Stephen Curry's defense is a serious problem

crzy · Post #1 » by **crzy** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:08 am

Every single game someone else is abusing him.

Rodney Stuckey, Eric Gordon...

Leaving Gallinari in crunch time for wide open threes was inexusable :nonono:

St.Nick · Post #2 » by **St.Nick** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:11 am

He sucked in the first half covering Felton.

Monta sucked in the second half covering Felton.

Those wide open 3's were due to ball movement after Felton was able to penetrate to the hoop and get the ball moving. So really it was Monta's fault for letting his man penetrate.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #3 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:29 am

Biedrins was overplaying the help defense and going outside the three point line on the pick. Felton had an open lane and drove to the basket.

Curry can either let him get the easy layup or play help defense and make Felton shoot a difficult shot or make the pass. Felton was making difficult shots and the Knicks were finishing off his passes.

This isn't Ellis or Currys fault, it all goes back to the poor help defense off the picks.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #4 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:32 am

Also, once you see Stoudemire gets position on a guy like Adrien you need to play help defense and keep Amare from getting the ball. I would much rather see Gallinari try and make a play than see Stoudemire shoot the ball three feet from the basket. If you can't deny the entry pass than at least double team him, he's not a good passer.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #5 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:35 am

Felton and Amare combined for 23-29 shooting... pathetic.

Coxy · Post #6 » by **Coxy** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:01 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Felton and Amare combined for 23-29 shooting... pathetic.

Coxy · Post #7 » by **Coxy** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:08 am

Steph's D is horrendous. It really is.

RunMCR · Post #8 » by **RunMCR** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:36 am

It was terrible..Reach reach reach, too slow even for felton. It was atrocious. Monta was reaching a lot too

old rem · Post #9 » by **old rem** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:07 pm

RunMCR wrote:It was terrible..Reach reach reach, too slow even for felton. It was atrocious. Monta was reaching a lot too

Felton is quick. However, NY was basically doing a SF at SG which creates some issues fror Curry to D,and the GSW "Team D" looks like a bunch of individuals who are not used to playing as a unit and are trying to do a system that at best is a bit ineffective and hard to execute well.

Having Vlad and or Gadz to defend the paint...... :lol:

Curry will be adequate once a half dozen other problems on D get fixed...but there is NO quick fix.

Flash Falcon X · Post #10 » by **Flash Falcon X** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:54 pm

It seems like the whole team plays decent defense when David Lee is healthy.

Hopefully he gets back soon, as well as Amundson, Wright and Udoh.

If we get those four back we won't have to worry about Vladimir and Gadzuric playing that much anymore; they got abused by Amare last night.

F*ckin Warriors, always getting injured.

turk3d · Post #11 » by **turk3d** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:09 pm

Curry's the major problem as far as our defense is concerned. He's consistently being torched by whoever it is he's guarding. He's incapble of playing any of the bigger 2s out there thus forcing Monta to have to guard the 2 but then he's unable to guard the quicker 1s which consistently blow by him. This screws up the entire defense since must constantly try and somehow make up for his defensive deficiensies.

As a result, they have to play off their men (this especially effects Monta) which is causing them to get beat and look bad themselves. Smart needs to devise a defensive scheme to compensate for Curry's ineptitude (he's needs for offense and to inistiate plays and we don't have an adequate replacement. Because of his insistence on playing Vlad Rad at the PF position (thus leaving AB as the only true help defender) he needs to stop having AB out there chasing guards because all this does is put him out of position to defend under the basket whenever Curry's man (or other) blows by him.

Curry definitely is the weakest link on D (not to say that anyone else is that great inclduing Lee when he's playing) and until we get back Lee (or find a real PF who can help Andris defend the paint) Smart needs to come up with another defensive scheme in a hurry and stop playing games with Vlad Rad who's strictly there to provide offense.

One of the problems with Telfair was that when Curry allows these guys to go off and they get hot, theere' no one who's going to stop them at that point (see Jennings last year). Youj can't let a guy get hot like that and expect someone else to come in and shut them down. Plus, after you move Monta onto Telfair then who's Curry expected to guard? Fiedls (a beast) or Wilson Chandler?

This is why you see guys looking like they don't know what to do. No matter who Curry guards, that's who the opposition is going to attack with. I'm not saying that we should bench the guy (he's too valuable offensively) but hjust find a way to compensate for him. Smart ios supposed to be a defensive coach. Starting Vlad Rad definitely is not the solution.

BTW the Center chasing guard strategy is p/of the NRE.

Frank Mulely · Post #12 » by **Frank Mulely** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:49 pm

this just plays into his "poor mans steve nash" image :lol:

AI Impact · Post #13 » by **AI Impact** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:13 pm

We should trade Curry and get a star. Curry and Brandan Wright plus picks for Carmello Anthony sounds good.

Ellis
Anthony
Wright
Lee
Biedrins

That is a playoff lineup.

ILOVEIT · Post #14 » by **ILOVEIT** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:26 pm

AI Impact wrote:We should trade Curry and get a star. Curry and Brandan Wright plus picks for Carmello Anthony sounds good.

Ellis
Anthony
Wright
Lee
Biedrins

That is a playoff lineup.

Man...talk about a turn around on value. Now Curry is the guy to trade and Monta is an all star!

Curry is really bad righ now defensively..but I think that has something to do with fatigue. He looks tired all around....Last year he was actually pretty decent in staying in front of his man. This year he is just constantly reaching...trailing....And once that poitn guard get's in the paint....the entired defense breaks down.

But also remember folks...when you have very little resistance in the paint and the other team is getting offensive rebounds...it tires the entire defense.

David Lee makes the Warriors a very good defensive rebounding team. Which means it's normally one and done for the opposition.

ILOVEIT · Post #15 » by **ILOVEIT** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:27 pm

AI Impact wrote:We should trade Curry and get a star. Curry and Brandan Wright plus picks for Carmello Anthony sounds good.

Ellis
Anthony
Wright
Lee
Biedrins

That is a playoff lineup.

I DO love that lineup..

RunMCR · Post #16 » by **RunMCR** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:36 pm

Anthony can't play SG, Monta can't play PG..I'd only trade Curry for Paul if he's available.

Chris Cohan · Post #17 » by **Chris Cohan** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:45 pm

What defense?

AI Impact · Post #18 » by **AI Impact** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:21 pm

RunMCR wrote:Anthony can't play SG, Monta can't play PG..I'd only trade Curry for Paul if he's available.

It is pretty easy to adjust the lineup with Wright backing up Anthony at SG and having Reggie Williams rain it in the SG starting position.

RunMCR · Post #19 » by **RunMCR** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:58 pm

AI Impact wrote:
RunMCR wrote:Anthony can't play SG, Monta can't play PG..I'd only trade Curry for Paul if he's available.

It is pretty easy to adjust the lineup with Wright backing up Anthony at SG and having Reggie Williams rain it in the SG starting position.

meh Melo is not somebody I'd like on this team..We already have a great iso scorer. Paul would be perfect for this team.

Monta and Lee would FLOURISH with Paul running things. Monta would probably average close to 30 on over 50% FG shooting and Lee would be back at 20.

Chris Cohan · Post #20 » by **Chris Cohan** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:09 pm

Nash would be fine.