Kings biggest need and Teague

[DKKing]

In light of the report that the Kings looked to move Thompson to the Hawks for Teague, it gives me a more acute idea of what Petrie thinks this team's biggest need is. Point Guard. Specifically, a young, quick, PG that can play defense and shoot the 3 ball. That's how I view Jeff Teague. And I think there are some other PG's that might fit that description as well. I think that's what the Kings lack, and the defense being so porous has more to do with Beno's lack of lateral quickness trying to guard speedsters in the PG position than anything else. Shoring up that spot defensive, will go a long way in alleviating the defensive porosity we see.

So make a list what PG could the Kings target using Thompson and other minimal assets like cap space, 2nd rounders, Wright, Head, Greene, etc.

Jarrett Jack
Aaron Brooks
Goran Dragic
DJ Augustin
Avery Bradley

Are a few that come to mind off the top of my head.

[khoffman3113]

The Kings aren't getting Aaron Brooks for that kinda combo in a deal. Plus Brooks is out for 4-6 weeks. Going after Avery Bradley wouldn't be a bad idea, he has yet to be healthy tho.

[DKKing]

The Kings aren't getting Aaron Brooks for that kinda combo in a deal. Plus Brooks is out for 4-6 weeks. Going after Avery Bradley wouldn't be a bad idea, he has yet to be healthy tho.

Never said they were. I was just targeting players that fit that decription. I think Brooks could, though, be a target in Free Agency this summer.

[Blkbrd671]

The kings should have inquired about jordan crawford or xavier henry

[longfellow44]

Avery Bradley
Eric Bledsoe
Randy Foye
JJ reddick
Augustine
Rodrigue Beaubois
Dragic
Eric Maynor

[RoyalCourtJestr]

Avery Bradley
Eric Bledsoe
Randy Foye
JJ reddick
Augustine
Rodrigue Beaubois
Dragic
Eric Maynor

The only one on that list that screams at me "consistant starter who can fit next to Tyreke" is Dragic. I'd LOVE to get him, he'd be 100% the answer next to Tyreke. Maybe Bradley, I do like him. Rest, I don't know if they would be worth the cost.

[SacKingZZZ]

I think one thing many are overlooking is the fact that the Kings would have taken on LESS MONEY if they traded for Teague. Odds of them adding more money in a deal unless it's for a significant upgrade are unlikely. No reason to trade for any "big name" PG either. The kings have a ton of cap space this summer and can afford to wait.

[KF10]

As much I like Beno, the Kings need an upgrade over him. Beno provides everything that most of us wants but his defense this year is dreadful. Last year, he was not this awful. Every game this year, there is someone abusing Beno on this end of the floor. This puts more pressure for Evans guarding the entire backcourt of the opponents.

For me, I think defense is the number one priority in looking for a suitable guard to play with Evans.

[Christine-In-AZ]

You can cross Dragic off the list, unless it's much bigger trade with multiple players involved on both sides.

Right now the Suns only have 4 guards- Nash, JRich, Dragic and Childress. While no player is absolutely untouchable, Dragic is about is close as it gets for the Suns. He's the focus of their future...and providing great PG play even now.

[ICMTM]

I think one thing many are overlooking is the fact that the Kings would have taken on LESS MONEY if they traded for Teague. Odds of them adding more money in a deal unless it's for a significant upgrade are unlikely. No reason to trade for any "big name" PG either. The kings have a ton of cap space this summer and can afford to wait.

The other thing that's over looked is Teague is not available.

[SacKingZZZ]

As much I like Beno, the Kings need an upgrade over him. Beno provides everything that most of us wants but his defense this year is dreadful. Last year, he was not this awful. Every game this year, there is someone abusing Beno on this end of the floor. This puts more pressure for Evans guarding the entire backcourt of the opponents.

For me, I think defense is the number one priority in looking for a suitable guard to play with Evans.

I agree but I don't think the upgrade needs to be overall talent, defense and role play for sure. Beno is actually a very talented player and on a team where the offense focuses around him more or allows him to be a primary ball handler I could easily see him be near an 18 and 7 player.

[SacKingZZZ]

The other thing that's over looked is Teague is not available.

According to Petrie, neither is JT.

[ICMTM]

The other thing that's over looked is Teague is not available.

According to Petrie, neither is JT.

