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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#21 » by Twolves98 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:06 pm

I actually mentioned getting Thompson this past weekend but didn't know for what maybe something like.

Utah pick + Koufos for Thompson

Utah + Memphis + Pekovic for Thompson plus future 1st

I really don't know what the asking prices and I don't think the second one will happen but the first one would be a fair price.
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Post#22 » by Foye » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:12 pm

Theo Ratliff
Chris Andersen
Joel Anthony
Samuel Dalembert
Serge Ibaka
Roy Hibbert

Amir Johnson
Marcin Gortat
Greg Oden
Kendrick Perkins

Louis Amundson
Andrew Bynum
Brendan Haywood
Etan Thomas
Erick Dampier
Dan Gadzuric
Emeka Okafor

The Maybe pile:
Ronny Turiaf
Hasheem Thabeet
JaVale McGee
Joel Przybilla
DeAndre Jordan
Robin Lopez
Kyrylo Fesenko
Brandan Wright

Those are the guys that would interest me. Most of them are probably not available or you need to throw a lot of money at them in free agency (or they have already been paid).
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Post#23 » by Klomp » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:21 pm

Heres a name to throw out there....Tyson Chandler.

Long, blocks shots, plays defense, doesn't require shots, can catch lobs from Rubio.

Dallas already has Haywood signed longterm, so I'd be surprised if Chandler gets a big deal from them.

(In 2K, just traded Darko and Gains for Tyson and The Custodian)
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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#24 » by UK-Wolf » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:25 pm

Klomp wrote:Heres a name to throw out there....Tyson Chandler.

Long, blocks shots, plays defense, doesn't require shots, can catch lobs from Rubio.

Dallas already has Haywood signed longterm, so I'd be surprised if Chandler gets a big deal from them.

(In 2K, just traded Darko and Gains for Tyson and The Custodian)

I'd love Chandler, slowed down the last few seasons through injury but had a really good season so far. Isn't he on big bucks though?
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Post#25 » by Foye » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:37 pm

Klomp wrote:Heres a name to throw out there....Tyson Chandler.

Long, blocks shots, plays defense, doesn't require shots, can catch lobs from Rubio.

Dallas already has Haywood signed longterm, so I'd be surprised if Chandler gets a big deal from them.

(In 2K, just traded Darko and Gains for Tyson and The Custodian)


I dunno. He's got some injury concerns and I do think Dallas will resign him for a fairly large amount of money if he continues to play well. Cuban always spends his money.
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Post#26 » by Klomp » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:13 pm

UK-Wolf wrote:I'd love Chandler, slowed down the last few seasons through injury but had a really good season so far. Isn't he on big bucks though?


He's making roughly 12 million this year, but is expiring.

Foye wrote:I dunno. He's got some injury concerns and I do think Dallas will resign him for a fairly large amount of money if he continues to play well. Cuban always spends his money.


But to be a backup, will they really pay that much? They are an older team, and their title window is closing, so I'm not sure even Cuban would sign him under that situation. (BTW, hes behind Haywood, who signed a 6 yr, 55 million dollar contract this offseason.

Remember, he was also a #2 pick, to go along with the Wolves' theme of lotto reclamations.
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Post#27 » by shangrila » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:13 pm

AQuintus wrote:If a 17 year old Andrew Bynum could do it, I don't see why these two couldn't. We would just have to use Love as the mid post set up guy and have Jordan or Whiteside playing on the backside of the Triangle picking up missed shots and getting easy dunks.

I guess, although I wouldn't count Bynum's 46 game, less then 10mpg first season as "doing it". I worry that it's not that easy either. I don't know if it still happens, but I remember early in the season people were complaining about the lack of flow in the offence whenever Darko went out. If that's still a problem, getting someone who can actually pass and do similar things might be better.

I don't see that as a problem. Darko will still be getting 20-25 mpg and Peks will still be getting 10-15. That leaves another 10-15 for the 3rd guy, which is about the same mpg that Jordan's getting now.

I guess.

He might be better overall but not in the things we need him to be better in. He's not a better athlete, he's not a better defender/ shot blocker, and he's not a better Center.

He's not a freak athlete no, but he can block shots and he runs the floor better then most centres in the league. I get that he's not a real centre but he can at least play it and might be a bit of a matchup problem offensively.

