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ok first let me just say (and I know this is irrelevant) but previous years I would watch T-wolves games every now and again without any real expectations. This year I never miss a game and on game days I'm worthless before the game starts, half working (mostly killing time till the game starts). This change in my attitude has everything to do with our new roster.
Anyway With Flynn coming back, Ridnour on the books, and Rubio coming overseas next year. We are gonna have a Pg problem. Probably Rid backs up one of them, but Rubio and Flynn...Rubio sounds like a prima donna and benching Flynn after how good of a soldier he's been would be cold.
With Martell webster coming back we are gonna have a log jam with: ellington, Brewer, Wes, and Beaz all playing on the wins.
then down low: Love, tolliver, Pek and Darko which is fine if Tolliver and Pek don't play much.
But what if we get a high draft pick and get ANOTHER impact player...yikes I know having too much is not something to complain about but I like this core.
I honestly would love to watch this team mature moving forwards, although in the draft a solid 2 man would be our only need (and drafting on need is silly)
Beaz, Love, Darko, are fine, at PG we have plenty of options.
but dang where does a new player even go?
sorry for this rant.
Anyway With Flynn coming back, Ridnour on the books, and Rubio coming overseas next year. We are gonna have a Pg problem. Probably Rid backs up one of them, but Rubio and Flynn...Rubio sounds like a prima donna and benching Flynn after how good of a soldier he's been would be cold.
With Martell webster coming back we are gonna have a log jam with: ellington, Brewer, Wes, and Beaz all playing on the wins.
then down low: Love, tolliver, Pek and Darko which is fine if Tolliver and Pek don't play much.
But what if we get a high draft pick and get ANOTHER impact player...yikes I know having too much is not something to complain about but I like this core.
I honestly would love to watch this team mature moving forwards, although in the draft a solid 2 man would be our only need (and drafting on need is silly)
Beaz, Love, Darko, are fine, at PG we have plenty of options.
but dang where does a new player even go?
sorry for this rant.
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You keep the best of the talent that you have and jettison the rest.
Brewer probably isn't coming back. Some of the others may be packaged with our picks to move up the draft, or to get an established player.
Brewer probably isn't coming back. Some of the others may be packaged with our picks to move up the draft, or to get an established player.
Lattimer wrote:Cracks me up that people still think that Wiggins will be involved in the trade for Love. Wolves are out of their mind if they think they are getting Wiggins for Love.
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funkatron101 wrote:You keep the best of the talent that you have and jettison the rest.
Brewer probably isn't coming back. Some of the others may be packaged with our picks to move up the draft, or to get an established player.
I vote against getting a big man or an SF. But yea of course if a better option comes along you take it.
I like Brewer a lot. Not as a starter but as 20 mpg role player off the bench. He can shoot the 3, provides energy, defense, steals, can finish on the break.
I seriously vote for trading for an established 2 man. Who's available though?
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Telfair, Lazar, and Ellington are the most likely to be gone IMO. We'll likely resign Brewer to a reasonable deal. Keep Flynn and Rubio for sure ... possibly Ridnour. Of course, everything could change with one big trade for a star player...
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Well first off....having a logjam is not a problem. It simply means we have depth. Second....every contract we have looks incredibly easy to move except for Darko. Elly has been garbage thus far...I definitly don't see him back next season. Brewer is having a chance to audition to stay. If he plays to full potential, he probably will get a better offer than we'll give him anyhow. The only two wings I can bet on being here next year are Wes, Martell, and Beasley. I see a bigger problem...I mean logjam at the PG spot. Right now, Telfair is a better PG than Luke.....will it last? I have no clue, but that's going to force our front office to really think. If Telly is brought back....which wouldn't bother me a bit....either Luke or Jonny or potentially both will have to be dealt. All three guys here this year have to work their tale off if they want to stay here. Luke needs to stay healthy....Jonny needs to progress...and Telly has to sustain. No way to all three accomplish those things...whoever is left standing at the end of the season, stays.
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I think Lazar will be a keeper. He doesn't get much time now but he's on a very cheap rookie contract.
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I don't view having "too much" talent as being a problem. You simply give the starting job to the best player, give the backup minutes to the next best, and as funkatron said, jettison the rest.
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collin_k41 wrote:I don't view having "too much" talent as being a problem. You simply give the starting job to the best player, give the backup minutes to the next best, and as funkatron said, jettison the rest.
Yeah. That's really a luxury problem to have. Just remember two or three years ago when our roster was Al Jefferson and a bunch of relatively untalented role players.
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ok so slightly new question:
what star players should we be looking at? Who would be a good fit for us.
I'm not a huge OJ mayo fan.
