very interesting. Out of the 6 mentioned who is the most questionable 1st ballot HOFer. I would have to say Air McNair.

Thoughts?

randomhero423 · Post #2 » by **randomhero423** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:06 am

mcnair's out. all the rest are defintely in.

Post #3 » by **studcrackers** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:53 am

i'll be annoyed if mcnair makes the hall

1st ballot guys - favre, strahan, allen

will make it - sapp (i doubt he'll get in 1st ballot for whatever reason) and ogden

El Turco · Post #4 » by **El Turco** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:42 am

Favre s locker should be in the 1st ballot.

Post #5 » by **Da Schwab** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:56 pm

I was watching Mike & Mike this morning, and they were talking about this topic, except with Junior Seau in place of McNair.

I would put in Favre, Stray, Allen, Seau and Ogden. Its really hard to leave Sapp out, though. He was the best DT of the 90s, and may be the best all-around DT of the last 25 years.

A.J. · Post #6 » by **A.J.** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:33 pm

Sapp is out for th 1st ballot.

Post #7 » by **Icness** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:43 pm

I would put Favre and Strahan as first ballot HOFers. Ogden and Sapp can both wait a year or two.

Larry Allen is a toughie because guards generally don't get that kind of recognition. Look at Bruce Matthews, the best offensive linemen of my lifetime--he had to wait a year. And some other recent retirees might cloud the picture: Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Tony Boselli. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but it isn't insignificant.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #8 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:07 pm

Icness wrote:
Larry Allen is a toughie because guards generally don't get that kind of recognition. Look at Bruce Matthews, the best offensive linemen of my lifetime--he had to wait a year. And some other recent retirees might cloud the picture: Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Tony Boselli. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but it isn't insignificant.

Not only do I disagreee with the Bruce Matthews thing, I also dont think the other recent retirees have as big an effect on Allen. Those are definitely qualified guys and have outstanding merits, but Larry was a notch above the rest for a couple reasons. One being his versatility along the line when needed, he's the only one with a ring (and the others didnt even come close), and most importantly he blocked for the all-time rushing leader for the majority of time it took to get those yards).

Boselli I'm not sure is a HOFer. Yes he made the 90's all decade team, but he played basically 6 seasons. (his 7th season he played in only 3 games)

travis minor · Post #9 » by **travis minor** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:37 pm

VinnyTheMick wrote:Farve, Strahan, Sapp, McNair, Ogden and Larry Allen. Those are the players who retired this offseason. Factor in players in past years and not everyone is a lock. So some may be "snubbed". It will be very interesting. Out of the 6 mentioned who is the most questionable 1st ballot HOFer. I would have to say Air McNair.

Thoughts?

Favre*

VinnyTheMick · Post #10 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:34 am

Icness wrote:Tony Boselli.

Injuries killed his HOF chances in my opinion.

Cevap · Post #11 » by **Cevap** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:18 am

I'd put Ogden before Strahan.