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Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant"

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Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#1 » by Kalidogg24 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:21 am

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, who again faces former employer Miami on Wednesday night, called Phil Jackson "ignorant" for hypothesizing that the Heat soon could change coaches if the ultra-talented Heat don't shake their sluggish start.

Jackson drew attention -- and some ire -- after discussing the fallout to the Heat's 8-6 start under coach Erik Spoelstra during an interview Tuesday with ESPN 1000 in Chicago.

"That record, I think, says a lot about coming together with some real talented guys, and not having a base," the Lakers coach said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show."

Jackson went on to say, "The scenario that sits kind of behind the scene, is that eventually these guys that were recruited -- [Chris] Bosh and [LeBron] James -- by [team president] Pat Riley and Micky Arison, the owner, are going to come in and say, 'We feel you [Riley] can do a better job coaching the team. We came here on the hopes that this would work,' and whatever, I don't know," Jackson said. "That's kind of my take on it, is that eventually if things don't straighten out here soon, it could be the Van Gundy thing all over again."

Jackson's direct analogy to the events that precipitated Van Gundy's departure in Miami during the 2005-06 season particularly irritated the Magic's coach.

"Phil has no idea what the Van Gundy situation was because, even though he coaches in our league, he certainly had no insight or knowledge of that," Van Gundy said Wednesday. "So an analogy he'd make to my situation would be totally useless because he doesn't have any clue what the situation was in that case."

Van Gundy resigned in December 2005 after the Heat went 11-10 through the early stretch of their season. Although he cited personal reasons for resigning, many observers maintain that Van Gundy was forced out by Riley. In the five years since his departure, Van Gundy has insisted repeatedly that the prevailing views of his exit are patently false -- an opinion he reiterated in the wake of Jackson's comments.

"To second-guess another coach and comment on a situation he knows nothing about -- it's inappropriate. And it's also ignorant," Van Gundy said. "I don't mean that commenting on Phil's intelligence. He's obviously a very smart guy. I mean it as ignorant [in that] he doesn't know what that situation was and he doesn't know what the situation is now.

"I don't think, unless their relationship has changed drastically that [Jackson] and Pat talk on a regular basis. So I doubt he would have any information whatsoever on what's going on in Miami."

Asked about Jackson's assessment of the situation in Miami, Spoelstra had a considerably more light-hearted reply.

"My coaching staff was giving me some grief about it, they got a good chuckle out of it," Spoelstra said. "Everybody has had something to say about us, I can't expect that I would be excluded from that. I'm sure people are saying some stuff about me out there, other than him, too."

Heat guard Dwyane Wade was taken aback by Jackson's comments, though he conceded that the 11-time NBA champion has earned a certain license to speak candidly.

"The only thing surprising about it is a coach saying it about another coach," Wade said. "I respect someone else to say it but not another coach. It is unfortunate but I guess Coach Jackson had earned the right to say what he wants so he continues to exercise that right."


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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#2 » by Plastered » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:30 am

read this earlier today, first thought is that this is just phil being phil.... whether its the referees or the players, he will find some way to distract other teams.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#3 » by dockingsched » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:45 am

to clarify, he called him ignorant of the circumstances that lead to SVG stepping down as miami head coach.

SVG lets things get to him too easily. spoelstra's reaction was good, basically laugh it off.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#4 » by crazyeights » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:20 am

I don't see how what PJ said is different from what everyone's else thinks. From the outside, it's a pretty similar situation, and he knows he's just speculating.

Another case of beat writers building something up.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#5 » by Jase » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:02 am

SVG sure did get upset over this. He took major offense over something that wasn't nearly this big of a deal. Jackson likes to say things that are off the wall, offensive or inaccurate. SVG should probably spend more time learning how to get his team to get over their seemingly-eternal hump and less time worrying about what our coach is saying.
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Post#6 » by laduane1 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:08 am

Just not going to please all. Todays media is all over the place, say one little thing and it is on You Tube or boards all over the place. SVG is th Ignorant one. He wishes he had what Phil has had for years.
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Post#7 » by magicfan9109 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:49 am

SVG is honest and people like to illicit these type of responses from him. Really no big deal though. No hard feeling between these two.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#8 » by Imadogg » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:39 am

Phil uncovered some bad memories for SVG.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#9 » by LA Forever » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:38 am

How many coaches/players will continue to fall for Phil's patented mind games?
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Post#10 » by Nett » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:50 pm

PJ and his mind games.
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#11 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:48 pm

SVG is too sensitive. I am sure Phil is talking about the similarity of PR stepping in when the team is not doing well when it is expected to do well and not about the inside circumstances as to why SVG left the Heat (which btw Mr Van Gundy, nobody is buying "the family issues" excuse).
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Re: Stan Van Gundy Calls Phil "Ignorant" 

Post#12 » by Wavy Q » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:02 am

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