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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#21 » by willbcocks » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:54 pm

I would trade everyone on the team not named John for Blake Griffin. And not, of course, individually, but all of them together.
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Post#22 » by closg00 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:00 pm

Ernie-baby, who would have thought? If we acquire Gee, me likey a lot, hear that Rico :D

Perhaps another shoe is going to drop, Hamady and Hudson gone and we add Gee and a rebounder?
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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#23 » by LyricalRico » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:07 pm

closg00 wrote:Ernie-baby, who would have thought? If we acquire Gee, me likey a lot, hear that Rico :D


Really? THIS move would get you to say something good about Ernie? I'm pretty "meh" about it. Whether it's Cartier Martin or Alonzo Gee or both, one 6'6 fringe swingman is just as good as another.
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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#24 » by closg00 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:12 pm

Interesting reading from the Spurs perspective, 48 Minutes of Hell is one of the best hoops blog out-there IMO. I guess he didn't fit with the Spurs.
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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#25 » by pineappleheadindc » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:36 pm

nate33 wrote:Okay. Who gets cut?

Here is out depth chart:
Wall, Arenas, Howard, Blatche, McGee
Hinrich, Young, Thornton, Yi, Amstrong
Hudson, Martin, Booker, Seraphin, N'Diaye

Looks like Hudson or Martin has to go - unless they've given up on N'Diaye already.


Yup, good call Nate.

Good luck Hudson (waived). Welcome back Gee (a homonym for our dearly departed Ji).

Alonzo Gee rejoins Wizards, Lester Hudson waived [UPDATED]
By Michael Lee
The Wizards have completed a somewhat startling reunion, as the team has brought back swingman Alonzo Gee, according to multiple league sources. In order to make the move possible, the Wizards waived reserve point guard Lester Hudson
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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#26 » by pineappleheadindc » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:39 pm

.

P.S. Sadly, the way this board has been this season, I predict the first "Amazingly Sucky Alonzo Gee" thread to appear within the next 72 hours.

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(Hooplatta, gonna edit your thread title just a tad to keep it fresh and make this the Alonzo Gee thread.)
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Re: We've got a situation here: Alonzo Gee waived! 

Post#27 » by Dat2U » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:01 pm

closg00 wrote:Interesting reading from the Spurs perspective, 48 Minutes of Hell is one of the best hoops blog out-there IMO. I guess he didn't fit with the Spurs.
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/san-anto ... alonzo-gee



Ha! They say he can't shoot, can't dribble and is undersized.

You know what? That still makes him better than anything we've got at SF right now with Josh Howard out.

Gee outplayed Thornton when he was in DC last year. I'd be very happy if could step in and do more of the same this time around.
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Re: Wiz Sign Alonzo Gee, Pg 2 (WAS: We've got a situation here:) 

Post#28 » by closg00 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:08 pm

Any thoughts on why we made this move? Is it because Flip likes him? Who's minutes will he take?
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Post#29 » by Dat2U » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:11 pm

Props to Ernie too. Every blue moon, Ernie shows a pulse. Glad to know he took a break from sucking down a case of Twinkies make a phone call and get something done to improve the roster.

Now trade Hinrich for a 3rd big and I'll be elated.
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Post#30 » by fishercob » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:25 pm

closg00 wrote:Any thoughts on why we made this move? Is it because Flip likes him? Who's minutes will he take?



Since you asked...

I think Ernie, Flip and our scouts like Gee. That's why they gave him a shot last year. I just think with the ownership change and all the uncertainty (remember, Wall was a pipe dream at the time) that they took a conservative approach -- perhaps too much so -- last year in not wanting to commit a single long term dollar to Gee last year so as to preserve flexibility. They probably also miscalculated interest on him throughout the league.

On minutes, it really depends on opportunities that present themselves going forward. If there's an opportunity to include any combo of Thornton, Young or Hinrich in a deal to help us going forward, then he'll stand to get whomever's minutes.

I do think this is a bit of a signal that Thornton isn't being considered for a long term role -- and that's fine with me.
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Post#31 » by dandridge 10 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:35 pm

I don't understand the recent negativity regarding Thornton. Until three games ago, he was arguably our most consistent player this year. Although he has not played well of late, his poor play seemed to start when he got injured a few games ago. Given his improved conditioning and his good start to the season, I'm not ready to write him off just yet.

