OT: Chilly Axed

[chuckleslove]

Good, Frazier is fine. I don't want a good coach there. And unless the Bears implode (which could still happen), Lovie will be around another year.

Won't matter if the Queens get a good coach until they find a quality QB because it hard to win in today's NFL without one.

Not just their QB, their entire team is old and busted, they have very little quality young depth.

[Newz]

Not just their QB, their entire team is old and busted, they have very little quality young depth.

I like their youth at the skill positions.

Rice, Harvin, AP, Shienananco are all good, young players. If they find a solid QB and patch up their offensive line, they could still be a very good offensive team.

Defensively it seems like all their best players are getting old. They are going to start having big troubles on that side of the ball soon.

[chuckleslove]

Shiancoe will be 31 at the start of next season, not young in my book and I'm not sure they can sign Rice to a new contract, I get the feeling he really wants to test free agency next year and I could see someone else offering him more money to play in a better situation.

I agree on AP and Harvin, but having only a handful of young guys you like shows exactly what their problem is.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Hopefully Frazier has that team stabilized by the time they play Chicago again. If I'm him, I'm telling Bevell to give AP the damn ball 25 times a game minimum and I'm asking the owner for permission to cut Favre so the focus can be put back on the team.

[Newz]

Shiancoe will be 31 at the start of next season, not young in my book and I'm not sure they can sign Rice to a new contract, I get the feeling he really wants to test free agency next year and I could see someone else offering him more money to play in a better situation.

I agree on AP and Harvin, but having only a handful of young guys you like shows exactly what their problem is.

Damn, Shiancoe is already 31?

My mistake.

[chuckleslove]

Hopefully Frazier has that team stabilized by the time they play Chicago again. If I'm him, I'm telling Bevell to give AP the damn ball 25 times a game minimum and I'm asking the owner for permission to cut Favre so the focus can be put back on the team.

I agree, I'm not sure they would have to cut Favre, I think if you bench him in favor of T-Jax he might just retire, then again maybe he sits on the sidelines to collect his millions of dollars I don't know.

[BuckFan25226]

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Did you not see my previous quotes? I said I don't feel bad for Chilly and said what you said. I just disagree with MD's general view of if someone made a ton of money I don't feel bad for them. I can't feel bad for Al Harris getting cut? He busted his ass to come back and was awesome with the ad he gave in the the MJS.[/quote]





In the whole scope of the NFL, once you get a coaching job, you're pretty much set for life financially. I believe the lowest paid coach is somewhere around 1-1.5 million per year? It's a cut throat business, they know that going in. So as a whole, do I feel sorry for them when they get fired? Not really. Even when they get fired, there usually is always a job around league somewhere.

Regarding Al Harris. Did I really feel sorry for him? No, but I truly appreciated what he gave us, I was a huge Al Harris fan. Al Harris, the organization, and most fans knew why he was let go. I wish Al Harris the best in Miami, I hope he tears it up. I'm definitely sad he's gone, and reading his thank you in the JS was extremely classy. As a Packer fan, I am grateful that we had a guy who busted his arse for the Packers every single game during his 7 years here.

Now when it comes to Ellis Hobbs last night, that scared me, and I felt really bad for him at that moment. Watching him lay there like a dead fish is a scary sight. Knowing if he was paralyzed, that could effect him the rest of his life. Now that would make me feel bad for Ellis Hobbs, and his family, that something he loved doing, put him in a wheelchair.

[El Duderino]

Good, Frazier is fine. I don't want a good coach there. And unless the Bears implode (which could still happen), Lovie will be around another year.

Won't matter if the Queens get a good coach until they find a quality QB because it hard to win in today's NFL without one.

Not just their QB, their entire team is old and busted, they have very little quality young depth.

That can be rectified by two good drafts, finding a quality long term solution at QB though is the whole battle for NFL franchises. Look at Tampa, landing Freeman and two good drafts has turned around their team. The Rams have a future soley because they drafted Bradford. The Lions have talent, but they won't go anywhere if Stafford can't stay healthy.

Put Rodgers on Minnesota and have us with say only having Flynn, i'd rather be in the Vikings place.

[chuckleslove]

That can be rectified by two good drafts, finding a quality long term solution at QB though is the whole battle for NFL franchises. Look at Tampa, landing Freeman and two good drafts has turned around their team. The Rams have a future soley because they drafted Bradford. The Lions have talent, but they won't go anywhere if Stafford can't stay healthy.

Put Rodgers on Minnesota and have us with say only having Flynn, i'd rather be in the Vikings place.

No doubt, Chilly was their GM and I don't know who they are going to bring in to try and right the ship, I just think they are destined for a multiple year rebuild.

Obviously if they get a competent GM they could find themselves back on their feet quicker than that but I am glad we aren't in their position because its a sinking ship that has a long way to go.

[chuckleslove]

Don't worry about Chilly, he already found a new job:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHiHeiRHHlY[/youtube]

[El Duderino]

That can be rectified by two good drafts, finding a quality long term solution at QB though is the whole battle for NFL franchises. Look at Tampa, landing Freeman and two good drafts has turned around their team. The Rams have a future soley because they drafted Bradford. The Lions have talent, but they won't go anywhere if Stafford can't stay healthy.

Put Rodgers on Minnesota and have us with say only having Flynn, i'd rather be in the Vikings place.

No doubt, Chilly was their GM and I don't know who they are going to bring in to try and right the ship, I just think they are destined for a multiple year rebuild.

Obviously if they get a competent GM they could find themselves back on their feet quicker than that but I am glad we aren't in their position because its a sinking ship that has a long way to go.

It could be a 2-3 year rebuild or a very long one depending on how long it takes them to find a quality QB.

Sometimes a team just needs to get lucky, look at Ted. It was a brilliant decision by him to pick Rodgers when Aaron slipped so farther than expected, but he did catch a break that another team didn't grab Rodgers before the 24th pick. Who knows what position the Packers would be in if Rodgers was on another team.

It will be interesting to see what Minnesota does at QB. Will they use a 1st or 2nd round pick on a young QB or try to bring in a veteran? Either way they go at QB, the lines on both sides of the ball needs to be addressed, especially their OL. As bad as Favre was this year, their lines were just as big of a problem.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Mike "The Executioner" McCarthy strikes again!

[bigkurty]

Getting fired is just a fact of life for almost everyone at some point usually if you strive to achieve big things in a corporate world where you have a boss. You either will get fired for under performing, to set an example to others, for growing tired of your job (not feeling challenged anymore) or colleagues and developing a bad attitude over time, for a company having to downsize and looking to get rid of the workers they perceive to be their worst performers, to change the culture of a department or work situation, etc. Whether he did a bad job or was put into a bad situation where it was hard to achieve is hard to say. Either way,Chilly will get paid until 2013 and no longer has to deal with that D Line playing like ass this year and that prima donna Favre. I am sure it hurts him now to know he failed and just couldn't pull it all together and to hear all the criticism but he will land on his feet and get another job and in a few years probably think it was a blessing in disguise.

On a personal note, I have been fired exactly one time in my life. It was one of the best things to ever happen to me in my professional career. I fully believe I am 10x further ahead professionally now then if I stayed at that job. Whew, (wiping my brow) thank god that happened.