What will it take for Bogans to be benched?

Fastbrk4brkfast · Post #21 » by **Fastbrk4brkfast** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:47 am

Bogans blew a gasket at Thibs when he got pulled early in the first quarter. Result? He got to throw up all the bricks he wanted in the third. Brutal.

Korver's the guy imo, but if even if it were Brewer put in the starting spot I don't think the Bulls would be digging their way out of so many bad quarters.

Rerisen · Post #22 » by **Rerisen** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:52 am

Fastbrk4brkfast wrote:Bogans blew a gasket at Thibs when he got pulled early in the first quarter.

I think he was in foul trouble, not much reason to bitch. Kobe was using and abusing him anyway.

cowraiser · Post #23 » by **cowraiser** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:52 am

Hopefully he breaks out and puts up 10 ppg 2 3s per game and the Bulls will have no need to bench him.

M_1 · Post #24 » by **M_1** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:55 am

Rerisen wrote:
Fastbrk4brkfast wrote:Bogans blew a gasket at Thibs when he got pulled early in the first quarter.

I think he was in foul trouble, not much reason to bitch. Kobe was using and abusing him anyway.

Just like everyone else? C´mon Bogans has to get benched but he didn´t play worse D on Kobe than Brewer did.

Bowly · Post #25 » by **Bowly** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:11 am

boogydown wrote:
Bowly wrote:Is Jerry Stackhouse worth pursuing?

Just about as much as Larry Hughes is.

Guess thats a big NO then? Hehehe

skoolboy180 · Post #26 » by **skoolboy180** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:25 pm

His only job on offense is to shoot threes. Everyone has bad nights but his silly ass wasn't even close. He should play spot minutes, it's really that simple.

Ctownbulls · Post #27 » by **Ctownbulls** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:51 pm

skoolboy180 wrote:His only job on offense is to shoot threes. Everyone has bad nights but his silly ass wasn't even close. He should play spot minutes, it's really that simple.

It was clear that it got to the point where Rose completely stopped trusting him. In the 3rd quarter after that sequence where Bogans missed 2 wide open 3's and Rose finally knocked it down, Rose forced up a terrible shot as opposed to making the easy pass to Bogans in the corner. I don't blame him.

jax98 · Post #28 » by **jax98** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:03 pm

It's time to make the switch.

Bogans is now shooting 29% from downtown, so it'd make better sense for someone like Brewer to get in there and try to establish a running game. If Bogans was nailing his shots at a 35-37% clip, he would still be fair game as a starter. But he isn't, so we might as well see Brewer come in and use his athleticism.

JordansBulls · Post #29 » by **JordansBulls** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:37 pm

Rerisen wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:A better SG being available.

There's one on the bench.

Yes but if you start him then you have no one off the bench to score.

Post #30 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:43 pm

JB is right. Bogans starts so that he have acoring off the bench.

If we play out top 5 guys, then who plays when they need a rest? We'll be blown out worse than we are now at times

The other players know why Bogans is starting

MissileMike · Post #31 » by **MissileMike** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:03 pm

Bogans has two jobs:

Defend and Knock down open 3s.

He is barely average with his defense, lacking the speed and athleticism to be any better,
And he isn't making his 3s.

I'd say it's time to start Brewer or maybe even CJ.

Ctownbulls · Post #32 » by **Ctownbulls** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:04 pm

MissileMike wrote:Bogans has two jobs:

Defend and Knock down open 3s.

He is barely average with his defense, lacking the speed and athleticism to be any better,
And he isn't making his 3s.

I'd say it's time to start Brewer or maybe even CJ.

SMH. Is that a joke. CJ is horrid. He is a huge, huge problem as well.

MissileMike · Post #33 » by **MissileMike** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:06 pm

Ctownbulls wrote:
MissileMike wrote:Bogans has two jobs:

Defend and Knock down open 3s.

He is barely average with his defense, lacking the speed and athleticism to be any better,
And he isn't making his 3s.

I'd say it's time to start Brewer or maybe even CJ.

SMH. Is that a joke. CJ is horrid. He is a huge, huge problem as well.

Not as bad as you think, lately, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Take a look at 82games.com for CJ and be prepared to be surprised.

Ctownbulls · Post #34 » by **Ctownbulls** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:11 pm

I don't need to look at 82games.com. CJ is terrible, he does not pass the eye test. He makes horrendous decisions with the ball and he takes bad shots.

I'd assume a lot of his +/- numbers on 82 games are inflated due to the hot game the bench had against SA in the 2nd quarter and the fact that he has been on the floor watching Rose do his thang in the 4th in recent games.

MissileMike · Post #35 » by **MissileMike** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:22 pm

You'd rather see Bogans starting over Watson at the 2, then. I'd rather see Watson.

Can you agree on Brewer then, w/o calling my post a joke, Mr. Crankypants?

Chi town · Post #36 » by **Chi town** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:23 pm

I would gladly take Watson over Bogans at SG.

chibull17 · Post #37 » by **chibull17** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:41 pm

Bogans & Brewer both are pathetic and awful...
I can't believe $$$ wated to sign these two D-League Flops! :evil:

I still wish we would try to land Rudy or Afflalo...

The Big Dog · Post #38 » by **The Big Dog** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:48 pm

We can't start Watson because we need him off the bench for Rose since they're our only two ball-handlers.

Brewer should play more, but I hate Korver getting too many minutes at the 2, Shannon Brown ran him ragged last night. Teams go straight at him. We should play him more at his natural position of SF whenever it's apparent that Luol "5-13" Deng has checked out of the game.

Ralphb07 · Post #39 » by **Ralphb07** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:54 pm

I don't see Thibodeau making the switch to be honest. I think he likes having the extra boost off the bench in Korver and Brewer and what we see now is what we're going to get. I just hope when Boozer comes back having Bogans play those 14 minutes get unnoticed because of the great play of the other starting four.

I don't agree with Bogans starting but I can understand Thibs thinking. What we really need is to get a better upgrade to Bogans. I'd love to add a Marcus Thornton here or any upgrade to Bogans.

The Big Dog · Post #40 » by **The Big Dog** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:56 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:I don't see Thibodeau making the switch to be honest. I think he likes having the extra boost off the bench in Korver and Brewer and what we see now is what we're going to get. I just hope when Boozer comes back having Bogans play those 14 minutes get unnoticed because of the great play of the other starting four.

I don't agree with Bogans starting but I can understand Thibs thinking. What we really need is to get a better upgrade to Bogans. I'd love to add a Marcus Thornton here or any upgrade to Bogans.

Yeah with the addition of Jarret Jack and Belineli, we should look in that direction.