One would assume that we are in win-now mode after signing Joe to the max. Obviously, we're not playing like it, but if we're going to sign Joe and offer Horford an extension, our GM likes our core. So what do we need?
-Playmaking PG and/or defensive PG
-Perimeter D in general
-Consistent wing play
-A good backup C who can play D and get boards while allowing Horford to play some PF in Josh's relief
-Anything else?
It looks like our only pieces are Jamal Crawford, Bibby, Teague, Marvin, Mo Evans, and I guess Thomas and Powell. What (realistically) could we get for those players? Billups? Udrih? Any ideas?
How can the Hawks improve?
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How can the Hawks improve?
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Re: How can the Hawks improve?
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Re: How can the Hawks improve?
The team is weak minded to go with what seems like poor chemistry. I dont see how you can truly improve this team without blowing it up to a certain degree. All the realistic trades will improve our record but wouldnt help us enough come playoff time.
I think we need to stop with crazy trade ideas and let this play out.
I think we need to stop with crazy trade ideas and let this play out.
Is it to much to ask for a team that plays hard and cares? Seems so.
Re: How can the Hawks improve?
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Re: How can the Hawks improve?
Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.
Due to Atlanta and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Atlanta and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Trade ID #5744167
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Atlanta Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.4 ppg, -5.7 rpg, and -0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
13.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 32.2 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 C from Brazil (Foreign)
12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 18.6 minutes
Marvin Williams
6-8 SF from North Carolina
9.0 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes
Mike Bibby
6-2 PG from Arizona
8.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 4.0 apg in 28.8 minutes
Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +1.4 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 18.6 minutes
Marvin Williams
6-8 SF from North Carolina
9.0 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes
Mike Bibby
6-2 PG from Arizona
8.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 4.0 apg in 28.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
13.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 32.2 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 C from Brazil (Foreign)
12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.2 minutes
Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/#ixzz16EjcvPhk
Congratulations on a successful trade.
Due to Atlanta and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Atlanta and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Trade ID #5744167
Every trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario.
Try Another Trade or visit our Trade Forum.
Atlanta Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.4 ppg, -5.7 rpg, and -0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
13.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 32.2 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 C from Brazil (Foreign)
12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 18.6 minutes
Marvin Williams
6-8 SF from North Carolina
9.0 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes
Mike Bibby
6-2 PG from Arizona
8.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 4.0 apg in 28.8 minutes
Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +1.4 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 18.6 minutes
Marvin Williams
6-8 SF from North Carolina
9.0 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes
Mike Bibby
6-2 PG from Arizona
8.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 4.0 apg in 28.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
13.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 32.2 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 C from Brazil (Foreign)
12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.2 minutes
Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/#ixzz16EjcvPhk
Re: How can the Hawks improve?
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Re: How can the Hawks improve?
geeman wrote:Incoming Players
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
13.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 32.2 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 C from Brazil (Foreign)
12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 18.6 minutes
Marvin Williams
6-8 SF from North Carolina
9.0 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes
Mike Bibby
6-2 PG from Arizona
8.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 4.0 apg in 28.8 minutes
But it will cost Luxury Tax next year...

unless Nene use it's ETO, but we would only have Billups left.
Meanwhile, said we let Crawford walk next summer, it doesn't change so much to let Nene or Crawford walk. We would end up with Billups instead of Bibby and Marvin.
And at least, we would have had some months to see what happen with a C and a better PG.
Re: How can the Hawks improve?
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Re: How can the Hawks improve?
Billups could also be bought out next year as only 3.7M is guaranteed. I only point that out in case the experiment fails.
Going to donkey punch a leprechaun!