I think Wilson Chandler is underrated, but obviously wouldn't be our major acquisition.
what star players should we be looking at? Who would be a good fit for us.
I'm not a huge OJ mayo fan.
I think Wilson Chandler is underrated, but obviously wouldn't be our major acquisition.
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teven_1 wrote:ok so slightly new question:
what star players should we be looking at? Who would be a good fit for us.
I'm not a huge OJ mayo fan.
I think Wilson Chandler is underrated, but obviously wouldn't be our major acquisition.
I like Wilson Chandler but he isn't a big enough upgrade over Webster and Brewer to justify trading away much value for him.
I don't really think we need a star player. With Beasley, Love, Wesley, Flynn(or Rubio) we got a nice group of young guys who should be very competitive in the future.
I'm not totally against exploring options to trade for a star but our young guys have shown promise. Basketball is a team game. I don't think you need a superstar to win it all. The Pistons made it all without a superstar. Not to mention that there's still the possibility that one of our young guys emerges as a stud. Beasley is on a good patch right now.
If you've got 10-12 quality guys who will do anything for your team on any given night it may be worth more than having a superstar.
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I've been worrying the same thing, particularly about the draft. What happens if the team somehow gets Barnes? Do they run with a 4 wing rotation of Barnes, Beasley, Webster and Johnson? Will those guys be happy with that? How about Jones? Can you justify cutting into Love's minutes for him? And the point guard battle is the worst. Who do we keep out of Flynn and Ridnour? The veteran presence or the clearly better player in Flynn? Way too many questions with this team.
But if I had to guess, I'd say Telfair and Brewer at the very least are gone. Telfair will probably be shipped to a contender by the deadline for whatever and Brewer, I get the feeling with him that some team will pay more then we're willing to pay him for our 4th wing, which won't matter much because there looks like there will be some guys that can replace him in the draft, like Honeycutt, Leonard, Singleton, Hamilton, Taylor, etc. I also think Koufos will be moved because I expect the team will go after an athletic centre to groom as the eventual replacement for Darko. I wouldn't be surprised if Ellington gets moved either, to be honest.
But if I had to guess, I'd say Telfair and Brewer at the very least are gone. Telfair will probably be shipped to a contender by the deadline for whatever and Brewer, I get the feeling with him that some team will pay more then we're willing to pay him for our 4th wing, which won't matter much because there looks like there will be some guys that can replace him in the draft, like Honeycutt, Leonard, Singleton, Hamilton, Taylor, etc. I also think Koufos will be moved because I expect the team will go after an athletic centre to groom as the eventual replacement for Darko. I wouldn't be surprised if Ellington gets moved either, to be honest.
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RFA and UFA Centers off the top of my head. Not sure if any re-signed.
Marc Gasol
Greg Oden
Tyson Chandler
Sam Dalembert
Ronny Turiaf
The only SG that is on my radar in a trade is Iggy.
But keep in mind, the Wolves have a lot of assets, and anything could happen. We could very well pull a move similar to Boston landing Allen and KG if we are aggressive enough.
Marc Gasol
Greg Oden
Tyson Chandler
Sam Dalembert
Ronny Turiaf
The only SG that is on my radar in a trade is Iggy.
But keep in mind, the Wolves have a lot of assets, and anything could happen. We could very well pull a move similar to Boston landing Allen and KG if we are aggressive enough.
Lattimer wrote:Cracks me up that people still think that Wiggins will be involved in the trade for Love. Wolves are out of their mind if they think they are getting Wiggins for Love.
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shangrila wrote:I've been worrying the same thing, particularly about the draft. What happens if the team somehow gets Barnes? Do they run with a 4 wing rotation of Barnes, Beasley, Webster and Johnson? Will those guys be happy with that? How about Jones? Can you justify cutting into Love's minutes for him? And the point guard battle is the worst. Who do we keep out of Flynn and Ridnour? The veteran presence or the clearly better player in Flynn? Way too many questions with this team.
But if I had to guess, I'd say Telfair and Brewer at the very least are gone. Telfair will probably be shipped to a contender by the deadline for whatever and Brewer, I get the feeling with him that some team will pay more then we're willing to pay him for our 4th wing, which won't matter much because there looks like there will be some guys that can replace him in the draft, like Honeycutt, Leonard, Singleton, Hamilton, Taylor, etc. I also think Koufos will be moved because I expect the team will go after an athletic centre to groom as the eventual replacement for Darko. I wouldn't be surprised if Ellington gets moved either, to be honest.
To me, it didn't make much sense that they picked that Koufos option up to begin with.

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funkatron101 wrote:RFA and UFA Centers off the top of my head. Not sure if any re-signed.