And looking at 82games, he doesn't do too bad at centre. You have to go to the year before to get a better sample size but I don't think he'd be the same as playing Love at centre, for example.

As for the multiple positions thing, we already have Love, Tolliver, and Beasley eating up all of the PF minutes, and we have Darko able to potentially play spot minutes there as well. We really don't need to have anyone play anywhere but at the C spot.

The team likes multiple position types of guys and Thompson can allow Rambis to go bigger in certain situations. I just thought that was something that the team would value, as it was something they talked about over and over all summer.

Valid argument, but at the same time, there's a reason that a skilled 6'11" guy is available for cheap, he's just not very good. DX listed his best case at draft time as Mark Blount. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really not interested in another Marky Mark.

Come on, are you really going to go to his pre-draft comparison? By that logic Morrison is still the next Bird and Stevenson the next Jordan.

Just by looking at his stats you can tell he's a better player. He rebounds a hell of a lot better, for instance, grabbing more rebounds in his first two seasons then Blount ever did in one (his best season was 7.2rpg in 03-04, Thompson has beaten them both so far) and it's just obvious that he's not the same dumb as a brick, jump shooting loser that we had all those years ago.

For the record, I know he's not the answer to all of our problems or even a long term answer, at least right now. But his combination of skills, fit on paper and current low trade value make too much sense not to at least try him out for a season.
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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#28 » by AQuintus » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:37 pm

shangrila wrote:Come on, are you really going to go to his pre-draft comparison? By that logic Morrison is still the next Bird and Stevenson the next Jordan.


:D Not the best argument I've ever used, sure, but at least I used DX's comparisons instead of draft.net's.

Just by looking at his stats you can tell he's a better player. He rebounds a hell of a lot better, for instance, grabbing more rebounds in his first two seasons then Blount ever did in one (his best season was 7.2rpg in 03-04, Thompson has beaten them both so far) and it's just obvious that he's not the same dumb as a brick, jump shooting loser that we had all those years ago.


The point is that, like Blount, Thompson isn't a great athlete, isn't a good defender, and plays soft.

For the record, I know he's not the answer to all of our problems or even a long term answer, at least right now. But his combination of skills, fit on paper and current low trade value make too much sense not to at least try him out for a season.


If we can get him for cheap (straight up for Ellington, for example), I'd be all for it, but for a mid-first, I think that we could do better.
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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#29 » by nate5023 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:07 am

No, all he has is offense. we don't need that. especially at the 4
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Post#30 » by shangrila » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:54 am

AQuintus wrote:
shangrila wrote:Come on, are you really going to go to his pre-draft comparison? By that logic Morrison is still the next Bird and Stevenson the next Jordan.


:D Not the best argument I've ever used, sure, but at least I used DX's comparisons instead of draft.net's.

haha true, but draftexpress has no comparison for Stevenson (or even a picture) and a shorter Dirk Nowitzki for Morrison. The sad thing is that Morrison's worst case, a post prime Glenn Robinson, has become his best case.

The point is that, like Blount, Thompson isn't a great athlete, isn't a good defender, and plays soft.

I think he's a better athlete then Blount ever was and isn't as lazy either, but I guess that's just something that comes down to personal opinion.

I think we can at least both agree that if he can be had for cheap he's worth taking a look at, although I guess I'm more willing to give up one of those later 1sts to do it.
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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#31 » by horaceworthy » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:01 am

I'd rather keep the later 1st than deal for Thompson. I'd rather they use it as a chip in a bigger deal, or just keep it and roll the dice on a prospect.
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Re: Jason Thompson 

Post#32 » by southern wolf » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:06 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page ... rade-winds

It wasn't long ago that Thompson, selected with the No. 12 overall pick in the 2008 draft, and Spencer Hawes were being touted as the Kings' frontcourt tandem of the future.

Now?

Thompson is averaging just 15.4 minutes per game off the bench and has been shopped by the Kings, who according to one source with knowledge of the talks offered the 6-11, 250-pounder to Atlanta in a deal featuring young point guard Jeff Teague. The Hawks declined.


So they're obviously looking for a point guard. I don't think the Kings would have any interest in Telfair, but it could be worth a shot. I wouldn't want to give up much more in terms of value for JT.

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