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Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST

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Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#1 » by Miller4ever » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:39 am

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VISITING

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THE SKINNY

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The Pacers matched Houston in nearly every category, but didn't shoot well enough to edge them out. The defense gave up many open looks, and Roy Hibbert was absent for the last minutes of the game. The Pacers have given up two close contests at home, and need to find their mojo against the superstar-less Cavaliers.

THE LINEUPS

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Point Guard
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With Darren Collison out with a sprained ankle, TJ Ford needs to step up with AJ Price/Lance Stephenson and fill in the gap.

Shooting Guard
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Mike Dunleavy is looking like the Mike Dunleavy of 07-08, when he was an MIP candidate and the best offensive player on the Pacers. He needs to step up his defensive game against the powerful wing combination of Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams, who are both athletic and good scorers.

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Danny Granger was due for a big game, and he dropped 34 on Cleveland. If the Pacers want to beat the well-balanced Hawks, he's going to have to step up again and be the most respected offensive threat on the court. He will also have to step it up on defense, making life difficult for Marvin Williams and Joe Johnson.

Power Forward
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Josh McRoberts has only managed 8 points in the last 3 games. He started the season out a double-double threat, but without his alley-ooping and fastbreak dunks, McBob looks anemic on offense. Additionally, he is shooting terribly from the line at 28.6%. Josh Smith is the last player on the Hawks who should be given a free pass on defense, especially with his shotblocking ability. If McRoberts can't hit from the field and make Smoove stick to him, then the result is a super-athletic roamer just waiting to help on the weakside.

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The main matchup happens at the center position. Horford has abused Hibbert in the past, and the Hawks have had enjoyed a 6-game winning streak on the Pacers. The cycle needs to end with Hibbert stepping up and taking control against a red-hot Horford, fresh off an All-Star season and starting strong out the gates with 60+% shooting. Hibbert needs to not get sucked into trying to out-athletic Horford, and should play his post game. If the Pacers can establish control in the paint, the rest of the game will follow.

THE BENCH

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Brandon Rush will be called upon to try and defend the potent offensive threats of Williams, Johnson, and Crawford. He must also get more involved in the offense when he's on the floor. It's been nice to see him hustle more for rebounds and putbacks, though. Solo could see a lot of action based on the fact that the Atlanta frontcourt is a handful and could easily pin quick fouls of Hibbert and McRoberts and Hansbrough is out. Jeff Foster may return.

THE COACHES

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For all the criticisms levelled on O'Brien, the Pacers stand at 4-4 and have an average point differential of +1.9. Larry Drew replaced Mike Woodson and had the Hawks off to a blazing start, gathering 6 wins before dropping 3 in a row. They look to get back on track at Conseco Fieldhouse.

THE INJURY REPORT

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Pacers
Darren Collison, Tyler Hansbrough - Ankle: Out
Jeff Foster - Ankle: Maybe

Hawks
None.

THE HEAVY MATTERS

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-Keep the tempo up. The Hawks, despite their athleticism, play at a very slow pace. Take them out of their rhythm by pushing the tempo.
-Contain the frontcourt. Keeping Smith and Horford in check goes a long way in disrupting the Hawks offense.

THE TRADITION

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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#2 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:15 am

Darren hurt?
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#3 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:29 am

Anctious to see if we can run with the Hawks today. But that's after I watch Florida get beat by probably the best team in the nation.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#4 » by Miller4ever » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:31 am

/Darren and Hansbrough are out.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#5 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:33 am

DrunkSkunkFan wrote:Anctious to see if we can run with the Hawks today. But that's after I watch Florida get beat by probably the best team in the nation.


Deshaun Thomas didn't look good in the 1st half. Hopefully he can get it together in the 2nd.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#6 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:05 am

TJ Ford making some great plays. Do we keep him as a backup or this just lucky for us that he's playing so well and now he's trade bait?

Granger is the second coming of Scott Pip
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#7 » by tsherkin » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:21 am

Roy looking good. Could finish better, but the free throws even it out. Nice rebounding, too.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#8 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:40 am

AJ Price = D. League
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#9 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:49 am

I don't think Jim O'Brien realizes James Posey can't defend Josh Smith, because he has stuck with that match up, even tho Josh Smith is killin him.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#10 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:52 am

Posey might can check him on the perimeter but not inside 15 feet
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#11 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:54 am

safe to say we suck w/out Colli and Psycho T
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#12 » by DrunkSkunkFan » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:07 am

safe to say UConn women never lose
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#13 » by writerman » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:09 am

With Smith going off, where's Foster? If he's healthy, he's our best defender at the PF position...

And why does Obie keep playing Solo? He's a zero, 10 points or no...I think we made a big mistake keeping him and letting Rolle go because SJ supposedly can play the five... :roll:
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#14 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:39 am

Another game where Roy Hibbert is the only player on the team with a positive +/-
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#15 » by Miller4ever » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:53 am

writerman wrote:With Smith going off, where's Foster? If he's healthy, he's our best defender at the PF position...

And why does Obie keep playing Solo? He's a zero, 10 points or no...I think we made a big mistake keeping him and letting Rolle go because SJ supposedly can play the five... :roll:


Tyler was injured.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#16 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:55 am

Miller4ever wrote:
writerman wrote:With Smith going off, where's Foster? If he's healthy, he's our best defender at the PF position...

And why does Obie keep playing Solo? He's a zero, 10 points or no...I think we made a big mistake keeping him and letting Rolle go because SJ supposedly can play the five... :roll:


Tyler was injured.


? He was talkin about Jeff?
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#17 » by writerman » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:56 am

Miller4ever wrote:
writerman wrote:With Smith going off, where's Foster? If he's healthy, he's our best defender at the PF position...

And why does Obie keep playing Solo? He's a zero, 10 points or no...I think we made a big mistake keeping him and letting Rolle go because SJ supposedly can play the five... :roll:


Tyler was injured.


OK...but as I asked, why not Foster? He's always played excellent D at the four...Duncan said that he played him better than anyone in the league...he's older now, but he couldn't have done any worse against Smith than McRoberts and Posey...I say it again--Obie's a moron...

anyway, at least this game ought to end that crap that Roy can't play with Horford...even if our idiot coach does have him on the bench in crunch time :crazy:
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#18 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:11 am

OT, but why dont we have a college basketball thread?
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#19 » by azuresou1 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:18 am

You guys have pretty... interesting game threads.
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Re: Game 9: Pacers VS Hawks 11/16/10, 7:00pm EST 

Post#20 » by 8305 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:14 am

Nice to see Hibbert play Horford as tough as he did. I think that's the best he's ever played him. Granger had a good all round game pretty much getting the better of Joe Johnson. But, Smith and Bibby owned us. It would have been interesting to see how we'd have done with Collison and Hansbrough available.

When McRoberts was in the game Smith didn't have to guard anyone and was a defensive menace. When Posey was in the game Smith got whatever he wanted on offense. I'd like to think Hansbrough would have made Smith's night a little more challenging. I liked TJ's effort but a better point guard takes advantage of Bibby's defense. Collison might have.

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