Grant Hill

[SUNNNNY]

Anyone else thinking about a JRich for Murphy swap? Nets need scoring, we need a rebounding big. So far he hasn't done much for them. Maybe we could coerce them into giving us a draft pick or young player out of it too. Not the best defender in the world though.

troy murphy is a better rebounding channing frye. that being said, j rich is looking pretty expendable the past few games. we could move grant to the sg spot and we would probably have the tallest starting lineup in the league and still be mobile.

[lilfishi22]

While I agree JRich is streaky, trading him for Murphy means we lose JRich's scoring, which is pretty important considering outside of Nash only he is capable of putting together strings of high scoring (20-25pts) games. Murphy will help alleviate our rebounding problems but then we lose our go-to scorer.

[pidi]

That's the training staff for ya.

wtf - what for balls, amazing...

[pidi]

While I agree JRich is streaky, trading him for Murphy means we lose JRich's scoring, which is pretty important considering outside of Nash only he is capable of putting together strings of high scoring (20-25pts) games. Murphy will help alleviate our rebounding problems but then we lose our go-to scorer.

but i mean even bell turned into something like a scorer besides nash. so why shouldn´t jchil didn´t do it - or start dragic at the sg and let hedo take over if both are on the bench

[lilfishi22]

But Bell isn't a scorer, he isn't a guy that we rely on offensively. We relied on his 3PT shooting to spread the floor and play defense but not as a scorer. JChill isn't a scorer either. He's a 4th or 3rd option at best because scoring is not what he does naturally. Hedo is a guy you could rely to give you 15-18 pts but the way he's playing, I wouldn't count on it.

JRich is the only guy outside of Nash that could really be a scorer. He's been a scorer his entire career and had even been the number 1 option (on some crappy teams).

[DRK]

We need to feed the ball o J-Rich more. Let him create shots off the dribble. J-Rich is better than you think at taking it to the basket. We need to make J-Rich our number one scoring options, just as he was in GSW and Charlotte.

Jason Richardson has been very succesful as a number one go-to guy. During the Warrior's We'believe era, Jason Richardson led the Warriors to their first playoff campaign in 13 years. During that season (2007/08) J-Rich avergaed 22 PPG, and 6 RPG as their number one Go-To guy. During their playoff series, J-Rich averaged 19 PPG and 7RPG.

I believe that we need to make Jason Richardson that Jason Richardson he was back on Golden State, where he would make exciting plays like these.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZeLmcfdY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoEJ8qwdxeA[/youtube]

[Wannabe MEP]

I would feel bad about wanting Hill to tear his ACL, especially since he's such a class guy...

...but he's a Dookie.

[YFZblu]

First of all, Jason Richardson was not on the Warriors in 07-08, he was with the Charlotte Bobcats who missed the playoffs entirely.

Secondly, giving Jason Richardson the ball and allowing him to create offense off the dribble for the Suns would be a bad idea, considering the best playmaker in the NBA is on the Suns. Steve Nash simplifies the game for Richardson, which is why he's playing so well...Do you seriously believe Jrich would be better at creating his own shot than Nash at creating shots for him? The 2007 season that you're attempting to reference, is a season in which Jrich shot 41% from the field. You're also wrong about Jrich leading the Warriors that season, as Baron Davis was clearly the heart of the 2007 Warriors.

Regarding the 06-07 playoff numbers. Look at the numbers that year, and then look at the numbers for his following playoff appearance, when he was a member of the Suns: Overall, they're better. He's just as deadly in terms of scoring, only with the ball in Nash's hands, Richardson becomes more efficient. Giving Jason Richardson the ball and telling him to go create offense is one of the worst ideas I've heard.

[YFZblu]

While I agree JRich is streaky, trading him for Murphy means we lose JRich's scoring, which is pretty important considering outside of Nash only he is capable of putting together strings of high scoring (20-25pts) games. Murphy will help alleviate our rebounding problems but then we lose our go-to scorer.

Wouldn't you much rather dissolve the rebounding issue and let Nash deal with the scoring allocations? At least that way, you're putting your best player in a position to be successful. Conversely, Nash can't do anything about the Suns weakness right now, which is rebounding. Let's all keep in mind here that Murphy is no slouch in the scoring department, he has recorded seasons of over 14+ and 15+ ppg. As I've said before...With Nash on this team, I'm not worried about the offense.

[Wannabe MEP]

As I've said before...With Nash on this team, I'm not worried about the offense.

Amen

Secondly, giving Jason Richardson the ball and allowing him to create offense off the dribble for the Suns would be a bad idea, considering the best playmaker in the NBA is on the Suns. Steve Nash simplifies the game for Richardson, which is why he's playing so well...Do you seriously believe Jrich would be better at creating his own shot than Nash at creating shots for him? The 2007 season that you're attempting to reference, is a season in which Jrich shot 41% from the field.

Amen

Regarding the 06-07 playoff numbers. Look at the numbers that year, and then look at the numbers for his following playoff appearance, when he was a member of the Suns: Overall, they're better. He's just as deadly in terms of scoring, only with the ball in Nash's hands, Richardson becomes more efficient. Giving Jason Richardson the ball and telling him to go create offense is one of the worst ideas I've heard.

and AMEN

[lilfishi22]

JRich is terrible off the dribble. He's never been a guy who creates his own shots. He's always had his scoring come from plays created by PG's. Watching him trying to create off the dribble is like watching LB trying to create off the dribble. It's head down and to the basket or pull up for an awkward shot. He just doesn't have the handles to take anyone off the dribble consistently.