Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It?

TKF · Post #81 » by **TKF** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:02 am

TKF, how is Beasley "thuggy?" (Btw, what does "thuggy" mean?)

The guy smoke weed. Big f-ing deal. Bill Walton would also smoke a lot of weed when he played for Portland. He said it helped him relax after games ... and he is right. Beasley hasn't hurt anybody. He doesn't go around toting a gun (as far as we know). He hasn't been accused of beating women. He's not an assaultive individual. So, WTF is you beef with him?

There are two separate incidents involving marijuana:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Be ... urt_issues

Off court issues

On September 3, 2008, at the NBA's Rookie Transition Program, Beasley was involved in an incident along with fellow rookies Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur. Police responded to the hotel room of Chalmers and Arthur following a fire alarm at 2 a.m. and claimed that the room smelled strongly of burning marijuana, but none was found and no charges were filed. Chalmers and Arthur were excused from the camp[ because of the incident and were later fined $20,000 each for missing the rookie camp, but were not fined or suspended for any drug-related violations. Both later denied any involvement with marijuana. Originally, ESPN reported that Beasley was also present in the room, but was not asked to leave camp. The story was later updated and any mention of Beasley was removed from the article.

On September 18, 2008, Beasley was fined $50,000 by the league for his involvement in the incident after Pat Riley forced him to confess to league officials that he had slipped out the door when the police arrived.

On August 24, 2009, Beasley reportedly checked into a Houston rehab center, just days after he posted pictures of himself to Twitter with what some have speculated to be marijuana in the background.

I never said he was "thuggy" just quoting that phrase from True Warrior...
(And I also don't know what that mean as well)

Honestly, I don't think he is a thug... I just think he is a bozo and mental midget... that's all..

maybe that will change... I would who knows.. I, personally would not bet on it with him... not to the extent where we can start comparing him to guys like carmelo...

TheBluest · Post #82 » by **TheBluest** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:07 am

Beasley 10-16 tonight 25pts...not a bad TS%...lol Love got put in check tonight only going for 22pts/17reb

Wigginstime · Post #83 » by **Wigginstime** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:38 am

A lot of people have been trying to compare the mentality between Melo and Beasley. I think this is a terrible comparison. Although they have had similar off court incidents, their on court personality and mentality couldn't be any farther apart.

Melo has always been an aggressive never back down type of personality on the basketball court. He is the type of player who goes at you hard all night long and demands the ball when the game is on the line in the final seconds.

I have always though of Beasley to be more of a JR Smith type of basketball personality. One night he will look amazing and unstoppable. Another night he is giving a lackluster effort and making stupid careless mistakes. I am still quite skeptical about the ability of Beasley to play a significant role on a playoff caliber team.

funkatron101 · Post #84 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:35 pm

Beasley is emerging as a leader so far. Which was the best thing Wolves fans could hope for.

I was very skeptical of getting him, but the price was a no-brainer. He has been nothing but positive since he arrived. Whether it is an act or not, he appears to like being in Minnesota.

MIP contention.

Justdatdude · Post #85 » by **Justdatdude** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:53 pm

Wigginstime wrote:A lot of people have been trying to compare the mentality between Melo and Beasley. I think this is a terrible comparison. Although they have had similar off court incidents, their on court personality and mentality couldn't be any farther apart.

Melo has always been an aggressive never back down type of personality on the basketball court. He is the type of player who goes at you hard all night long and demands the ball when the game is on the line in the final seconds.

I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between Melo and Beasley mentally, after reading what you just wrote. Beasley doesn't back down from any challenge. If he gets the ball, he's looking to go at you. In the 4th quarter, he is demanding the ball. I guess its going to take some winning for people to see this, but the dislike for the kid is unbelievable. He is finally getting his chance and he's playing extremely well given the opportunity. His leadership is also something that shouldn't be overlooked. Just watch the way he act on the court, communicating with others, talking on defense, and giving a lot of effort, including on the defensive end.

Don't let what you hear about a player mislead you into believing what type of player that guy is. Watch them for yourself and come up with your own opinion. Don't piggyback off of someone else.

nykballa2k4 · Post #86 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:03 pm

Mello has more skill imo, better scorer/shooter. Beas we shall see. Mello had issues, but not work ethic, then again, he was not held to Pat Riley standards.

Beas > Bosh

funkatron101 · Post #87 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:14 pm

I don't think Beas ever had "work ethic" issues. Hasn't it always been rumored that he's always one of the first to come, last to leave at practice?

Chosen01 · Post #88 » by **Chosen01** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:10 pm

Beasley was already said to be a Carmelo/Amare mold coming out of college anyways, he just didn't have a chance to really show it in Miami due to Spoelstra's man love for Haslem.