But what does that have to do with Jeff Teague being available, or is it your bias showing again? I've already highlighted that the Hawks are transitioning Jeff to be the next guy in another thread! Bibby is 32, and Teague is getting more playing time as Bibby gets less. Word out of ATL is they are grooming Teague. Why must your Jason Thompson man crush ruin a thread???? I didn't bring him up.

Now let me move on from this ugly love affair that SacKingZZZ has for hating on Jason Thompson and continue....

What happened to Tyreke Evans being the PG? The back court was Tyreke and Kevin, then we had a bunch of people play the 2. Then we ran out of options and Beno played the PG and Reke played the 2. Although those two players looked good we've ABSOLUTELY SUCKED as a team with those guys as our starting back court. Why don't we get back to Tyreke being the 1 and get a 2? It seems like a no brainer to me?

[KM44]

I've been a huge advocate of Avery Bradley for a long time. I REALLY wanted us to trade to Miami at 18 for salary space and take him but OKC beat us to the punch. Bradley is an excellent defender who has plenty of raw potential as a scorer. He was the #1 prospect according to ESPN coming out of high school (above Wall, Cousins, Favors, etc...) We need a combo guard to suit Evans, why not go out and grab a guy like Bradley if we can?

[PaKwAn]

avery bradley
marcus thornton
tony douglas
dj augustine

if im being realistic, those would probably be in the jt trade range with some minor additions...

[SacKingZZZ]

But what does that have to do with Jeff Teague being available, or is it your bias showing again? I've already highlighted that the Hawks are transitioning Jeff to be the next guy in another thread! Bibby is 32, and Teague is getting more playing time as Bibby gets less. Word out of ATL is they are grooming Teague. Why must your Jason Thompson man crush ruin a thread???? I didn't bring him up.

Now let me move on from this ugly love affair that SacKingZZZ has for hating on Jason Thompson and continue....

What happened to Tyreke Evans being the PG? The back court was Tyreke and Kevin, then we had a bunch of people play the 2. Then we ran out of options and Beno played the PG and Reke played the 2. Although those two players looked good we've ABSOLUTELY SUCKED as a team with those guys as our starting back court. Why don't we get back to Tyreke being the 1 and get a 2? It seems like a no brainer to me?

OH...MY...GOD. I really hope you're kidding because if not....

I was simply implying not to believe everything that's written.

BTW, I think you pretty much conclusively proved the point I was trying to make in that other thread, congratulations, you without question showed YOUR true colors. There's a love affair here, and it certainly doesn't involve any hate on my part for JT.

Hey, you know what, maybe you're right, I'll admit it, the only reason JT's on the block is because of ME. Everything I've ever written isn't true at all. JT is the next Bosh, and nobody has any right to criticize his play, and if they are they're nothing more than "haters!". hahahaha.

At least I know next time I converse with you to put on my anti-witch armor because you's on a witchhunt!

As for what happened to Evans. Our offense has looked terrible and the easiest finger to point is the one nearest Tyreke Evans. Might be justified, might not. Time will tell.

[chriswebb86]

Who says this trade was offered recently. There is a good chance this was offered before the start of the season and it is just coming out.

[ICMTM]

But what does that have to do with Jeff Teague being available, or is it your bias showing again? I've already highlighted that the Hawks are transitioning Jeff to be the next guy in another thread! Bibby is 32, and Teague is getting more playing time as Bibby gets less. Word out of ATL is they are grooming Teague. Why must your Jason Thompson man crush ruin a thread???? I didn't bring him up.

Now let me move on from this ugly love affair that SacKingZZZ has for hating on Jason Thompson and continue....

What happened to Tyreke Evans being the PG? The back court was Tyreke and Kevin, then we had a bunch of people play the 2. Then we ran out of options and Beno played the PG and Reke played the 2. Although those two players looked good we've ABSOLUTELY SUCKED as a team with those guys as our starting back court. Why don't we get back to Tyreke being the 1 and get a 2? It seems like a no brainer to me?

OH...MY...GOD. I really hope you're kidding because if not....

I was simply implying not to believe everything that's written.

BTW, I think you pretty much conclusively proved the point I was trying to make in that other thread, congratulations, you without question showed YOUR true colors. There's a love affair here, and it certainly doesn't involve any hate on my part for JT.

Hey, you know what, maybe you're right, I'll admit it, the only reason JT's on the block is because of ME. Everything I've ever written isn't true at all. JT is the next Bosh, and nobody has any right to criticize his play, and if they are they're nothing more than "haters!". hahahaha.

At least I know next time I converse with you to put on my anti-witch armor because you's on a witchhunt!