Marc Gasol
Greg Oden
Tyson Chandler
Sam Dalembert
Ronny Turiaf
The only SG that is on my radar in a trade is Iggy.
But keep in mind, the Wolves have a lot of assets, and anything could happen. We could very well pull a move similar to Boston landing Allen and KG if we are aggressive enough.
I still think we got fooled there. KG for Al Jefferson and a bunch of scrubs. None of those guys other than Al J. were great prospects. By the time Boston had dealt their 5th pick for Ray Allen we should've just ignored Boston's calls. KG was a top 3 player in the league at that time. He was worth at least that #5 pick AND Al Jefferson. And we didn't even get Rondo back. LMAO. They fooled McHale big time there knowing his heart is still a shamrock.

I'm so glad that guy is not our GM anymore.
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shangrila wrote: Way too many questions with this team.
Because it's way too early to be having this discussion.
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digitaldropoff wrote:Well first off....having a logjam is not a problem. It simply means we have depth. Second....every contract we have looks incredibly easy to move except for Darko. Elly has been garbage thus far...I definitly don't see him back next season. Brewer is having a chance to audition to stay. If he plays to full potential, he probably will get a better offer than we'll give him anyhow. The only two wings I can bet on being here next year are Wes, Martell, and Beasley. I see a bigger problem...I mean logjam at the PG spot. Right now, Telfair is a better PG than Luke.....will it last? I have no clue, but that's going to force our front office to really think. If Telly is brought back....which wouldn't bother me a bit....either Luke or Jonny or potentially both will have to be dealt. All three guys here this year have to work their tale off if they want to stay here. Luke needs to stay healthy....Jonny needs to progress...and Telly has to sustain. No way to all three accomplish those things...whoever is left standing at the end of the season, stays.
Don't be fooled by Tellys game so far. He's a solid PG but he makes some poor decisions out there.
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funkatron101 wrote:RFA and UFA Centers off the top of my head. Not sure if any re-signed.
Marc Gasol
Greg Oden
Tyson Chandler
Sam Dalembert
Ronny Turiaf
The only SG that is on my radar in a trade is Iggy.
But keep in mind, the Wolves have a lot of assets, and anything could happen. We could very well pull a move similar to Boston landing Allen and KG if we are aggressive enough.
I take Darko over all those centers any day of the week (ok except for Marc Gasol, although if we trade for Marc that's twice Marc will have screwed Darko out of minutes) I haven't really watched Marc though his numbers are solid but so what? can he defend? that's all that matters.
All those other centers got nothing on Darko they are all injury prone, even more offensively inept and really only can block shots, while Darko can do much more.
I like Darko for this team he passes well, is tall and plays good D. I'm happy with Darko moving forwards.
IGGY would be the best addition for us.
Think about it, Iggy is brewer x 1,000. Beasley would be the A1 wing scorer (people always say Iggy is a second banana) He'd get to just D up perimeter guys.
seriously Igoudala is the perfect addition for our team
Seriously, Igoudala on this team tomorrow.
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C.lupus wrote:shangrila wrote: Way too many questions with this team.
Because it's way too early to be having this discussion.
True, but in past years you could always tell what the team could add even this early in the season. More offence, more defence, an upgrade at a certain position, etc. This year we're just stacked and when you try to think about what they might do in the future...well, it's hard.
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While I struggle saying we're "stacked", I do like everyone on the squad. We just need to have everyone continue to progress together.
Guys I like on this roster in their role:
C -Darko/Pekovic
PF - Love/Tolliver
SF - Beasley/Webster/Brewer
SG - Johnson/Webster/Ellington
PG - Rubio/Flynn/Ridnour
I like Brewer and Ellington, but if we're able to combined them with the earlier mentioned pieces to bring back something, I'm fine with it. It's just a matter of figuring out what that something is that we need. This thought process is making me think I turned into a homer. Or maybe I don't care about winning anymore. I just love their smiles.
Guys I like on this roster in their role:
C -Darko/Pekovic
PF - Love/Tolliver
SF - Beasley/Webster/Brewer
SG - Johnson/Webster/Ellington
PG - Rubio/Flynn/Ridnour
I like Brewer and Ellington, but if we're able to combined them with the earlier mentioned pieces to bring back something, I'm fine with it. It's just a matter of figuring out what that something is that we need. This thought process is making me think I turned into a homer. Or maybe I don't care about winning anymore. I just love their smiles.
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I liked Ellington last year before he thought he was a playmaker. His early struggles could have been a result of our quick pace though. Hopefulyl tonight our new, slower pace settles him down a bi like it has the rest of the team.
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