People think Beasley is some serial killer, when all he did was smoke pot which I;m sure 90% of basketball players do. HE has work ethic, Spoelstra says hes usually the last person to leave the gym

#1 pick · Post #89 » by **#1 pick** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:32 pm

Dime on Beas:
http://dimemag.com/2010/11/michael-beas ... the-world/

Chosen01 · Post #90 » by **Chosen01** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:49 am

Hes showing the clutch aspect of Melo so far.

Post #91 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:53 am

If I was given away at a firesale price and the only team to step up for me was the Wolves Id have a chip on my shoulder as well.

Zeitgeister · Post #92 » by **Zeitgeister** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:48 am

Manhattan Project wrote:If I was given away at a firesale price and the only team to step up for me was the Wolves Id have a chip on my shoulder as well.

KAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

devv83 · Post #93 » by **devv83** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:49 am

Beasley always said he modeled his game after Melo. I'm glad to see the kid doing good, as a Melo fan I had to always hear people talking crap about him being a thug and this and that. Fact is people make mistakes they grow up and mature. Melo didnt grow up til about 23 24 but its easy to overlook maturity when you avg 29 a game at 22 lol but Beasley is only 21 so good for him.

boomann21 · Post #94 » by **boomann21** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:56 am

Once they get Rubio to suit up they will have a exciting squad.

Marty McFly · Post #95 » by **Marty McFly** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:58 am

TheBluest wrote:
magnumt wrote:
And Gallo had 21 at the half.

Using your logic, Beasley did a WORSE job on Gallo, than Gallo did on Beasley. And the aforementioned foul trouble that Gallo got Beasley in as well further backs that.

But yeah...

--Mags

P.S. What amazes me about you Bluest is that you'll ride and complain about our Youth, yet want everyone else's. Even when it's equal or worse to ours (cough...Earl Clark...cough).

Beasley did not do a good job covering Gallo 1rst half...if this is what you're looking for. I 100% totally agree. Gallo did himself no favors by making it easy on him second half settling for bad shot selection. Gallo could have done more damage and scored 25+ if he/we played a smarter 2nd half. All I'm saying is offensively Beasley gave both our players fits and I won't minimize what he did offensively....but defensively he wasn't good. I also got on Love's first half performance which was bad.

I'm not advocating acquiring Beasley(never have really). He's not as bad as some make him out to be that's all. Nothing more nothing less. I even said I don't think he or Love were as good as they were yesterday.... but good players nonetheless.

from what i recall he really did'nt get the ball all that much in the second half. i think he shot the ball 14 times in the 1st half and he ended up with 17 shots overall.

funkatron101 · Post #96 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:55 am

Beas is averaging 32.6 ppg over the last five games.

TheBluest · Post #97 » by **TheBluest** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:59 am

funkatron101 wrote:Beas is averaging 32.6 ppg over the last five games.

He's a killer right now...he's becoming a clutch player too

Gordon is averaging 30ppg over his last 3gms along with Rose and WestBrook tearing it up too

Punk · Post #98 » by **Punk** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:06 am

And how many people laughed when I say he was the next Melo? :lol:

Game winning shot exactly the same dribble drive pull up shot Melo is known for. He's not a scrub people. That's what happens when you play in Miami, you are held back.

boomann21 wrote:Once they get Rubio to suit up they will have a exciting squad.

-Rubio
-Johnson (still untapped potential)
-Beasley (established star for the franchise)
-Love (established star for the franchise)
-Webster (best sixth man you can find)
-Darko (Rubio could make him better)
-Flynn (potential star even if Rubio doesnt come)
-Pekovic (a potential Gasol type player)

Prediction: 2 years the Wolves will be a legit playoff team with that team and the Nuggets will rebuild again like the Wolves did.

Justdatdude · Post #99 » by **Justdatdude** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:06 am

Justdatdude wrote:Mark my words, if given the opportunity he will put up at least 20 ppg on this team, on good percentages, and on a much better record than the team had in the past year. If he gets the chance to be the man, this team will win at least 30 games with him averaging 20 points a game.

That was on October 4th.

TheBluest wrote:
funkatron101 wrote:Beas is averaging 32.6 ppg over the last five games.

He's a killer right now...he's becoming a clutch player too

Gordon is averaging 30ppg over his last 3gms along with Rose and WestBrook tearing it up too

Westbrook and Rose are going to be elite point guards, if for nothing but their athletic ability. They're stronger and faster than every point guard out there, so they always have an advantage. Westbrook with a jumper will be deadly. I always liked Gordon's game and I like how his height doesn't stop him from being a solid defender. I don't know why his team can never win, with all of that talent on their team. Top to bottom, they have one of the most talented teams in the league.

Justdatdude · Post #100 » by **Justdatdude** » Tue Jan 4, 2011 6:06 am

I still believe they're going to get to 30 or at the least 25 wins as their schedule gets easier.

"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him," Rivers said before his Celtics beat the Timberwolves 96-93 on Monday night. "I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He just knows how to score the ball. He has a Carmelo ability to score the ball."

35 games into the season. What do people think about Beasley now?