As for what happened to Evans. Our offense has looked terrible and the easiest finger to point is the one nearest Tyreke Evans. Might be justified, might not. Time will tell.

The only problem with that is my basis for saying Teague wasn't available ONLY considered Jeff Teague's situation with the Hawks. You just fell on your face trying to 1 up somebody.

It’s no secret Teague’s development is key for the Hawks. L.D. wants the Hawks to play offense at a faster pace–Teague is among players who have been running on the track at Georgia Tech, something the Hawks did last summer “but not like this,” he said. L.D. also wants the Hawks to play more straight-up D, and Teague probably is the Hawks guard best able to keep his man in front of him.

Both of L.D.’s goals would seem to be more attainable with Teague playing significantly more than the 10.1 minutes per game he logged in 2009-10. This is Teague’s chance to establish himself with the Hawks and show that he’s at least a bona fide rotation guy, if not a starter, on a good team

He said he understands what’s at stake.

“If you want to play in this league, when you get the opportunity you’ve got to take advantage of it,” Teague said. “I think what gives me an advantage is we have a lot of good players here who are going to help me along the way. We’ve got Bibby, who is a veteran point guard. He has been helping me since Day One. I know he is still going to play, but just to get an opportunity to play [more] is great.”

J.J. said Teague’s teammates have his back.

http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2010/09/17/a ... e-control/

Nov 10 G Jeff Teague was supposed to be ready for a starting job this season. But an ankle injury during the preseason prevented him from going after the job. It wasn't until his 21-minute effort against the Bucks (10 points, six assists) that he started opening eyes again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4624/news

I can go on, but the point here is ATL sees Jeff Teague a part of their long term plans. You missed that point. The statement I made was "Jeff Teague is not available." The Hawks see something in him that they expect him to be a major part of the rotation soon. That's it. Somehow you took it as something else. I didn't imply anything. I said it. Unless there's a can't pass up deal for Teague he's not on the block. The argument stops there.

[SacKingZZZ]

The only problem with that is my basis for saying Teague wasn't available ONLY considered Jeff Teague's situation with the Hawks. You just fell on your face trying to 1 up somebody.

It’s no secret Teague’s development is key for the Hawks. L.D. wants the Hawks to play offense at a faster pace–Teague is among players who have been running on the track at Georgia Tech, something the Hawks did last summer “but not like this,” he said. L.D. also wants the Hawks to play more straight-up D, and Teague probably is the Hawks guard best able to keep his man in front of him.

Both of L.D.’s goals would seem to be more attainable with Teague playing significantly more than the 10.1 minutes per game he logged in 2009-10. This is Teague’s chance to establish himself with the Hawks and show that he’s at least a bona fide rotation guy, if not a starter, on a good team

He said he understands what’s at stake.

“If you want to play in this league, when you get the opportunity you’ve got to take advantage of it,” Teague said. “I think what gives me an advantage is we have a lot of good players here who are going to help me along the way. We’ve got Bibby, who is a veteran point guard. He has been helping me since Day One. I know he is still going to play, but just to get an opportunity to play [more] is great.”

J.J. said Teague’s teammates have his back.

http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2010/09/17/a ... e-control/

Nov 10 G Jeff Teague was supposed to be ready for a starting job this season. But an ankle injury during the preseason prevented him from going after the job. It wasn't until his 21-minute effort against the Bucks (10 points, six assists) that he started opening eyes again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4624/news

I can go on, but the point here is ATL sees Jeff Teague a part of their long term plans. You missed that point. The statement I made was "Jeff Teague is not available." The Hawks see something in him that they expect him to be a major part of the rotation soon. That's it. Somehow you took it as something else. I didn't imply anything. I said it. Unless there's a can't pass up deal for Teague he's not on the block. The argument stops there.

Once again, you never know until it happens and then rest of the time you wait until it does happen. There is no conclusive evidence one way or the other is my point. Like I was saying, according to Petrie Jason Thompson is equally as unattainable. No, somehow you took my comment about potential happenings that NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT and double speak from GM's, players, etc. and blew it up into some kind debate where I apparently "fell on my face". hahaha. C'mon man, you can do better than that, your chance to shine might come one day, just not today.

[SacKingZZZ]

Who says this trade was offered recently. There is a good chance this was offered before the start of the season and it is just coming out.

If this was truly how it went down, I would certainly hope the recent happenings are to blame. Not to knock Teague, was a fan in college, but if JT's value was THIS before the season? Goodness knows what it is now.