Regarding Gee, I'm kind of meh about the signing too. I don't expect him to contribute very much and I have actually been quite pleased with Martin so far this season.
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Post#32 » by closg00 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:40 pm

I'm getting my hopes-up that some kind of trade is going to happen also.
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Post#33 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:58 pm

I guess this means less time for Cartier? I've always liked Cartier (mostly because he looks like Antonio Daniels). It was a good move to cut Lester Hudson instead of Cartier.
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Post#34 » by nate33 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:02 pm

closg00 wrote:I'm getting my hopes-up that some kind of trade is going to happen also.

Why? The Wizards already announced they'd be cutting Hudson. There is no roster limit issue now.
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Post#35 » by closg00 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:51 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:I'm getting my hopes-up that some kind of trade is going to happen also.

Why? The Wizards already announced they'd be cutting Hudson. There is no roster limit issue now.


We aleady have Thornton/Howard/Martin and Martin's minutes are already scant. Now we add Gee, I thought perhaps there might be another move coming involving Thornton expiring.
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Post#36 » by Ruzious » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:56 pm

It's pretty cool that something we talked about actually happened.

Maybe Flip knows the secret to making AlGee a player, because he looked great here last season - even though he was a mediocre college player and not good enough to beat out Bobby Simmons with San Ant.
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Post#37 » by MJG » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:04 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:I don't understand the recent negativity regarding Thornton. Until three games ago, he was arguably our most consistent player this year. Although he has not played well of late, his poor play seemed to start when he got injured a few games ago. Given his improved conditioning and his good start to the season, I'm not ready to write him off just yet.

I think you're letting first impressions color your opinion a bit too strongly here. He had three or four really good games in the first ten days or so of the season, but in the other six or seven, he's been below average at best. Considering his career prior to this season, I don't see any reason we should assume the handful of good games should be more indicative of things to come than the bad ones.
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Post#38 » by TGW » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:12 pm

I have no prob with Gee but don't you guys think he's just another somewhat lesser version of Thornton? I don't know...the both seem to play that same type of brutish game. Not much of a skillset between either player.

I'm with closgoo...I'm hoping for an Al T trade because I don't see the point in having both players.
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Post#39 » by dandridge 10 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:32 pm

MJG wrote:
dandridge 10 wrote:I don't understand the recent negativity regarding Thornton. Until three games ago, he was arguably our most consistent player this year. Although he has not played well of late, his poor play seemed to start when he got injured a few games ago. Given his improved conditioning and his good start to the season, I'm not ready to write him off just yet.

I think you're letting first impressions color your opinion a bit too strongly here. He had three or four really good games in the first ten days or so of the season, but in the other six or seven, he's been below average at best. Considering his career prior to this season, I don't see any reason we should assume the handful of good games should be more indicative of things to come than the bad ones.


Well, I missed three games while in Disney so maybe my view is colored a little. However, I still think his decline coincided with his injury and his good vs below average games are more about evenly split (assuming he did have a bad game all three games I missed). I'm just willing to give him a little more rope, especially since he lost 20 lbs over the overseason and looked so good during preseason and at the beginning of the season. Actually, I think his biggest problem right now is he is trying to drive to the hole too much. Lately, he has been passing up open shots, to drive into the teeth of the defense. If he just takes what the defense gives him, I think he will do much better.
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Post#40 » by WizarDynasty » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:48 pm

Gee is alot better attacking the rim than Thornton. As horrible as Thornton shot is, i still think is better than Gee's unless Gee has magically improved. i would pick Gee over Thornton because Thornton has reached his full potential..especially regarding the mental side of basketball.
Gee would really have to show me that he can hit the three ball and show Gilbert like dedication to shooting three's after practice.
Gee appears to have more coordination and thus the potential for having a more reliable shot. Thornton is limited because he just doesn't have the fine motor coordination to be a consistent shooter. Thornton poor motor coordination shows with his footwork on defense. Gee from all accounts has an explosive first step and is extremely gifted at absorbing contact and finishing. Time will tell but he's an upgrade over hudson.
They say the biggest problem with Gee is that he doesn't have a consistent low defensive stance when playing defense. and the biggest is probably his ability to stay fully alert over an extended period of time. Concentration lapses. So similarities to Thornton..but thornton is on the extreme. i guess Cassel will sniff him out.
Also his handle is still poor has he dribbles the ball in front of him instead to the his side and outside his ankle which limits his ability to change directions while dribbling and i assume he can't dribble well with his left is he can barely dribble with his right.
i also would look at his block shots in D'League to assess his overall potential. he should definitely block at least 1 shot per game against scrubs i the league if he is going to be any kind of defender at the small forward spot.
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